Tamriel Rebuilt

NathanJ

So a few further thoughts (and questions to the lead devs) about the IC-questlines Lets say the player becomes morrowinds primate, how can he be member of the ennead at the same time (and vice versa)? My suggestion is to let this be a part of the game experience, as TES has always been like "ye...

NathanJ

Wow, I didnt think thats gonna become so heated.. Well, as I said, this mod cannot be 100% perfect. And Im not against the lead devs making decisions for the whole mod. But I have to say that in cases where the community is so much involved emotionally it can be dangerous to make decisions that igno...

NathanJ

Oh sry, I posted as guest.

NathanJ

On that idea of dres cuncillors being vampires again: I dont think that every player of TR does fully understand the lore behind the vamirism of dres councillors. I believe they will be disbelieving and find it really strange, because of the most obvious things we discussed already. MAYBE they will ...

NathanJ

Just for remembering some things: - Gnomey had the idea of the anticipations (azura, boethiah, mephala) of the temple actively doing something against the dunmer people being converted to the IC. The background of this is that those daedra built up the dunmer society to a certain point over thousand...

NathanJ

One of Infragris' texts with a few comments on how my design of the IC is linked with the cyrodiilic religion. First of all, the IC in the provinces has a different purpose than in Cyrodiil. The IC in the provinces tries to bring the imperial faith to the native people, so it tries to convert people...

NathanJ

Great, thanks for reminding me. As I said, these are only my very first thoughts about that matter, it will become more specific (and complex, I will include Infragris' portrayal of the cyrodiilic religion) as time goes by. I have heard gro-Dhal has designed a few IC-quests for OE? I think it would ...

NathanJ

Hi, I wanted to release my first thoughts about the IC - questlines, together with some first lore-extensions. The imperial cult is divided into four subgroups (or philosophical trends with charismatic representatives), the godlead , radical , liberal and the puritan . The godlead are not officially...

NathanJ

I have 3 spontaneous ideas, still have to be fleshed out, but I wanted to bump them in The first would be a quest in Ruma Soanix`s Manor, that house with the "mad" noble. It would be interesting to portray Ruma Soanix relationship to her servants (and the relationships of the servants to e...

NathanJ

Yes, House Dres needs an unique backstory, I see this point just as you. And I apologise for my formulation "vampires = cliche", taken literally it is not true, vampires CAN be portrayed cliched but dont have to, thats all. As I said I was a little emotional, I hope you dont resent my rude...

NathanJ

Hi, Id like to throw in my 2 cents here. I dont like the idea of the council members being immortal but try to keep the illusion going that they continiously die and are being replaced - I think (espacially that they are compared to VAMPIRES!! hey guys, the age when vampires were the universal tool ...

NathanJ

It might be useful at this place to say that I have begun working out a global plan for our faction questlines. I have said this in my showcase, but I think I should carry this into this discussion^^ I will post the plan later when I finished it, and I think it has a very practical approach that can...

NathanJ

Hey guys, I just wanted to announce what I plan to do in the new Year. Of course the lore-thing with the IC is going to be finished.. finally! After that I will attack our lack of faction-questlines. I have already worked out a little system for that AND begun designing questlines for the IC - logic...

NathanJ

I love this idea! Only the idea of the questgiver being hostile at first is disturbing me, because my right index finger tends to be so nervous when it comes to unfriendly NPCs ;p

NathanJ

Eleventh part: " 8. Invoker from the verb "invoke" The possible meanings of "invoke" are: From http://dictionary.cambridge.org: 1. to use a law in order to achieve something, or to mention something in order to explain something or to support your opinion or action...

NathanJ

A little idea by the way: wouldnt it be useful to let some people from the very outside of the project look at our current system and the experiences TR has made with it and let them contribute their judgement to the discussion? Because people working with a system sometimes become blind for obvious...

NathanJ

In an interior/exterior claim a function thats visualizing the current state of a claim would be useful (or always posting a screenshot^^), so that an esp doesnt have to be downloaded for getting an imagination about how it looks like right now. By the way, I wanted to point out the system I made of...

NathanJ

Okay, I took what Not said in the skype meeting and worked out a practical system for working on the claims with the new system Not brought up. Nots original post in the skype meeting was the following: "Ok, I have a suggestion on what is needed to move forward in TR. Undetailed claims. You can...

NathanJ

That would be me for example..

NathanJ

As for me, I agree with not. Really, I want to design quests, its a burning issue to me. And now that OE is interiorized and NPCed it will be the logical next step to fill it with faction- and misc quests. While Im currently doing this IC-lore-thing, I would say Im going to do this paralell - for th...

NathanJ

Tenth part: "Rank 7-9, the charismatic ranks I have called those ranks the "charismatic ranks" (from greek "charisma", =gift of grace). This term is (in its greek form) in the bible often used by paul to describe special powers granted by god. I use this term to describe the...

NathanJ

Okay, then I have misunderstood what you wrote, my fault ._.

NathanJ

Thats a good approach I think, for the exteriors that are not yet existing. Im new to this community, so I dont know the story behind the discussions about redoing telvanis and almalexia and such, but Im in principle against redoing existing exteriors if they are not completely out of place. Beauty ...

NathanJ

I like that very much! As rewards (at a certain stage) I could imagine clothes with custom designs (and/or very high potential of being entchanted) that are only available by doing those quests.

NathanJ

Concerning an improvised shrine inside a house: Why not have in a single house in a town near a border a really small group of (3-4) people who are actually a daedric cult but pretty isolated. They were expelled from their home in skyrim/cyrodiil/black marsh and actually want to travel away from the...

NathanJ

Good points. Then I transfer those sketches to P:C. By the way, an improvised shrine in a home, thats a really good idea.

NathanJ

Or this One, related to Vaermina: A family gets haunted by mysterious dreams, that become more bizarre and disturbing every night. The mother asks the player to investigate those, because both the imperial cult and the temple failed at solving this problem. The first stage of the quests is to interr...

NathanJ

Okay then, Im going to start^^ Clavicus vile: A mercenary (lets call him Damian, Redguard in unconventionally combination of heavy armor) tried to make a trade with clavicus. He wanted a strongly improved block skill so that nobody could ever hope to hurt him. Clavicus agreed, but in exchange for th...

NathanJ

...but we focus on those seven daedra. That means at the end its not like we have 10 quests related to meridia and namira and 2 to mehrunes dagon. Question: Are we talking about questLINES, maybe from a daedric cult or a daedric prince who chooses the player to be his champion for a short time (or c...

NathanJ

While daedric quests are imao one of the most interesting kinds of quests I think I have read here that TR tries to focus on the daedric princes that are associated with the dunmeric religion (the three anticipations and the house of troubles, so only the seven daedra that are available as "que...

NathanJ

I cant speak for anyone here, but as I read this, I must say that one single month (plus christmas!!) is far not enough time for a project that extensive. But I am one of those who see a unified tamriel in one single mod one day! All hail the emperor ;-) Oh, or better, whole Nirn! Or no, Nirn and ev...

NathanJ

I think it would be good to make a master list of the lore questions that have to be made clear together with the reasons why they are important for the work of TR. The reason I ask this is that people like me, who cannot speak english well enough to participate in a complex real-time discussion (Im...

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Ninth part: "6. Disciple A disciple is someone who "follows" a spiritual leader in the sense of observing his deeds and words and learning from these. Examples are the disciples of jesus christ or the disciples of abdul-baha in the bahaism, an originally islamic sect. The disciple in ...

NathanJ

Youre right, I have thought about that matter too. TR doesnt do much puplicity, it just exists and to find it one has to google "morrowind mods" and to fight through the endless jungle of MW mods. But how can a mod for a game thats more than 10 years old be promoted?

NathanJ

Before I release the next part, let me shortly summarize things I learned before I forget them. What we have is a polytheistic cult with a mysterious element (influence from mystery schools of all kind (novice - adept)) and an influence from ancient greek polytheismic customs (the theurgy, the oracl...

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Seventh part: "3. initiate initiate = Ã¢â‚¬Å¾a person who has been initiatedÃ¢â‚¬Å“ (dictionary.com). Initiation rites are in many cultures all over the world, always meaning a rite that officially announces a person being a new member of a certain society. The initiate in the IC: This simply i...

NathanJ

Hi there, Id like to resurrect the FG thread and the discussion about what to do with it. You know, Vvardenfell is administrated as the "vvardenfell-district of the province of morrowind". Ive thought about how the "main quest of the FG (the one with percius mercius and sjoring hard-h...

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Sixth part: "2. novice The word "novice" has its origin in the latin word "noviter" (new(ly))., or more precise in its usage in the Rule of St. Benedict (The text that the Order of Saint Benedict observes). There its written like this (chapter 58, 1): Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Noviter veniens ...

NathanJ

Before I release the next part, let me add a short analysis of the whole religious structure of the cyrodiilic religion. From dialogues: (julianos) "Julianos, God of Wisdom and Logic, is the deity of literature, law, history, sorcery, enchantment, and alchemy. Monastic orders founded by Tiber S...

NathanJ

WAAAH, then I have completely (okay, just a little ;-)) misunderstood the purpose of this mod. I actually thought that the expansion this mod will provide will be an exact expansion concerning every little bit of lore, described by quests, dialogues and ingame-books that are (as far as managable) to...

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