Guar Races

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue May 31, 2005 8:34 pm

Would it be possible in one smallish dummer town to have Guar races? Were you place bets on Guars 1-10 and if you Guar wins you double your profits. Maybe even a quest or two about missing Guars and cheating people. Or maybe not Guars...maybe Scribes or something....

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Tue May 31, 2005 9:24 pm

I thought about this before, but then realised: That would be like racing cows. Now, who does that (besides confused farmers)?

EDIT: Why would you race a SCRIBE? Poor old men...unless this is some sort of creature I'm not aware of.

Starcrunch · Post by **Starcrunch** » Tue May 31, 2005 9:51 pm

We could have the player gamble on nix-hound races. I don't really know if nix-hounds can be trained or tamed though...could be an interesting side attraction, though I'm not sure where we'd put it.

There are a few bandit caves with hostile nixhounds that I always persumed were kept by the bandits as "pets"...

-Starcrunch

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Tue May 31, 2005 9:54 pm

didn't someone come up with this yonks ago?

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue May 31, 2005 10:02 pm

i meant Scribes not Scribs...Gee what a idiot. I was think about nix hounds...but Scribes would be really cool while Nix hounds would be creepy. I have a fear of Nix hounds, what about Kaughit? And for your info my uncle races cows, Beef cows. he does it to give the meat cows more muscle or something....
Anyway on where it could be done, It could be done in a village in the center, a big round pen. A big event every three days. And the town has few vistors so raceing does not spead.

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:02 pm

(delete this double post)

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 6:03 pm

Regarding the taming of nix-hounds, i think it would be really funny to have some crasy old man somewhere who tries to tame them and fails miserably.

Regarding the guar-racing i don't think that guars are really fast enough for racing, but some kind of other guar competitions culd be good (ploughing championships, weight-pulling, etc)

The_Writing_Wraith · Post by **The_Writing_Wraith** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:55 am

Ludovic wrote:Regarding the guar-racing i don't think that guars are really fast enough for racing, but some kind of other guar competitions culd be good (ploughing championships, weight-pulling, etc)

People race turtles, people race rats, people probably race snails somewhere or other. People will race anything, especially if there is a potential for novalty and side betting, so why not have guar races?

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:27 am

I think Erasers right, this was proposed a while back already... or maybe it was just rideable Guars...

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:08 am

I think that sports with animals might be interesting, but the problem is that they all run at the same speed.

Might be interesting to have dog fights etc. That was common in the past.

ferrigno · Post by **ferrigno** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:54 am

LMAO i race snails... well used to.. hmm guar racing, id reckon that would be a good laugh..

ferrigno.

Abramul · Post by **Abramul** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:45 am

Jale wrote:I think that sports with animals might be interesting, but the problem is that they all run at the same speed.

"setspeed x"

Have x vary race-to-race, or even during individual races.

v2k · Post by **v2k** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:26 pm

Here's Guar racing

http://www.buttersky.com/morrowind/guars/guar_race.html

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:45 pm

Abramul wrote:
Jale wrote:I think that sports with animals might be interesting, but the problem is that they all run at the same speed.
"setspeed x"

Have x vary race-to-race, or even during individual races.

I dont think it would be hard to make it a random thing, maybe even change every second or something to keep the race interesting.

Starcrunch · Post by **Starcrunch** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:50 pm

It would even be possible to make it work in accordance to the odds.

-Starcrunch

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:24 pm

Make it Guars, and don't make it a small town thing. Maybe add it to Blacklight if it gets redone.

bas · Post by **bas** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:29 pm

gambling isnt good for the younger players

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:33 pm

Oh please. It's ten times better than brothels and slave trading.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:18 pm

Sload Lord wrote:Oh please. It's ten times better than brothels and slave trading.

Im with him on this one. Its not like they are betting on fights to the death (which are implied by the Arena in Vivec). Its a small flutter on races, it happens all the time and there is worse stuff in the game. Also remember that the game is already rated Teen.

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:22 pm

You know guys, there's this neew thing out there called sarcasm, yeah, I'm not surprised you haven't heard of it because people haven't been using it for say ever, but...

bas · Post by **bas** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:28 pm

i like the idea... but i like this one more...

make an sort of an arena and let people fight in it, and if you sign a paper or something you can fight in it too. the game ends if you have less then X health, not death. only death to the npcs

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:28 pm

Everyone knows that sarcasm is a foreign language to the english!

It is very hard to convey sarcasm on boards like this, and im used to dealing iwth people on the official forums who ask 'WENS IT OUT!?!? CAN I FIGHT FROM MY HORS? I WANT TWO SWRDS!'

So i get a bit snappy

bas · Post by **bas** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:30 pm

and i am serious....

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:32 pm

And in the wrong thread! Please stay on topic.

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:32 pm

Sorry for dragging this off topic--there's already an arena quest thingie under discussion. I think the guar races should be separate from that though. maybe some of the same bookies could be involved, since they both might involve gambling.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:37 pm

It might be easier to have a betting sign rather than an NPC due to scripting...i dont know much about it though.

bas · Post by **bas** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 5:49 pm

my apologies.. i didnt know there was a topic like this..

back to topic...
i think its one he** of an scripting...
starting.. run speed.. run direction.. anouncer who says who is the winner.. (if guar 1 is over the finish you will get message one... "AND THE WINNER IS NUMBER 1".. etc for the rest)

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:07 pm

An NPC would work fine, I think. Make it so it does a random check, with say 20 different scenarios, depending on the scenario the NPC will say a different thing. You can then bet on one of say 4 guars, and a different winner depending on the times. It'd require a lot of scripting, but would be a really fun addition.

bas · Post by **bas** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:14 pm

yes true, i downloaded the morrowind scripting guide for dummies so if i am advanced enough then i will do it

... but that takes at least 3 months..

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:17 pm

I only have a basic idea of scripting but wouldnt it be possible to make them go to X point and have a timer repeadedly randomising the speeds until they reach said point?

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:38 pm

That's true. This is an idea of how the race can begin:

1. If you ask anyone in the city with the racetrack when the race will begin, they tell you to talk to someone in the building next to race track that has the person you place bets with.
2. If you talk to any non-guard in said building, they'll tell you a race is actually about to start. This topic enables the man who's supposed to tell which guar wins. He has the script on him.
3. You enter the exterior with the Guar Race Track. Because you are in the same cell as the NPC with the track's script, the script, and thus the race, begins.

Starcrunch · Post by **Starcrunch** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:49 pm

The scripting is possible. That's all I'm going to say on the matter for now...there is no need to explain it in detail or talk about it until this is decided (i.e. until the core gives this an ok, which I'm not sure they will).

-Starcrunch

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:05 pm

Guars are more of a mix between donkeys and cows.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:30 pm

mister_pricilla, please, quit spamming around. And don't ask me why I think you were spamming, and don't tell me you weren't, because you've been spamming. Posting utter uselessness in the latest threads in nigh on every board.

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How would the guars follow the race track? And how would they stay moving forward, instead of just standing around or moving backwards?

Starcrunch · Post by **Starcrunch** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 8:33 pm

Haplo, as I said this is scriptable, Guars are just like NPC's in that their movment can be controlled by scripts (of course they will be unique guars).

-Starcrunch

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:18 pm

you mean spam... I wouldn't call using "gay" as a negative adjective light-hearted.

Starcrunch · Post by **Starcrunch** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:54 pm

Honestly, stop bickering. If what you have to say is not about gaur races then don't post here. In the future Mr. Priscilla don't use the term gay as a noun or any other part of speech and we won't have these problems.

As for gaur races I would like to hear what members of the core have to say.

Thanks,
-Starcrunch

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:39 pm

Guars make more sense than Nix-hounds because people do keep guars for pets and do use them as beasts of burden. Nix hounds are just wild beasts that make for cheap meat.

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:41 pm

Nix Hounds can actually be tamed and used as guard beasts. I have encountered them working with smugglers in caves.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:43 pm

I don't think we should have any races at all - it's a very "imperial"-sounding custom to me, not to mention the morrowind engine's laughably small view distance would mean the races would have to be miniscule and lame.