Makes me consider putting in an Easter Egg--a hidden interior with a bunch of NPCs representing the devs, or possibly their RP characters. But, um, that would be a ton of NPCs...
I want to say this should be a little more disguised so it's not too meta and unfitting. For instance the labor of love thing I couldn't see jiving with the mural being constructed in OE (though we could mention that bureaucracy and lack of "reviews" is what's slowing the mural down from being put up officially or giving funding).
Even in a quest meant to be meta, too much fourth-wall breaking is cringey--that Svakis N'Gasta book was well concealed considering it's in a different language/in cypher, and people still had issues with it.
Maybe add some weird requirement for the quest to start it? Like in EltonBrand quest? You have to be a Vampire that has Dwemer Puzzle Box in his/her inventory.
This quests needs to both work within the game world and within the meta commentary. If an idea sacrifices the latter for the former, then that idea is quite frankly bad.
OK, what about disguising it as Blades (or Imperial Legion) scout mission? In original game there is removed Darius' quest about Anumidium. It could be bonus quest like this. I guess even Mages Guild could work with some changes.
/offtopic What's the deal with Blades anyway? Are there any hidden members in Tamriel Rebuilt? Hidden, but you can guess (an otherwise blank commoner that has surprising amount of interesting books/ciphered book hidden or something like that) that they're spies? Hidden to Caius, but for some reason not hidden for Playing Character?
It's a good way to get the meta out of the way and build a monument (both in and out of game). It obviously shouldn't be blatantly in-your-face, but characters such as Harald the Swift Oak or a strange pile of sload soap in the corner are good enough winks and nudges that people in the know will understand them.
That is not the intention of the quest. It's supposed to be about the people who are building a mural of Tamriel and their plights.
Meta commentary is supposed to be rich and thick here, but at no point should the NPCs be about to *geddit? wink wink nudge nudge* at the player. I think we are all on the same page here and just quibbling with miscommunication.
If player complains at any point during quest or suggests completing the map until replacement tiles can be found player is immediately attacked by quest giver. All other NPCs begin running randomly within interior - rotating objects and leaving trails of documents and documents documenting those documents, etc.
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Makes me consider putting in
Makes me consider putting in an Easter Egg--a hidden interior with a bunch of NPCs representing the devs, or possibly their RP characters. But, um, that would be a ton of NPCs...
I want to say this should be a little more disguised so it's not too meta and unfitting. For instance the labor of love thing I couldn't see jiving with the mural being constructed in OE (though we could mention that bureaucracy and lack of "reviews" is what's slowing the mural down from being put up officially or giving funding).
i mean....the quest is called
i mean....the quest is called Tamriel Rebuilt for gods sake
if everyone gets their meta commentary out of their system here it won't spill out into other quests
Even in a quest meant to be
Even in a quest meant to be meta, too much fourth-wall breaking is cringey--that Svakis N'Gasta book was well concealed considering it's in a different language/in cypher, and people still had issues with it.
Maybe add some weird
Maybe add some weird requirement for the quest to start it? Like in EltonBrand quest? You have to be a Vampire that has Dwemer Puzzle Box in his/her inventory.
That's trying too hard. This
That's trying too hard.
This quests needs to both work within the game world and within the meta commentary. If an idea sacrifices the latter for the former, then that idea is quite frankly bad.
OK, what about disguising it
OK, what about disguising it as Blades (or Imperial Legion) scout mission? In original game there is removed Darius' quest about Anumidium. It could be bonus quest like this. I guess even Mages Guild could work with some changes.
/offtopic What's the deal with Blades anyway? Are there any hidden members in Tamriel Rebuilt? Hidden, but you can guess (an otherwise blank commoner that has surprising amount of interesting books/ciphered book hidden or something like that) that they're spies? Hidden to Caius, but for some reason not hidden for Playing Character?
It's a good way to get the
It's a good way to get the meta out of the way and build a monument (both in and out of game). It obviously shouldn't be blatantly in-your-face, but characters such as Harald the Swift Oak or a strange pile of sload soap in the corner are good enough winks and nudges that people in the know will understand them.
Obvious nudges I don't mind,
Obvious nudges I don't mind, it's more NPCs saying things that make no sense in-world at all.
That is not the intention of
That is not the intention of the quest. It's supposed to be about the people who are building a mural of Tamriel and their plights.
Meta commentary is supposed to be rich and thick here, but at no point should the NPCs be about to *geddit? wink wink nudge nudge* at the player. I think we are all on the same page here and just quibbling with miscommunication.
Very likely.
Very likely.
If you complain at any point
If player complains at any point during quest or suggests completing the map until replacement tiles can be found player is immediately attacked by quest giver. All other NPCs begin running randomly within interior - rotating objects and leaving trails of documents and documents documenting those documents, etc.
nah that seems a bit too
nah that seems a bit too wacky
Don't forget addressing the
Don't forget addressing the PC as 'Lady Nerevarine' if the conditions apply!