Necromic Armor

DarkEclipse · Post by **DarkEclipse** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:12 pm

Did we ever settle this? Sorry, just wondering.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:20 pm

Sort of.

I was the one with the original idea, but I have had a change of opinion. If you ask me, we should have High Ordinators in Necrom's Plaza, Temple, and Tomb entrances. The rest should be regular Ordinators.

DarkEclipse · Post by **DarkEclipse** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:35 pm

Yes, I know where We should put the Necromic Ordinators.
But I was Refering to the armor that they were supposed to wear.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:39 pm

You misunderstood me. I said High Ordinators. Like the kind that are in Mournhold. No unique armor.

DarkEclipse · Post by **DarkEclipse** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:51 pm

Oh, sorry.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:35 am

There is already a topic for discussing this. Why to create another one ?
Locked.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:05 am

Unlocked. Than topic was lost during a crash. Sorry.

DarkEclipse · Post by **DarkEclipse** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:34 pm

Yeah...that's why I made the topic anyways. But since We're just using Almalexia's High ordinators I guess this topic is through anyway.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:10 pm

Not necessarily. I don't have the final decision, the entire project does. I just think it makes more sense now that I know the entire purpose of the High Ordinators.

DarkEclipse · Post by **DarkEclipse** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:03 pm

Oh, ok. Eh, so...I noticed nobody else is here.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:18 am

Umm just one thing. The armor is fine and dandy but its called 'Her Hand's Armor'. Surely the High Ordinators in Necrom would call it something else?

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:26 am

Thats not true. Her Hand's Armour is actually just enchanted High Ordinator Armour.

Plus, I think Necrom should have its own armour style.

DarkEclipse · Post by **DarkEclipse** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:07 pm

Yay! People came! We can start arguing now.

The Armor the High ordinators wear is called, 'High Ordinator (insert armor name)'. Almalexia's personal guards wear something called, 'Her hands (Insert armor name)'. And, in addition, if we did make the necromic armor, We might have to hurry to get it in the AoT file.

Garriath · Post by **Garriath** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:50 pm

The Armor the High ordinators wear is called, 'High Ordinator (insert armor name)'. Almalexia's personal guards wear something called, 'Her hands (Insert armor name)'.

Really? Fascinating. I guess you must have your own unique copy of Tribunal, then. Try putting it up on Ebay, mayhaps? Cuz as far as I know (and my CS says,) all high ordinators use Her Hands armor.

I stated in the last thread several times why I'm against this. Heck, even the guy who suggested it has dropped the idea. Let's focus on the important stuff, methinks.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:31 pm

Umm Garriath what the hell are you talking about ? In previous thread we stopped on discussing how priesty should Necromic Ordinators aka White Guard as Sload called them should be. We decided that they will need new pauldrons and probably a robe.
And no need to hurry for now. Especially getting something in AoT.

Garriath · Post by **Garriath** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:33 pm

Umm Garriath what the hell are you talking about ? In previous thread we stopped on discussing how priesty should Necromic Ordinators aka White Guard as Sload called them should be. We decided that they will need new pauldrons and probably a robe.

Here's what I'm talking about:

Sload Lord wrote:I was the one with the original idea, but I have had a change of opinion. If you ask me, we should have High Ordinators in Necrom's Plaza, Temple, and Tomb entrances. The rest should be regular Ordinators.

I don't believe we ever 'decided' anything, and I believe the idea was dropped when Sload decided against it. My statement was speaking of what's currently the assumed standpoint of the project (as far as I know.) If you want to bring up the debate again, then that is by all means your right.

If that came off harsh, kick me, or something. You know I've a great deal of respect for your work and dedication.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:10 pm

DarkEclipse wrote:Yay! People came! We can start arguing now.

The Armor the High ordinators wear is called, 'High Ordinator (insert armor name)'. Almalexia's personal guards wear something called, 'Her hands (Insert armor name)'. And, in addition, if we did make the necromic armor, We might have to hurry to get it in the AoT file.

No, my version definitely calls all armor from Mournhold worn by the High Ordinators and Her Hands 'Her Hand's Armor' enchanted or not.

It would be childsplay to simply rename it 'High Ordinator Armor'.

Heck i can do it if you want!

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:17 pm

If we're going to do that, we might as well do a retexture, too, and call it Necrom Guard Armor or something.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:19 pm

Zalzidrax wrote:If we're going to do that, we might as well do a retexture, too, and call it Necrom Guard Armor or something.

No point, they are high ordinators. THey jsut arent ones ordained by Alamexia i guess.

DarkEclipse · Post by **DarkEclipse** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:22 pm

Wha? Oh, oops. I thought it was just called High ordinator armor. I didn't really check. Sorry.

And Yes, Garriath. I do as a matter of fact own a unique
copy of Tribunal. And yes, I will sell it on Ebay.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:22 pm

I own a unique copy of The Ledgend of Zelda: Link's Awakening. Its the Blood Edition

Yeah i sorta hd a nosebleed over it

I will make a copy of the armor tommroow morning...add it if you like.

DarkEclipse · Post by **DarkEclipse** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:25 pm

Haha, blood edition...

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:55 pm

They're all called "her hand's" which will not do in necrom. I liked the retextures posted in the old thread before it went poof!

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:02 pm

So what will the new name be?

High Ordinator?
Necromic?
High Indoril?
Indoril Officer?
Silver Indoril?

viKING · Post by **viKING** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:07 pm

Eraser wrote:They're all called "her hand's" which will not do in necrom. I liked the retextures posted in the old thread before it went poof!

The retextures wasn't to hard to make, But I think we would need some new meshes too.

Post by **Haplo** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:57 pm

I think Silver Indoril is best from that list, since the armor isn't any more special or higher than the other armor.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:12 pm

They are High Ordinators. They should be a bit above regular Ordinators, but not as powerful as Almalexia's.

I'd chose Necromic, because they're specifically for Necrom. Silver does not work because much of their armor is not silver.

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:44 pm

I was thinking some sort of stony white texture.

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:14 pm

I wish we still had the old thread.

I think a stoney white would look just right. It would match the color tone of Necrom very well.

viKING · Post by **viKING** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:03 am

I found the samples from the old thread: [img]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/joakiman/texture%20works/Test.jpg[/img]

does any of they fit for necrom?

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:00 am

if you can make the one on the left look more white I'd say that would be good.

viKING · Post by **viKING** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:03 am

I have some stuff I need to finish for tr first, then I can try to make a new texture.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:23 am

Garriath wrote:
Umm Garriath what the hell are you talking about ? In previous thread we stopped on discussing how priesty should Necromic Ordinators aka White Guard as Sload called them should be. We decided that they will need new pauldrons and probably a robe.
Here's what I'm talking about:

Sload Lord wrote:I was the one with the original idea, but I have had a change of opinion. If you ask me, we should have High Ordinators in Necrom's Plaza, Temple, and Tomb entrances. The rest should be regular Ordinators.

Umm. Sorry, haven't noticed that.
Anyway we had a discussion on IRC channel and pretty much agree on few points. Here they are:
-Ordinators of Necrom need to look more peaceful and priesty
-They will have new pauldrons, robe and probably helm (just like on concept art)
-The color of their armor will be white with gold (the same as concept)

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:01 pm

My original idea was, by the way, exactly like the one on the right.

DarkEclipse · Post by **DarkEclipse** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:56 pm

I like the one on the left. It would probably look better with the white.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:37 pm

Hmmm well, High Ordinators definatly wouldn't work, they are strictly for Almalexia, actually only for Mournhold itself, I would only recommend ever placing a High Ordinator anywhere in TR would be at the gate into Mournhold, if even that.

I've never been a big fan of retextures either, and I don't see the reason for an entirely new suit of armor.

The best way to do this is to use what exist already. If you really want to do something special for Necrom, make its guards Elite Ordinators. Elites typically wear the temple robes, so that already matches up with what some of you guys want.

The Ordinators themselves, are already very Elite, if we keep adding little special even more elite groups, the regular Ordinators will lose their effect.

Necrom would be guarded by the Order of the Watch, I don't think we need a specialized group for it.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:48 pm

Actually, only "Her Hands" are Ayem's servants. The High Ordinators are just high ordinators. Unless you can find dialogue that I couldn't.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:55 pm

Yes but their Armor still says, "Her Hand's", as far as I can remember anyways. Besides that, there is also dialog that mentions that the High Ordinators, are strictly for Mournhold. I cant find the dialog to confirm this since the CS is no longer on my computer, and all my belongings are packed up.

But I know that back when I was first organizing the ideas for a Joinable Ordinator Guild, I came to the conclusion the Player shouldnt be allowed to become a High Ordinator, they were strictly selected to serve in Mournhold. If I had doubted that, I would have added them to the rank structure, but I didn't so I know I had good reason.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:38 pm

There is reference to them guarding Mournhold and also being the police of Mournhold, but it does not say that they guard no other cities. The Necrom Plaza is arguably the holiest place in Morrowind, tied pretty much with Mournhold. Infact, I'd say Necrom is holier than Mournhold, but Lexie's an egotistic bitch.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:59 pm

And a dead bitch these days. I think you're right in saying that High Ordinators were exclusive to Mournhold, though I'm not 100% certain. In that case, Necrom's ordinators would be either the regular brand or some kind of "death guard" wing. Might be a good name for their armour, if you're changing it. And if you do, it might be nice to change the helm from the stony-faced original to some kind of ceramic mournful-looking death mask. Just an idea