Missing TR Data of Various Types

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Hey all,

So, I decided to fire up Morrowind again and install (among many others) this excellent mod. However, looking in my Warning.txt, I noticed that a lot of TR data is missing, everything from level lists to scripts to (I think) Region IDs. This hasn't caused any stability problems in my game so far (although I haven't gotten very far, either, much less to continental Morrowind), but as someone with plenty of experience modding Gamebryo games, it makes me a little bit nervous. Now, I have installed Tamriel Rebuilt - Tamriel Rebuilt 16.12, Tamriel Rebuilt - Patch for TR 16.12, Tamriel_Data - Tamriel_Data (HD), and Tamriel Rebuilt - TRMusic, put the proper BSA references into my Morrowind.ini, and run mlox/Wrye Mash, so I'm a little bit confused. I've attached Warnings.txt and Morrowind.ini, and I was hoping someone could point out what I am doing wrong.

On a different, less important note, I also have the errors:

Faction "FactionSheog" not found for dialogue type Voice
Info "EMPTY"
Global variable "FSheog_g_J00Greet" not found for dialogue type Voice
Info "EMPTY"

I think these are from the Immersive Madness mod, but I don't know why these are missing. I've uninstalled/reinstalled the mod, with no luck. Does anyone have any ideas?

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Update mlox just in case; I'm told older versions don't always work properly.

Do you run any other mods that depend on Tamriel Rebuilt? Many of those errors look like they are related to the recent data ID change we did to work with Tamriel_Data, but 16.12 should not be running those errors by itself.

 

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My mlox was downloaded yesterday, so I doubt that's a problem.

There are a number of mods with old TR dependency, yes; I  changed their dependencies manually with Wrye Mash, from TR_Data.esm to Tamriel_Data.esm and TR_map1/2.esm to TR_Mainland.esm. I figured since it was still the same mod, just a later version, the names of items and so on would have satyed the same, so it wouldn't be an issue. Do you think it will be an issue?

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You'll also need to run the patcher on those dependant mods, as many of the item IDs got changed with Tamriel_Data. That's probably why so many things are complaining about not finding the right file.

The patcher comes with the Tamriel_Data download and instructions for using it can be found on the Nexus mirror: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/44537/?t The Translations.txt the patcher uses should come bundled with the Tamriel Rebuilt download itself.

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I'll disagree with Kevaar a bit - it's not also necessary, it is the only necessary step. Do not change masters to Tamriel_Data with Wrye Mash, use the filepatcher. It changes the masters and updates the IDs.

You are using an Graphic Herbalism for TR. This is outdated and unmaintained. Please use the one for Tamriel_Data.

A lot of other problems (at least the region ones) seem to come from the fact that Tamriel_Data loads after TR_Mainland, not the other way around. Please check that their dates and load order are correct.

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Atrayonis

I'll disagree with Kevaar a bit - it's not also necessary, it is the only necessary step. Do not change masters to Tamriel_Data with Wrye Mash, use the filepatcher. It changes the masters and updates the IDs.

Very well, although the More Barter Gold and Ships of the Imperial Navy TR patches don't seem to be translatable -- they altered TR_Data, but they still refer to TR_Map1/2.esm, rather than TR_Mainland, after translation. Are those lost causes, or can I just make the change manually?

Atrayonis

You are using an Graphic Herbalism for TR. This is outdated and unmaintained. Please use the one for Tamriel_Data.

Done. Thank you.

Atrayonis

A lot of other problems (at least the region ones) seem to come from the fact that Tamriel_Data loads after TR_Mainland, not the other way around. Please check that their dates and load order are correct.

As far as I can tell, Tamriel_Data does load after TR_Mainland, and yet I'm still getting the errors (Warnings attached, along with the .ini). I've checked this through Wrye Mash and mlox, and they both display that load order. Did you mean the other way around? I've tried to make the change using NMM (which failed, for some reason the arrows are grayed out when it comes to moving one of those two mods above/beneath one another), as well as through editing the date/time through Wrye Mash (which I understand should change the order?) and by tweaking the Morrowind.ini [Game Files] section so that they load in a different order, but with no effect. Any idea of what I'm doing wrong? Currently, Tamriel_Data.esm loads before TR_Mainland.esm.

On a different note, there are a lot of "One of the files that "ModXXX" is dependent on has changed since the last save. This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message but not necessarily fix any errors." errors. Is it alright to save the mods so as to clear these errors? These messages just annoy me a bit.

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On a different note, there are a lot of "One of the files that "ModXXX" is dependent on has changed since the last save. This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message but not necessarily fix any errors." errors. Is it alright to save the mods so as to clear these errors? These messages just annoy me a bit.

Update the masters with Wrye Mash instead, that's cleaner.

Very well, although the More Barter Gold and Ships of the Imperial Navy TR patches don't seem to be translatable -- they altered TR_Data, but they still refer to TR_Map1/2.esm, rather than TR_Mainland, after translation. Are those lost causes, or can I just make the change manually

I don't know what these do. I'd assume they are lost causes and should be remade. You might want to try http://mw.modhistory.com/download-44-12069, but no guarantees.

 Unable to locate creature 'TR_LC_moth_all_lev+0' in Leveled Creature 'TR_r_Helnim_Fields_land+0'.

You are getting these and other errors because one of the other plugins you are loading is trying to change or use TR's old levelled lists. Unfortunately, I don't know which one. Maybe it's MCA still.

 Item "T_Mw_Random_FlorCrocusPetal" not found on "T_Mw_FloraDP_SaltCroc01". Item "T_IngFlor_Weepveil_01" not found on "T_Mw_FloraTV_Weepveil01". Item "T_IngFlor_Weepveil_01" not found on "T_Mw_FloraTV_Weepveil02". Item "T_IngFlor_Weepveil_01" not found on "T_Mw_FloraTV_Weepveil03". Item "T_Mw_Random_FlorTempleDome" not found on "T_Mw_Flora_TempleDom02". Item "T_Mw_Random_FlorTempleDome" not found on "T_Mw_Flora_TempleDom01".

You are using Graphic Herbalism for Tamriel_Data v04 while having Tamriel_Data v03 installed. This doesn't work, it has additional flora. Either downgrade Graphic Herbalism for Tamriel_Data or update Tamriel_Data.

 

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Okay, thank you. I hadn't realized that there was a new version of Tamriel_Data, apparently it was released the day after I downloaded it. At this point the only issue that persists is the "Unable to locate creature 'TR_LC_moth_all_lev+0' in Leveled Creature R_r_Helnim_Fields_land+0'." -type errors, but since it doesn't seem to be affecting stability, I'm willing to let it pass. Thank you.

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