4-17-Hla

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Is dirt grass bad too? Just in case if should replace it too.
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I think dirt_grass is okay, since it's closer to brown than GL's pale green.
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I'll ask another question: what do you think about the farms?
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The plantation in cell -7,-16? I think they are good; no reason to axe them.
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Yesterday I tried to ask something to TF on IRC,but he wasn't online. Am I allowed to use com plates and silver utensils (fork, knife and spoon) in a dunmer interior and thus using it also in an exterior?
Edit: I'll find a way to make it more mountainous.
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Post by Thrignar Fraxix »

silverware is not allowed in dunmer interiors, and com things are only allowed when there is no alternative. Use wooden utensils.

Also, just ask a question whether I am there or not. I'll get back to you. Plus if you say my name my window flashes and I am more likely to notice I need to say something.
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Hi, this is just a notice that you will soon be within a week of the 30-day claim update time frame
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I have posted an update. I've had a busy period and now with the WC soccer I didn't have much time to work on the claim.
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Hey just reminding you that you're now within a week of the 30-day update time frame!
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Post by blackbird »

I have updated the claim. Use nr 7.

The claim itself is finished. It contans more mountainous and rocky areas.
I gave the interior list a page ago.
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What about 4-48?
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To be honest, I didn't work much on it. I believe the basic design is done.
If I would have violated the rules or if someone could finsih 4-48 faster then me, I'll drop it. Or else I'll continue with that claim.

The uploaded file contains only the 15 cells of 4-17-Hla.

Before I forgot: Tyrion and Haplo, you know that used to be together. The boundaries between those should match (almost ) perfectly with each other. If you see floating objects near the border, please don't fix as they should match with the objects from 4-48-Hla.
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I was just curious if you were still working on it since it hadn't been part of the WIP for this claim for a while now. No big rush or anything.
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This claim is finished, so I'm submitting it to review. Use file #7 for review.
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Post by Tyrion »

This needs redoing.

Two things that are big problems with this claim:

1. 8-bit roads:

[img]http://a.imageshack.us/img840/2276/exteriorfix1.jpg[/img]

That is unacceptable. Too straight, and you've only painted the road texture over the terrain. You need to edit the terrain to make the road look real, not just painted on.

2. this border:

[img]http://a.imageshack.us/img820/3610/exteriorfix12.jpg[/img]

The border between the coast AI region and RR can't just be an arbitrary line on the ground where the texture changes. You need some sort of geographic barrier to make it seem not so absurd. The RR is defined as a rocky hill country with lots of big boulders and cliffs. Make a line of cliffs as was done on the other side of the river. I already started that for you, the other side of the river looks pretty good since it has a more natural demarcation between regions.

Beyond this however, the claim looks great. You would pass review with flying colors were it not for those two things above.
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Post by blackbird »

Do you mean this for every road of the claim or only the road you've showed on the screenshot? I don't think every road can be bended much, but I agree they're too straight for the RR region.
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Post by Tyrion »

The rest are fine. You're a good modder blackbird. I know because I've seen your work before so I know you know when something doesn't look good. When you're unsure about something just do the right thing and make it look good. I showed you examples, so make sure that kind of thing doesn't come up again.
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Post by blackbird »

I have worked on this file and redid some of the roads. i'll upload some screens, so the other exterior modders can judge (based on those screens) wheter the roads look good or not.
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Post by Tyrion »

That looks much better.
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Post by blackbird »

Here is the latest file. It's the file at this post.
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Post by Tyrion »

Is this finished?
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Post by blackbird »

The final file is nr 1 (latest date).
I have fixed some floaters and jagged terrain. Improved some areas near some other roads.
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Post by Haplo »

In that case, submitting to review; use File #1 (latest date) for reviewing.
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Post by blackbird »

According to the interior rules, I won't claim this anymore if this is revoked again.
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Post by Tyrion »

TESAME: Clean

Fits exterior: Yes



Northmarker set: Yes
Loading errors: No



Review: Much better. All the problems mentioned were addressed. I still saw some jagged terrain here and there though.

Comments With those problems fixed this is now up to TR standards. A very good exterior.

Rating 8/10
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Post by Haplo »

Lots of rough areas, and a surprising amount of floaters, but a beautiful claim overall.

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