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Yeah, I figured I might not be entirely up to speed about which cells should be which, but I thought it needed to be pointed out anyway Moving the entire city half a cell to the west would solve loads though, and if the bridge-thing in the south is moved just a few inches to the north it falls within the same cells too.
Firstly just because a small part of the bridge is sticking in a another cell dosen't mean that the hole cell has to be renamed. As for the striderport look at Khuul ( at port there). Also look at Vivec (there are cells named Vivec that are totaly wild nothing built cells.)
I will gladly delete the cells to the right there could be a mine there or something like that.....
EDIT: deleting the things in that cell will help a lot in keeping the size of the fort int decent so they will go.
I will gladly delete the cells to the right there could be a mine there or something like that.....
EDIT: deleting the things in that cell will help a lot in keeping the size of the fort int decent so they will go.
It's about the doormarkers and teleport markers. If they end up being in an extra cell instead of the named cells, that's a problem.
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OK have shrunk the town from things going in 7 cells to 4 cells (2 main town+ 2 strider and exit). I truly and realy hope you like this.... Any suggestions ?
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Why not move the strider port to the west cliff opposite the main fort entrance? That part looks a little empty atm. Here's a little something I did with mainly ctrl-d and some minor terrain modification.
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Yes. However, the strider needs to be able to leave the city, which it can't if there are walls at both ends of the town. So while it would be nice to have the strider in the middle, I believe it will not be feasible.
Why not try this:
[img]http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5892/compacttown1.jpg[/img]
Move the three (or include that fourth one) buildings in the red circle to where the arrow is pointing; remove that big rock and utilize the space for city building. Then you can shift the wall down a bit, and more importantly, extend the cliff out a bit, so there's a bit of a bluff there (doable, I think), and have the strider port exiting out the top-left bit, so that it extends over the top of the wall, with the Silt Strider just outside the wall. This way, with the wall shifted south a bit, the Silt Strider will be outside of the wall but still inside the named cell.
Why not try this:
[img]http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5892/compacttown1.jpg[/img]
Move the three (or include that fourth one) buildings in the red circle to where the arrow is pointing; remove that big rock and utilize the space for city building. Then you can shift the wall down a bit, and more importantly, extend the cliff out a bit, so there's a bit of a bluff there (doable, I think), and have the strider port exiting out the top-left bit, so that it extends over the top of the wall, with the Silt Strider just outside the wall. This way, with the wall shifted south a bit, the Silt Strider will be outside of the wall but still inside the named cell.
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Or one can just not put an arch over the passage in a wall that strider can easily step over anyway. Or just remove the wall.Yes. However, the strider needs to be able to leave the city, which it can't if there are walls at both ends of the town. So while it would be nice to have the strider in the middle, I believe it will not be feasible.
At any rate, I think it's still better to shrink this town. More than two cells should really be reserved to only the biggest, most important towns. It looks bad on the map, too. Like Why says, the western cliff edge is still very underdeveloped.
Ok going for the Haplo strider ideea and here is the new pic. I truly and realy hope that this is good. Don't mind the misplaced shacks and please say if you like this..
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Walls are a bit necessary since this is a fortified settlement. The idea I proposed that alex implemented most recently takes care of that, and it also should happen to keep everything within two cells; half of one and half of the other. So those problems seem to be solved.Adanorcil wrote: Or one can just not put an arch over the passage in a wall that strider can easily step over anyway. Or just remove the wall.
At any rate, I think it's still better to shrink this town. More than two cells should really be reserved to only the biggest, most important towns. It looks bad on the map, too. Like Why says, the western cliff edge is still very underdeveloped.
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All the better, then.Haplo wrote:Walls are a bit necessary since this is a fortified settlement. The idea I proposed that alex implemented most recently takes care of that, and it also should happen to keep everything within two cells; half of one and half of the other. So those problems seem to be solved.Adanorcil wrote: Or one can just not put an arch over the passage in a wall that strider can easily step over anyway. Or just remove the wall.
At any rate, I think it's still better to shrink this town. More than two cells should really be reserved to only the biggest, most important towns. It looks bad on the map, too. Like Why says, the western cliff edge is still very underdeveloped.
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I kind of want to see it from another angle
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Looks good. Where will that tunnel/interior come out though?
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So the interior for the bazaar will need to include a hallway that exits to the silt strider platform. Gotcha.
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What are you planning to do landscape region-wise with the northern and northwestern edges of this claim?
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Can you also transition regions; starting in that area to turn into BM mountains as you move further northwest. Just the cornering cells would be enough.
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Ok while working i had a ideea for making a strange velohi building. It's a makeshift and could be a monastery a ruin or a tomb.
See the pic and tell me what you think
See the pic and tell me what you think
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yes, but it should probably be close to the city; no more thank three shacks, max.
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I thought we didn't want any mines near the city because the city's economy has nothing to do with mining. (in an effort to break from that cliche)
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There should be no mine near the city. The military people don't make money by making weapons and armor, they make it by using it.
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Hey, just letting you know you're within a week of the 30-day update time frame.
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Hey alex25, this needs an update by today. Please let us know what's going on!
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Hey alex, just reminding you that you never posted that update.
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