i3-719-Imp

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:52 am

Claim type: Interior
Claim ID: TR_i3-719-Imp (#2522)
Faction: Imperial
Parent claim: TR_3-24-Imp (#128)
Claimed by: alex25
Status: Approved (Progress: 100%)
Location: 1:(956, -2276):0
Files: TR_i3-719-Imp_Thrignar Fraxix_1.esp; TR_i3-719-Imp_alex25_2.esp

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OE West #12 http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7383/oewestmap.jpg

High Quality Goods Merchant. Imperial with EEC contacts. Should have some hard to find items.

SamirA · Post by **SamirA** » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:02 am

Unlocking.

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:48 pm

Claiming. Two-storey 3x3 int with shop on the first floor and housing on the second.

SamirA · Post by **SamirA** » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:54 pm

Generic grant message.

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:22 pm

Done.

Why · Post by **Why** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:50 pm

I know this is supposed to be a high quality store but raw ebony and gemstones on a limeware platter might be overdoing it just a little. Besides, isn't limeware Dwemer? It's certainly got Dwemeris written all over it. Unless this guy's in league with the EEC which I find a bit of a stretch selling Dwemer artifacts and ebony is against the law :/

Otherwise this interior looks mighty fine.

edit:
<SamirA> the guys does have EEC contacts, but anything quite so impressive should be tucked away at the very least
<SamirA> and yes Why, limeware is dwemer
<Why> actually, here's an idea
<Why> the guy's got a complete set of Limeware in a container, preferably glass so that the player can see it but not pick it up
<Why> if that's even possible
<Why> (if not, we'll have to script them so it's impossible to pick them up)
<Why> the shopkeeper offers to sell it to the player for a bargain price
<Why> player can inquire if that's legal, shopkeeper will act shady
<Why> player buys it, exits store, is promptly arrested
<SamirA> oh we're gettin all questy here. I like it
<Why> it's a setup, EEC and guard is cracking down on ownership of illegal items
<Why> PC hasn't done that much wrong, but they just want to set an example
<Why> PC offers to pay a fine, guard says he doesn't give a damn, fadeblack, you're in the OE prison
<Why> you say shit's not cosher since you were set up, guard captain agrees to let you go if you take care of some known smugglers they have no evidence against (edit: or do some other unsavory job that's for the good of the town but not exactly legal)
<Why> cool?
<SamirA> i like it
<Why> idk, I just thought of it, there's bound to be plot holes, but it sounds like something we could work with
<SamirA> nah, just a typical sting
<SamirA> should be good

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:09 pm

Changes done. The vanilla limeware is placeholder for quest limeware.

Terrifying Daedric Foe · Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:43 pm

I like the quest idea, but what happens if you recall / divine intervention out of the shop?

Why · Post by **Why** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:50 pm

I suppose that'd leave you with limeware for a bargain price. Fine with me.

Andres Indoril · Post by **Andres Indoril** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:13 pm

The scripts should probably check for such an event then. Remove the quest limeware and replace it with vanilla for stackyness.

Terrifying Daedric Foe · Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:09 pm

Fine. It's just struck me how difficult a job it must be for the guards in Tamriel when unless you take the suspect by complete surprise and are able to paralyse them quickly enough they can just teleport away.

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:15 pm

Wouldn't it be better to simply disable teleport from the desired cells for the duration of the quest?

Why · Post by **Why** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:26 pm

No. Why would the player be unable to teleport while holding a set of tableware? We're better than that.

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:18 pm

Then why not make grabbing the tableware teleport the player into the castle dungeon and disable teleportation in that dungeon? Perhaps even blind the player or something. After all this is supposed to be a setup so the guards should take good care that the PC won't be able to escape. Perhaps with a high intelligence (or willpower or alteration) the player will just 'overpower' the antiteleport field and be able to get away or talk his way out (with high reputation or personality).

Terrifying Daedric Foe · Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:36 pm

I've just realised: aren't there normally guards in shops to deter you from stealing stuff? The shopkeeper wouldn't want to do anything dodgy with a guard standing a few feet away.

How about having a shady guy in a lower-class tavern mistake you for the client he was supposed to sell the limeware to? The under-cover guardsman in the tavern who's been following the shady guy assumes you're the person he's looking for and arrests you if you buy the limeware. You end up in prison unless you can talk your way out, in which case you get blackmailed into doing some dubious task the guards can't do because it's illegal.

Mortimer · Post by **Mortimer** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:33 pm

But remember to always have the "fight" option as every other guard in the game does that results in a failed quest / significant bounty.

Why · Post by **Why** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:41 pm

Let's discuss the quest in more detail once the city has been somewhat NPCed.

SamirA · Post by **SamirA** » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:57 pm

Yes, the only thing that should matter for this is you making the display. Don't worry about the details.

SamirA · Post by **SamirA** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:57 am

This needs something by the weekend or will be revoked.

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:06 pm

I don't have any ideas on how to make an interesting display (all my attempts at makeshifting something failed) however the last file uploaded should have all the limeware in one visible place so it could be good enough.

I'll do the changes if you want to remove or move the limeware around and add/change other interior stuff but I'm no longer touching the 'makeshift a limeware display' stuff.

Why · Post by **Why** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:14 pm

I kinda like the current limeware positioning.

SamirA · Post by **SamirA** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:46 pm

Yes it is good enough.

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:51 pm

Then this should be sent to review.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:29 pm

then this shall be sent to review

Not · Post by **Not** » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:44 pm

TESAME: Clean

Fits exterior: Yes

Northmarker set: Yes
Loading errors: No

Review: TR_w_imp_dagger wasn't resting properly

steel katana wasn't resting properly

in_c_door_arched needed to be adjusted

light_com_lamp_01 was floating slightly

TR_furn_com_r_bkend was floating

Comments Not bad. Look forward to seeing this in game

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:46 am

Approving. contract or no, I'm still wondering how ok ebony and limeware are.

SamirA · Post by **SamirA** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:50 am

It's supposed to be quest related.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:11 am

oh hey, I should try reading threads maybe