5-16-Red
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5-16-Red
Claim type: Exterior
Claim ID: TR_5-16-Red (#183)
Faction: Redoran
Claimed by: blackbird
Status: Approved (Progress: 100%)
Location: (-28,11):(-26,8), Size: 12
Files: TR_5-16-Red_Haplo_1.esp
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Velothi Mountains. See 5-15 for inspiration, although this contains some lower areas.
Please download map 5 height map here and work from that:
http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=19347
Note that cleaning irrelevant cells may create land tears, so backup your work regularly and often.
This part of the VM uses BM statics.
Claim ID: TR_5-16-Red (#183)
Faction: Redoran
Claimed by: blackbird
Status: Approved (Progress: 100%)
Location: (-28,11):(-26,8), Size: 12
Files: TR_5-16-Red_Haplo_1.esp
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Velothi Mountains. See 5-15 for inspiration, although this contains some lower areas.
Please download map 5 height map here and work from that:
http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=19347
Note that cleaning irrelevant cells may create land tears, so backup your work regularly and often.
This part of the VM uses BM statics.
Granted. Work from height map.
Road map is in the first post ;) .
Flora to use: BM stuff, as well as some other flora used in for instance 4-43 and 4-16.
Have fun, and remember to post early WIP. We're currently treading new grounds here, and since this region isn't developed yet we need to test how stuff looks before we are happy.
Road map is in the first post ;) .
Flora to use: BM stuff, as well as some other flora used in for instance 4-43 and 4-16.
Have fun, and remember to post early WIP. We're currently treading new grounds here, and since this region isn't developed yet we need to test how stuff looks before we are happy.
Looks good, one question though: Could you please change the grass as I asked about March 16th?blackbird wrote:Updated with a clean file.
"On snow limit, please use greener less snowy grass when you get below 6000." - Reason for this is consistency. It only applies for -26 10 and -26 11 so it shouldn't take too long. Also I suggest starting using the non snowed trees here, as well as non snowed stubs and other items. But try making it a smooth transition, snow fading out the further down you get.
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I didn't create a road between my claim and the claim of Cormaris, partly because there is no road from the old cormaris claim, because of map/esp inaccuracy and because the road should be created with cliff pieces.
interior claim list:
-27,11: a cave below the road. Could be a bandit or smugglers cave
-26,10: home of 2 lumberjacks
-27,10: a cave with ice elements
-28,9: another cave below the snow
interior claim list:
-27,11: a cave below the road. Could be a bandit or smugglers cave
-26,10: home of 2 lumberjacks
-27,10: a cave with ice elements
-28,9: another cave below the snow
This claim needs a few fixes before we're accepting it for review.
March 16th: I ask you to kill my old vertex shading, this has not been done. See the blue stuff in -28 10 for example. I also see traces of the orange color some places. I used these colors to color code the different height in this map, and it should be removed before submitting for review. You should also use more vertex shading around statics.
Also, the roads are not detailed enough, please see 5-6, 5-25, 5-13 etc for guidance concerning road detailing. As of now the ref count in each cell is ok but the roads are in need of more Terrain_rocks_BM_01 + 02, grass statics, shrubs and other BM stuff.
Please search and replace TR_terrain_BM_rocks_03 with TR_terrain_BM_rocks_01 and TR_terrain_BM_rocks_04 with TR_terrain_BM_rocks_02. This can be done for the entire .esp, not necessary per cell.
March 16th: I ask you to kill my old vertex shading, this has not been done. See the blue stuff in -28 10 for example. I also see traces of the orange color some places. I used these colors to color code the different height in this map, and it should be removed before submitting for review. You should also use more vertex shading around statics.
Also, the roads are not detailed enough, please see 5-6, 5-25, 5-13 etc for guidance concerning road detailing. As of now the ref count in each cell is ok but the roads are in need of more Terrain_rocks_BM_01 + 02, grass statics, shrubs and other BM stuff.
Please search and replace TR_terrain_BM_rocks_03 with TR_terrain_BM_rocks_01 and TR_terrain_BM_rocks_04 with TR_terrain_BM_rocks_02. This can be done for the entire .esp, not necessary per cell.
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Fixing vertex shading includes killing (right clicking) all the blue left over vertex shading I left there in the heightmap. Then, by using the vertex shade guide in the internal forums, you fix the rest of the vertex shading. By "more" vertex shading I probably thought you were a little careful on the shading in your file. Using the values in the vertex topic might do just the trick though...
Link to said thread: http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?p=301813
Link to said thread: http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?p=301813
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"How dare you question the colonnade!" - one of the Glorious Leaders
"Nemon + IKEA = creationism" - some guy
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Time for some more backseat reviewing:
8/10/2011 (12:00) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_01 TR_5-16_Red (-27,8) -214103 71982 10961 "caspering"
8/10/2011 (12:01) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_01 TR_5-16_Red (-28,9) -224632 75825 9267 "floater"
8/10/2011 (12:03) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling ex_Snow_drift TR_5-16_Red (-28,10) -228034 85390 10910 "floater (look from south)"
8/10/2011 (12:04) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling ex_Snow_drift TR_5-16_Red (-28,11) -223369 93427 7086 "slight caspering (look from west)"
8/10/2011 (12:05) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_05 TR_5-16_Red (-28,11) -224813 95309 6142 "i can't believe snow would actually take such a shape. think gravity"
8/10/2011 (12:05) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_BM_shrub_02 TR_5-16_Red (-28,11) -222868 95175 6232 "floater"
8/10/2011 (12:08) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_rocks_BM_01 TR_5-16_Red (-26,11) -206166 93645 3604 "an abrupt ground texture change that these rocks were supposed to hide, but didn't completely hide"
8/10/2011 (12:11) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_BM_belladonna_03 TR_5-16_Red (-26,10) -211463 89273 4310 "These belladonna plants look somewhat lonely when just standing around in the middle of nothing. Maybe put them closer to the BM_shrubs?"
8/10/2011 (12:11) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_BM_treestump_02 TR_5-16_Red (-26,10) -210429 87741 4428 "floater"
8/10/2011 (12:11) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_BM_treestump_03 TR_5-16_Red (-26,10) -208365 85644 4487 "floater"
8/10/2011 (12:12) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_BM_treestump_02 TR_5-16_Red (-26,10) -205306 84813 4464 "floater"
8/10/2011 (12:59) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_tree_BM_snow_02 TR_5-16_Red (-26,9) -212250 80036 6602 "flotater"
8/10/2011 (13:04) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_tree_BM_snow_06 TR_5-16_Red (-26,9) -206029 78827 6437 "flotater"
8/10/2011 (13:08) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_rock_BM_62 TR_5-16_Red (-27,8) -214862 72796 11055 "I'm all for making a hidden Nord tomb somewhere around here, maybe even with a snowed-in entrance the player has to excavate..."
8/10/2011 (13:12) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_01 TR_5-16_Red (-28,8) -227586 71376 10513 "floater"
8/10/2011 (13:12) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling ex_Snow_drift TR_5-16_Red (-28,9) -227014 74651 9974 "floater"
8/10/2011 (13:12) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling ex_Snow_drift TR_5-16_Red (-28,9) -228219 75020 10878 "caspering"
8/10/2011 (13:14) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_05 TR_5-16_Red (-27,9) -219786 78109 7916 "another snowdrift that doesn't make much sense, gravitywise"
Please take my comments about snowdrifts and gravity with a grain of salt. Haven't seen a real snowdrift for 15 years now...
8/10/2011 (12:00) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_01 TR_5-16_Red (-27,8) -214103 71982 10961 "caspering"
8/10/2011 (12:01) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_01 TR_5-16_Red (-28,9) -224632 75825 9267 "floater"
8/10/2011 (12:03) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling ex_Snow_drift TR_5-16_Red (-28,10) -228034 85390 10910 "floater (look from south)"
8/10/2011 (12:04) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling ex_Snow_drift TR_5-16_Red (-28,11) -223369 93427 7086 "slight caspering (look from west)"
8/10/2011 (12:05) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_05 TR_5-16_Red (-28,11) -224813 95309 6142 "i can't believe snow would actually take such a shape. think gravity"
8/10/2011 (12:05) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_BM_shrub_02 TR_5-16_Red (-28,11) -222868 95175 6232 "floater"
8/10/2011 (12:08) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_rocks_BM_01 TR_5-16_Red (-26,11) -206166 93645 3604 "an abrupt ground texture change that these rocks were supposed to hide, but didn't completely hide"
8/10/2011 (12:11) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_BM_belladonna_03 TR_5-16_Red (-26,10) -211463 89273 4310 "These belladonna plants look somewhat lonely when just standing around in the middle of nothing. Maybe put them closer to the BM_shrubs?"
8/10/2011 (12:11) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_BM_treestump_02 TR_5-16_Red (-26,10) -210429 87741 4428 "floater"
8/10/2011 (12:11) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_BM_treestump_03 TR_5-16_Red (-26,10) -208365 85644 4487 "floater"
8/10/2011 (12:12) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_BM_treestump_02 TR_5-16_Red (-26,10) -205306 84813 4464 "floater"
8/10/2011 (12:59) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_tree_BM_snow_02 TR_5-16_Red (-26,9) -212250 80036 6602 "flotater"
8/10/2011 (13:04) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Flora_tree_BM_snow_06 TR_5-16_Red (-26,9) -206029 78827 6437 "flotater"
8/10/2011 (13:08) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_rock_BM_62 TR_5-16_Red (-27,8) -214862 72796 11055 "I'm all for making a hidden Nord tomb somewhere around here, maybe even with a snowed-in entrance the player has to excavate..."
8/10/2011 (13:12) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_01 TR_5-16_Red (-28,8) -227586 71376 10513 "floater"
8/10/2011 (13:12) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling ex_Snow_drift TR_5-16_Red (-28,9) -227014 74651 9974 "floater"
8/10/2011 (13:12) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling ex_Snow_drift TR_5-16_Red (-28,9) -228219 75020 10878 "caspering"
8/10/2011 (13:14) TR_5-16-Red_blackbird_6.esp 8/3/2011 (13:11) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_05 TR_5-16_Red (-27,9) -219786 78109 7916 "another snowdrift that doesn't make much sense, gravitywise"
Please take my comments about snowdrifts and gravity with a grain of salt. Haven't seen a real snowdrift for 15 years now...
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TESAME: Clean
Fits exterior: Yes
Northmarker set: Yes
Loading errors: No
Review: Pretty good. No big problems. The only real issue was the road was the improper texture. Changed it in the areas where there's no snow to match.
Comments Good stuff.
Rating 8/10
Fits exterior: Yes
Northmarker set: Yes
Loading errors: No
Review: Pretty good. No big problems. The only real issue was the road was the improper texture. Changed it in the areas where there's no snow to match.
Comments Good stuff.
Rating 8/10
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"Imagination and memory are but one thing which for diverse considerations have diverse names."
"How dare you question the colonnade!" - one of the Glorious Leaders
"Nemon + IKEA = creationism" - some guy
"The layout is awesome, the scale is awesome, the whole city is just awesome!" - Tyrion on Blacklight, circa 2007
"How dare you question the colonnade!" - one of the Glorious Leaders
"Nemon + IKEA = creationism" - some guy
"The layout is awesome, the scale is awesome, the whole city is just awesome!" - Tyrion on Blacklight, circa 2007