Tamriel Rebuilt

Black Cat

Ok, so they focus more on the "good" daedra as their ancestors then the other houses do (in general, that is). But this doesn't mean they shun the Tribunal Temple or have any "real" problem with it. Am I correct? Perhaps public shrines to non-saint/god ancestors would be in the T...

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I think there's no point to that idea.

Alrighty then.

Black Cat

I believe the Dres are heavily focused on Ancestor worship, and the Anticipations as Ancestors.

If this is true, might it be possible for my sub-adoption idea to work?

Black Cat

Thanks again for the advice, and thanks for being patient with me. Hopefully this next update will be the last.

Black Cat

I meant as anticipations, but I think the Dres would only keep worshiping these "anticipations", as opposed to worshiping the actual daedra, to keep the temple/ordinators off their back. I think they would lean more towards the daedra than towards Alma, Sotha, or Vivec. I also think most D...

Black Cat

In the larger context of Houses Indoril and Dres, this stuff is pretty important. But if you wanted to talk about something else, why not do so? I accept your challenge! But anyway here we go. There are a few more things about Dres I would like to discuss. Primary among them being just how involved...

Black Cat

So everybody needs the Hlaalu, unless they want their trade with distant houses or foreign provinces to be handled directly by the East Empire Company... I think you're right about that, but in my own mind I doubt that the Hlaalu are really much better than the East Empire Company, with the excepti...

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He never said that they belonged , he said that they felt closest, anyway here is the link. http://www.imperial-library.info/tsomw/mw_18.shtml But to save some time here is the quote: "I love the people of Morrowind. I became a god to make their lives more comfortable and secure. I am most clos...

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Interesting thread. Had I known that it lived beyond the first 4 posts I would have been all over this.... Heh, my first two threads seem to have become very popular. I doubt I am worthy. Side note/question: If Almalexia was closest to the Indoril, who were Vivec and Sotha Sil closest to? Vivec is ...

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My mistake then, I was under the impression Dres and Indoril were allies. Apparently not.

Black Cat

What? USA? I thought I was living in the League of Nations... Well I'm in Dixie, that's sort of another country isn't it? But to repeat my original question : Now about Indoril's relationship with House Dres, just how "friendly" will they be? In vanilla Morrowind Hlaalu, Redoran, and Telv...

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Though admittedly submitted rather quickly (again), this latest update is horrendously, painfully, torturously thorough. I checked the file with TESAME and spent about an hour and a half scrolling through the list, checking to make sure every new dialogue, script, cell, item, and NPC was sound. As f...

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There is ZERO evidence to show that Indoril Nerevar established House Indoril. I do not know much about this subject so I can't really be 100% sure, but even if Nerevar did not really found House Indoril, most people think he did, or will assume he did. You could argue that that is illogical, and i...

Black Cat

I don't mean to be rude, but I can't emphasise enough how you need to check everything very thoroughly when making a TR quest. You can't just throw it together and keep having it sent back from review - it wastes everyone else's time and makes the whole process much longer than it needs to be. Try ...

Black Cat

I have to say with all the thinking going into this, that Map3 and House Indoril look like they will turn out very well. Not that the first two weren't good, or that House Telvanni wasn't enjoyable, but Map3 appears to be where TR will really start to shine.

Black Cat

Maybe they really don't want many people to know they're behind it and would perfer giving it to one of there own members than an independant organation such as the Morag Tong. I'm pretty sure the Morag Tong keeps it's contracts and clients secret. I also don't think the Morag Tong would care enoug...

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What if a major concern for House Indoril is the failing values/virtues of the younger members, members who are more loyal to Helseth and Barenziah than to Neril Sevuro and the Alma Rula. Perhaps Indoril's storyline focuses in on maintaining purity and intent. Neril Sevuro is focusing on eliminatin...

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I meant towards the end, not actually as the end quest.

Black Cat

So as TF stated earlier, the possibilities with House Indoril are indeed almost endless, at least with the ways one can make quests. All the Indoril ideas that have been suggested are certainly good ideas, but I can't shake the feeling that there is something really clever that no one has thought of...

Black Cat

But they are bound to have underhand tactics as well. I can see that, but I think the underhanded stuff should come at a higher level. Indoril seems to me all about it's power and honor, and trusting a lower ranking member to do something that could seem kind of shady might not be wise. Maybe when ...

Black Cat

but if you want to define them, I think I would go with Administration and Law. They govern, and that is what they do. So I gather that while they do not necessarily control everything, they do make a tremendous effort to be the most dominate house. I think there could be quests geared towards that...

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I think Indoril's potential is almost a problem in itself. I mean if there is so much that could be done, what do you go with? A few kill the heretics quests is always a solid idea in Indoril's case I would suppose, but what if a little twist was added, like the heretics were daedra worshipers prete...

Black Cat

Thank you, that gives me a more clear view of House Indoril. So how do you think the quests should be set up? I understand Indoril is involved in the Temple, and there will probably be a few quests related to that. There will probably also be a few quests related to the ordinators, but I don't think...

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hope to help the best I can (just giving ideas, I don't know how to make quests hehe)! Very Happy Well I do, and though my showcase may make my quest designing and writing look less than average, I swear I am truly great/at least will be soon (The latest update is uploaded, only one error, you know...

Black Cat

Excuse me? I do say I prefer a thousand times house Indoril to house Dres and that's purely true. You may like house Dres more, but please, don't say house Indoril is not a very interesting house, at least. House Indoril is bounded to Morrowind history in a way that is simply amazing. And although ...

Black Cat

Indoril seems like it would be kind of difficult to create quests for, since it's not immediately apparent what they actually do. Perhaps House Indoril operates like a group of nobles, just sitting around collecting taxes, governing over their territories, preventing uprisings, and generally monito...

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There probabily should be more discussion on Indoril. Map 3 seems to be pretty far along in developement :dance: while Map 6 isn't even being worked on. Perhaps someone should start a new thread so there can be seperate discussions on both Indoril and Dres. Yes, I suppose you're right. Everybody le...

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This isn't really where we are deciding anything really, this is just a place to discuss ideas, that somewhere down the road those who will decide can come back to. I'm well aware that this isn't where we actually decide things, otherwise I would have named it the official dres and indoril discussi...

Black Cat

Ok, I'll get right back on helping you guys discuss things as soon as this is answered:

We've all gone against me and Grand Magnate will unattainable? Or Is it still open for debate? Or are we going to ignore it for the time being.

Black Cat

they can be the leader of the other 5 houses and dozen factions, i dont see them having a shiny title (which is really all that house leaders are) as much of a disappointment. I'll be honest, I am being pretty fucking anal about this. There are two reasons. 1.I really like House Dres and plan to fi...

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Yea I like that. Then the council has worked itself around this so that it can exercise most of its power without needing the Grand Magnate there. There should probably still be more to it than that. If the Magnate never shows up, eventually someone is going to have him declared dead, so perhaps th...

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One thing that hasn't been considered. How long would an nemer Grand Magnate last in Dres territory? One Dres councilor is so unliked that he is forced to live in exile in Ebonheart Castle. How long would a council of Dres members amuse a nemer leader? Probably a few hours before he or she was murd...

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They likely would not conflict at all because TR tries amazingly hard to the mainland and vvarndenfell very separate.

Black Cat

I vote for Dres being joinable by all, but limited in ascent (i.e. no becoming head of the house). Ideas for pilgrimages-esque joining sound good. House Dres should be joinable and The Grand Magnate should be attainable. Period. It's no fun joining them if you can't rise to the top like in other ho...

Black Cat

That is a good idea. Also, those quests should require doing things that abolitionists, Argonians or Khajiit would find objectionable; and there should be no way to only pretend to do them. Like, if you're tasked with slaying a bunch of rebellious slaves, you could try letting them escape and prete...

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"They's a differn' colour to us and we don' take kindly to those types down here in the south (of Morrowind)". Mercy, now I do believe thata you'll go far down here, Mr. Chin. As such, it makes it difficult, but not impossible, for outlanders, through great adversity and willpower, to suc...

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Well the whole thing functions perfectly except for the note. Which still won't provide the journal entry. To fix that while testing just open of the console and type Journal Arkay_Honor 30

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im not sure the Dres want an outright criminal Perhaps they think you're expendable. On the subject of having to hire you...how much do you think the Dres give a damn about keeping up appearances? Would they have continued slave raids? Would they keep brutalizing slaves and citizens? (only anit-dre...

Black Cat

Mass sucide? This should spare us a lot of NPC programming...

No kidding!

I suppose we shall discuss Indoril later. We'll finish Dres first, as it is easier to do one at a time.

lapel and all.

Hmmm, I am not anything close to an Obama fan, but I'll let it go because Lady N is awesome.

Black Cat

That's solid advice Hemi, I think it would help us all better understand House Dres. Now, do any of us really have a sense of how this would go? Dres is different from Hlaalu, Redoran, Indoril, and Telvanni. Who could you talk to that would let you in. Better yet, why would he/she let you in? There ...

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