[Lady Nerevar]

check the Everything You Need to Know About Hammerfell Lore thread in the lore forum, it has quite a bit of info on Diagna.
some possible jumping off points:
-his participation in the [already depicted] 27 skake-folk slaughter
-his royal name, Oshiru, means Tiger in yoku
-he is the King in the enantiamorph, a ruling force. more politician than warrior (though he did participate in some battles in his youth)

[Sload]

He's also the king depicted in this page of the Redguard comic.

Note that this was a twelve years ago before the Yoku were developed at all so you can ignore it from that. I used it as a point to leap from when thinking of diagna - I always imagined him beareded and his headdress to be a keffiyeh with a crown-like agal, which is hinted at in that picture.

Other than that he is the ideal redguard depiction of a leader. He's considered the "founder" of the Crowns and a very noble figure.

[Myzel]

Thanks for the help. I find is useful to know how you guys imagine this king.

Here's what I have on Tu'Whacca:

[Gez]

Excellent work.

[Myzel]

Thanks. Updated the Tu'Whacca image with some more filler.

[Morden]

Very nice work. Thanks again.

[Adanorcil]

Hey there, Myzel. Great work again on the fresco. I like how you managed to put Tu'whacca's boat in there. I would have liked it even more if it had the feet that Lutemoth originally put on it, but I still love it already.

Also, I wanted to give you a little heads up. First of all, I was bored a while ago, so I did a quick Photoshop coloring of another of your frescoes, this one being Ruptga And His Many Beloved Children. A little while afterwards, I showed your work to Michael Kirkbride (the man himself), which I hope you don't mind. He described it as "So official it isn't funny anymore."

In other words: you've got the mojo.

[Myzel]

Michael Kirkbride? He's a designer for TES games, right? He said that about my frescoes? Cool! But of course, a part of the design comes from Lute.
Do you know MK personally or something?

[gro-Dhal]

Kirkbride is the guy who comes up with most of the wacky stuff in the games. I don't know if he was the first to write about the Yokudan gods but he was almost certainly the one who came up with the stories and descriptions your frescoes are based upon. So it's high praise indeed.

[Adanorcil]

Michael Kirkbride is the man who was the primary cause of Morrowind not sucking. He is also the man who gave shape to most of what we know of the Redguards (that was not in Daggerfall, which can safely be ignored).

In other words: He's the guy who invented the kind of voodoo rock 'n' roll that TR will want to capture. So yeah, it's high praise, I guess.

[immortal_pigs]

When/where did he do that?
The only place I've heard about the Yokuda and all there Lore is here on TR, primarily from Sload.

I thought he made most of it up.

[Bloodthirsty Crustacean]

I think Ada means the contributions of Redguard, the TES:Adventures game, to our understanding of the Redguard lore, and probably the 'feel' we aim for (tho', having never played it, I couldn't say for sure).

But, yes, pretty much all(?) of the TR stuff is original, thanks to Sload. I think Redguard just forms the foundations. But I'm no Hammerfell expert.

[Gnomey]

For the most part, I think Sload expanded on Lore that was already there, like Diagna, the first Redguard King of Hammerfell, and the 27 snake-folk slaughter which were both mentioned elsewhere. There's already quite a lot of Lore, though, especially after the writing of Vivec's Sword-Meeting with Cyrus the Restless.

[Sload]

RA-HERAKHTY

[hotclubfreak]

i do not specialie make this for Tamriel Rebuilt but mabye
someone do a idea up. oops i can't upload the picture i wil set the picture later.[img]
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[gro-Dhal]

When you do, make your own thread rather than posting it on someone else's.

[Myzel]

Hey everyone. This here is an attempt to image emperor Oshiru, a.k.a. Diagna. Not sure what you can use it for; maybe just a point of reference. Let me know what you think.

PS: Don't look at the staff. It's a last minute thing since I wanted to put it up and he still needed something in his hand. I'll see if I can change it when I come up with something better.

[Gez]

Very nice. His gaze is perfect, excellent facial expression; stern, resolute, kingly.

I see lion and griffon symbols on his clothing.

[Myzel]

Thanks Gez. The symbols are actually meant to represent tigers, as a reference to his regal name. There wasn't much room for stripes.

[Gez]

The one to the right, on his belt/skirt/kilt thing has a head that looks like a bird's head to me, with a beak.

[Myzel]

Hmm, little slip of the pen I suppose. Sorry for the confusion.

[RelinQ]

Your a very talented concept artist.

I'll tell you what, In a few days Im going to put up some odd photos of buildings and sculptures I took when I was on holiday. when Ive uploaded them, I'll pm you, I think you could do wonders with them, probably more than I could anyway.

keep up the work

[Myzel]

Another fresco. Lute's concept sketches of Zeht were quite easy to make into frescoes. Maybe I'll do another one using the other pose.

[Gez]

Great as alway. I can't wait to see them turned into textures!

[Adanorcil]

Brilliant. I like how his staff blends into the roots as well.

[Myzel]

Thanks. I wasn't sure what to do with the staff, so I'm glad it turned out well.


I had these just lying around, so I inked them for scanning:

Some more ruined stuff:



A few pillar concepts:

[NexUmMonastica]

good architecture concepts are hard to find: I love those! especial where yuo detailed weathering and erosion.

[Túrelio]

I like the second pillar concept quite a bit, although maybe something different at the top, instead of going from round to square, although keep the volute-like capitol at the very top, looks good imo.

[Myzel]

Thanks for the comments.
Going from round to square is something I saw in persian columns I think. The square part could be replaced with a round one, but then the square-ish capital would stick out rather sudden. Maybe it can be solved by adding a similar square part near the bottom, so as to give the impression that the round parts sort of surround a square 'core'. Not sure how that would look though.

[Túrelio]

Yea that sounds like a good idea.

[NexUmMonastica]

Myzel:

[Myzel]

You lost me at 'poly'.

[NexUmMonastica]

eh? eh? lots of open options for that middle sector

[Myzel]

Hmm, I suppose that's possible. Though I think it will look kinda weird to see such a smooth transfer on a capital. Then it wouldn't really look like a capital anymore.

I think the problem is that the square part looks a little 'off', isolated up there at the top. I think it's something of a symmetrical problem.

[NexUmMonastica]

Its because i spent 20 seconds making it. The distortion you see is caused by smoothing groups pulled around a corner. Causes bad shadows.

A Gothic capital


A Moorish capital


"Square meets Round" in the majority middle-eastern architecture. Just as long as artists don't mix too much eastern/western architecture Its going to look great.

[Myzel]

Something new.



The scan looks a bit stretched on this one. Not sure why. It looks better on paper. :/
Anyway, it's Leki and it turned out a lot different than I expected. It almost has a hippie feel to it, with all the curls. Maybe because I was listening to Jefferson Airplane when i drew it.
I like it though, so I hope you do too.

[gro-Dhal]

[Gez]

[Morden]

I'm sure they will be. They're laid out so well that it's really easy to get them in the game. TR will get there sooner or later.

[Myzel]

Thanks guys. About Oshiru, I guess it can be made into a painting if you find someone with photoshop skills. Mine are still a little... nonexistent.