The origin of the Orcs

nietzsche · Post by **nietzsche** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:01 am

I have often wondered where is the homeland of the orcs? This is what I came up with:

Orcs were born during the latter days of the Dawn Era. History has mislabeled them beastfolk, related to the goblin races, but the Orcs are actually the children of Trinimac, strongest of the Altmeri ancestor spirits. When Trinimac was eaten by the Daedroth Prince Boethiah, and transformed in that foul god's insides, the Orcs were transformed as well. The ancient name for the Orcs is 'Orsimer,' which means 'The Pariah Folk.' They now follow Malauch, the remains of Trinimac.

This is from the book The true nature of orcs. So the orcs are actually elves?!? And if a understand correctly they are cursed elves, followers of Trinimac/Malacth. But this doesn't explain where is their homeland. Perhaps it was aldmeris? could somebody shed some light in this, please?[/quote]

Phaen · Post by **Phaen** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:55 am

The elves, including what became the orcs, came from Aldmeris/Ehlnofey.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:59 am

The Orcs live in High Rock, a province created of the lands of the Bretons (who live in High Rock proper) and Orsinium (the land of the Orcs). The Orcs had their own province in the First Empire, but Tiber Septim annexed it to High Rock in the Second Empire as he hated Orcs (and yet he raved on about equality between the races and so forth. A load of BS.)

wishmaster · Post by **wishmaster** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:45 am

I don't know why, but I feel a little LOTR-Touch about that nietzsche!

nietzsche · Post by **nietzsche** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:17 am

yes, you're right wishmaster, there indeed seems to be resemblance about what Saruman said about the orcs in the movie.

But if you think logically, one comes easily to that kind of conclusion about the text, right?

nietzsche · Post by **nietzsche** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:21 am

Nomadic1 wrote:Orsinium (the land of the Orcs).

wasn't orsinium a huge city, not a land? (at least that's what i've read)

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:37 am

Someone on this forum said that Orisnium and the Dragontail Mountains were separated from the rest of High Rock recently. None of the maps show because it was so recent.

I think it was Eraser but I dont remember...

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:18 am

The orcs live in the Dragontail Mountains, I believe, which run from Hammerfell and into High Rock, so technically they live in both places. Their capital is in High Rock, however.

Artemus Canehar · Post by **Artemus Canehar** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:41 am

"These sophisticated barbarian beast peoples of the Wrothgarian and Dragontail mountains are noted for their unshakable courage in war and their unflinching endurance of hardships."

I know this isn't much of help but I could not find the name Wrothgarian from this topic.

I don't know much about Tamriel yet, but this is from the Morrowind manual.