Texture Request: Worn Dunmeri Furniture

Mr. Sorry of Balmora · Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:11 pm

i would like to request a worn mesh for dunmeri/ indorillian rich furniture

needs a "lived in" or "used often" quality included a rough sketch

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:48 am

So what you are asking for are worn, scratched furniture textures?

Amrod · Post by **Amrod** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:46 am

Meshes vernon, meshes

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:56 am

Amrod the Bard wrote:Meshes vernon, meshes :)

Well seeing as it says MESH REQUEST at the top, that is what I assumed. However there is no clear indication of what he wants meshed; just a few scratched textures. If it had been so clear to me as it apparently was to you, I wouldn't have asked the question.

Starcrunch · Post by **Starcrunch** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:20 am

What is wrong with the de_p style furniture that we already have? That is worn and used.

-Starcrunch

Amrod · Post by **Amrod** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:07 pm

Vernon wrote:
Amrod the Bard wrote:Meshes vernon, meshes
Well seeing as it says MESH REQUEST at the top, that is what I assumed. However there is no clear indication of what he wants meshed; just a few scratched textures. If it had been so clear to me as it apparently was to you, I wouldn't have asked the question.

Also, to make something look worn you don't need new meshes, so I understand what you said now vernon.
All you need to do is add some worn effects to existing texures and voila, you got yourself a worn chair or table. I think even I could do that. scrathes are easiest, I think stains and stuff arent that hard either so. maybe ill give it a try.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:13 pm

He's doing a rich house, Starcrunch. I don't know why it needs to be worn, there was no specific mention of worn furniture. Though it would just be a simple alteration of the original texture for some de_r furniture, it's unnecessary.

Then again, we could use it in other homes and buildings.

DMKW · Post by **DMKW** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:06 pm

if its a rich house maybe the worn furniture will represent antiques?

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:49 pm

Well, I believe his claim is either an old woman who is the last of a guard family or the last ordinator family, either way they have antiques of the good old days.

Yes, I think having a worn texture of rich furniture would be good to use in some cells. I don't think it would take to long either.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:19 am

In fact it would likely be quite easy, just lighten some areas (like where the dishes would go on a table). Im too rubbish to do it but I think i simple lighten brush with a small width moved rappidly across it would give a worn effect.

Amrod · Post by **Amrod** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:38 am

Where do I find these "rich" furnature textures?
I can only find normal ones. I wanna work on this though.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:45 am

I had trouble finidng them too.

They seem to be rather hidden.

Amrod · Post by **Amrod** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:46 am

I do see alot of wood textures, I guess i'll have to pick some and use those. Hmm oldwood is already pretty worn, why do we need new ones?

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:56 am

An easy way to find textures is to find the mesh name, look it up on your TESCS CD, then open it with NifTexture (on the main page under utilities). The textures used by the mesh will be listed. Also, you can use the attached utility to make copies of the existing textures and mesh so that you may retexture without the hassle of fiddling with files so much.

Amrod · Post by **Amrod** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:04 am

Heres a quick redo of the oldwood texture. Did I overdo it with those scratches??
BTW. this still needs improvement.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:08 am

I think that looks good, how does it look on a model?

Amrod · Post by **Amrod** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:19 am

Note how it seems duplicated. I've seen a nice tut about seemless textures somewhere though.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:22 am

For a first go which didnt seem to take much time, thats quite nice.

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:42 am

The only thing is, it doesn't look so much like wear and tear over the years. It looks more like a bear has attacked it. If the wear was around the edges and more like scuffs rather than scratches, it would be more true to the request. However that was pretty damn quick and the marks do look quite realistic.

Amrod · Post by **Amrod** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:52 am

Well here is an update, you will still see the pattern repeat, but its better. the only way to complete remove this or partially is by making the texture large, so that it covers the entire tabletop.

EDIT: I didnt refresh so I did not read vernons post until after I posted this.

@ vernon, I will try and make it look worn by age/use, not by an attacking bear.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:56 am

Well if you had a table that scarred you might use a tablecloth.

Maybe if we put one right in the middle it would make it less obvious and thus more realistic. Something perhaps square at a 45 degree angle to the sides so its in the middle...

Amrod · Post by **Amrod** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:09 am

Jale wrote:Well if you had a table that scarred you might use a tablecloth.

Maybe if we put one right in the middle it would make it less obvious and thus more realistic. Something perhaps square at a 45 degree angle to the sides so its in the middle...

Only problem is that the mesh is copied alot, not just twice. So wed need to resize the mesh, probally to 512x512 or maybe even 1024x1024 .

EDIT: well its proving to be quite tough (to make it look more realistic), I will continue this later, maybe vernon wants to give a try at it? or are you busy with other projects?

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:50 am

<moved to textures>

I'm pretty busy with some other stuff right now. I will see if I get a spare minute. The problem is that the top of the table needs a 1*1 map, so that there is only one texture on top. btw the texture is good, it just doesn't sound like the texture requested.

Amrod · Post by **Amrod** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:48 am

Vernon wrote:<moved to textures>

I'm pretty busy with some other stuff right now. I will see if I get a spare minute. The problem is that the top of the table needs a 1*1 map, so that there is only one texture on top. btw the texture is good, it just doesn't sound like the texture requested.

Yeah, I understand that, but i thought morrowind only display images with pixel dimensions that are multiples of 2? (ie 1,2,4,8,16,32 etc).
Since the table top isnt 1024 (too small) and definatly not 2048 (too big). we'd then need to make a new table mesh.

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:32 pm

It doesn't have to fit exactly. 1024 is also far too big, relative to the stock Bethesda textures. You might want to do 512x256 or even 256x128.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:09 pm

Just a question, isn't that a de_p table?

Amrod · Post by **Amrod** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:20 pm

Sload Lord wrote:Just a question, isn't that a de_p table?

Could be, no clue, it's about the textures though. I dunno what else mesh to use.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:10 pm

A de_r table. You should use the texture that went with the de_r table, because that is what it looked like when it was new.

Mr. Sorry of Balmora · Sun May 01, 2005 6:14 pm

well from the look of things youall are doin fine but its a bit too bear clawed need worn scuffs and
removed finish spots on table (from liquior prehaps)
also some small knife scratches

Oh thanks for the help not a remodler my self

Edit sorry bout the confusion bout msh/txt not big modder either

Starcrunch · Post by **Starcrunch** » Sun May 01, 2005 6:22 pm

Well there isn't much point in retexturing a de_p table to be old and worn, as it starts out as old and worn. You should just use the origional texture if you want to use the de_p mesh shape. If you want a fancy table that is now old and worn, you should retexture a de_r table, but probably cut down on the number of scratches.

-Starcrunch

Mr. Sorry of Balmora · Mon May 02, 2005 2:37 pm

im not a big retexturer hints the request

Mr. Sorry of Balmora · Mon May 02, 2005 3:15 pm

medium-sized manor, owned by the head of the Indoril guards in town, and his family. Owner is a distinguished general,(probably served for many years) he has a wife, two sons and a daughter, and two servants.
here is my claim if it helps