Indoril Lore

storm_crow · Post by **storm_crow** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:13 am

Ok, so basically people thought the idea of putting all Dres lore together in this section was great, so I got stuck with doing the same thing with Indoril (not that it bothers me), which is basically the second Great House that no one really knows about (mainly because it holds no territory on Vvardenfell)! Finding up information on Indoril ended up being harder than Dres, because though there are many posts on indoril they're all empty of lore information...

First of all, let's start by history:
Great House Indoril was founded by Indoril Nerevar (and possibly Lady Almalexia) a long time ago. A few books from Morrowind (the game) hint towards the fact that it may have been created before the birth of Vivec (reverred be his name, LOL). The fact is, Indoril became greatly important and held much of it's power by holding strong bonds with the tribunal temple. When the imperial colonizers came along to ad Morrowind to the Empire, Hlaalu greeted them; Redoran, Dres, Indoril (and thus the temple) fought against them; and Telvanni stayed neutral. In the end Vivec, much to the surprise of Indoril, ended up signing the treaty and ending the war.
While Redoran took the side of the empire from that point, and Telvanni stayed neutral, Dres and Indoril still to this day do not accept the imperia occupation, which is probably why they ressemble each other. Anyways, the Indoril got so pissed off that many councilors suicided, and The Lord High Councilor of the Grand Council (that's temple leader) who was Indoril at the time and refused to accept the treaty or give his place away ended up being assassinated, a Hlaalu coucilor took his place. Now Hlaalu, who had been allies with the Empire all along got very wealthy and very powerful at this point, and sent bloody powerful blows to the Indoril to weaken them.
Indoril's power was greatly diminished in those days, I guess they survived because they kept powerful bonds with the temple. Also note that when the Empire opened up the door to the colonisation of Vvardenfell Dres and Indoril did not rush off to get a piece as the Temple, Hlaalu, Redoran and Telvanni did, probably another way to contest imperial authority.

It goes without saying that Indoril is today probably the most wealthy, powerful and influential Great House. It seems they have everything for itself: It was founded by Nerevar (and possibly Lady Almalexia), it's main city (Almalexia/Mournhold) is also the capital and thus most important city of Morrowind, they practically control the temple (the actual Lord High Councilor of the High councilor is Indoril, the ordinator armor is called 'Indoril'), and the Duke of Almalexia is nearly always Indoril (in fact plaza Brindisi Dorom was named after one of the dukes).
Indoril maintains little good relations with any other house, except maybe Dres who seem to have been their only ally. They despise the Empire, think lowly of every other Great House (remember their symbol is the wing) and despise more than any Hlaalu for obvious reasons. They are other than that the most zealous supporters of the tribunal temple, once again they practically control it!

Indoril's economy is supported by the Temple and the important Merchant city of Almalexia, but it is common belief that though they are the 'favored' great house, there power is waning.

please ad any other loe information you have, let's try to keep this topic as clean as possible.

Colostriph · Post by **Colostriph** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:26 am

Nice. I might point out that the "control the temple" part might have used the wrong words. Indoril has great influence over the Temple, yes. Many important Temple councilors are Indoril, yes. But the temple are usually the one's that control the Houses.

Indoril do not hate Houses in particular. Since Dres is primaraly composed of "true dunmer", it is probable that this is their strongest house ally. Hlaalu isn't an ally, however. Though some hlaalu work for the Cammona Tong, which most probably is funded and supported by Dres, Indoril does not have such alliances with the Cammona Tong.

Redoran, I am not sure of. They fought to the deaths with the Imperials, but eventually listened to Vivec's proposition. Telvanni, as you know, could care less about the other houses. Indoril does not despise them. However, many that come from Indoril mock them, calling them necromancers (only some) but Telvanni are no allies to Indoril.

You must remember, The Temple isn't its own house. Many from all five houses are part of the Tribunal temple. Telvanni, Dres, Redoran and Hlaalu. Indoril is a more dosile house, in comparison with its darker brother Dres.

But, in all, you did a good job.

Colo.

storm_crow · Post by **storm_crow** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:07 am

I'm sorry but I did mention they think 'lowly' of other houses, not that they despise them. It's simply that Indoril have a greater sense of ego than other dunmer, and let's remember as I said before that their symbol is the wing, which would represent them as higher up than the other houses. As for relations with Redoran, I don't think they're so good. While Dres and Indoril were fighting in the southern borders during the imperial invasion, Redoran was defending the western borders by itself. Redoran were very pleased not to have to stand alone against the terrible force of the imperial legion when Vivec signed the treaty, and they took the oppurtunity to quickly change sides. I think Indoril would consider this to be a betrayal, and thus do not hold the best relations with Redoran, that is if we analyse all the facts.

Jacurutu · Post by **Jacurutu** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 3:33 am

Right now, I think that House Hlaalu is probably the most powerful of the Great Houses. After they stole the lands from House Indoril (with the coming of the Empire) and expanded to Vvardenfell (recently), their power grew dramatically. However, they lack allies (except for the Empire), and the other Great Houses together could easily crush them if it weren't for the Imperials. House Indoril harbors an incredible bitterness towards House Hlaalu, one which has only festered over the years.

I doubt that House Indoril and House Redoran are bitter towards one another. Both of them support the Temple, and I believe that the Indoril respect the Redoran warriors. It seems that the Redoran are a weakening Great House (they opted to move their capital to Vvardenfell), so they can't be too picky about their allies. I'm sure that they'd ally themselves with the Indoril over the Empire or the Hlaalu.

The Indoril economy is based heavily in slaves, like the Vvardenfell Hlaalu. Their vast plantations sprawl across the fertile river-valleys of their territory, and they export a large number of crops. Because they are so reliant on slaves for their economy, they forged an alliance with House Dres (they've gotta keep the trade going).

The Indoril consider honor to be the most important part of their lives. When Vivec signed the treaty with the Emperor, many Indoril chose to take their own lives rather than suffer the dishonor of serving "their new Imperial masters." House Hlaalu took advantage of this. Anyway, the Indoril probably have a "holier-than-thou" attitude about life and politics.

storm_crow · Post by **storm_crow** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 2:05 am

Ok so i jsut read through ancestor's of dunmer which holds a bunch of interesting information on religious lore. Anyways, turns out that the great ghostfence in Vvardenfel created by the tribunal to hold in the blight is in part powered by the bones of great Indoril (and Redoran, but that's another story) warriors. They are considered holy enough to be used so (yes ghostfences are powered by bones and corpses of great people, so that the ancestors can bring power to the forcefield or something like that) because of the way the Indoril warriors courrageously fought for the defense of Morrowind. Just though this was an interesting little fact and Indoril having such an important ego and all they'd probably boast and brag about this, and maybe have this mentioned in one of the temple shrines...

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:48 am

storm_crow wrote: (mainly because it holds no territory on Vvardenfell)!

Not exactly true, Indoril controlls Vivec, which is the main city of Vvardenfell, but they don't hold much other teritory
(on a side note i once found an Indoril gard in the ashlands north of Maar Gan, probably just an easter egg though.)

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:04 am

They don't control Vivec, the temple does. Indoril != Temple. They are the most religious of the houses, but they are not the temple itself.

Ebbtides · Post by **Ebbtides** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:14 pm

Colostriph wrote: Though some hlaalu work for the Cammona Tong, which most probably is funded and supported by Dres, Indoril does not have such alliances with the Cammona Tong.

Colo.

Wasn't the Cammona Tong funded by Hlaalu/ Empire? We can assume so due to the ties of the Dren Family. House Dren would be a minor house that's been assimilated into Hlaalu, the Empire-suckling House they are.

Also, keep in mind that the Cammona Tong smuggles drugs (money, money, money... money = Hlaalu) and also is in the slaving competition with Dres.

The prototype White Book of 3E426, states that because of the Alliance with Dres (lore 100%), that all Indorils are encouraged to buy from Dres and Dres only (somehting about a discount). Now, that leaves Telvanni (which might even get thier slaves from Dres) and the Cammona Tong in the slave industry. So with these claims, I think that this backs up the bitterness between Hlaalu and Indoril.

Oh, and regarding the Redoran-Indoril dispositon, I think they both have at least some mutual respect for eachother due to the very temple based culture... (though it is VERY odd to see Boethiah's Pillow Book [book banned by the Temple... due to it's... yes...] in the Arobar Manor in Ald' Ruhn...)

Not that I'm dissagreeing with Colostriph, I'm just trying to take the lore a step further.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:23 pm

The Dren family (originally from House Drenim, possibly related to House Dres) supports the Cammona Tong, but most Hlaalu don't. The Empire certainly doesn't, as the Cammona Tong wants the Empire out.

Ebbtides · Post by **Ebbtides** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:49 pm

Ahhhh!

The theories... the theories.

But hypothetically speaking... yes, come to think of it, Hlaalu does favor the Empire...

I respectfully withdraw.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:51 pm

The only part of that which is not 100% lore proven is the fact that Minor House Drenim is related to House Dres.

Ebbtides · Post by **Ebbtides** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:22 pm

Really? Well, seems probable. Thanks for the info, I'd hate to be ingorant to some specifics. Well, since we're on the topic of Houses, is there any specific lore stating which house is acctually the strongest (wealth, military, trade)? I've been scratching my brain to figure out...

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:41 pm

Hlaalu, Telvanni, Indoril, Redoran, Dres. When the Empire falls it'll be Telvanni, Indoril, Redoran, Dres, Telvanni. If the Tribunal falls at the same time it'll be Telvanni, Dres, Redoran, Indoril, Hlaalu.

Ebbtides · Post by **Ebbtides** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:46 pm

Honestly Telvanni? Really... But their only commodity is really slaves (do they get them from Dres?), Bug Musk, and mabye a few eggmines...? What others could there be? Sure they might have significant milita force (mabye quality, not quantity) but... ack.. where does this lore come form? TIL? If so, I've been overlooking stuff.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:52 pm

It comes from logical deduction. Yes, bugmusk is a very profitable export. Their towers are probably cheaper, all they require is a few souls instead of a large amount of stone. They are not really at an economical advantage, though.

But then look at a Telvanni Master. A Telvanni Master could take down half a dozen Ordinators without a scratch. They're the kind of guys you see sending out some huge shockwave in the middle of a battle and killing half of the enemies.

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:54 pm

..that is assuming the Telvanni Masters can stop conspiring against each other long enough to work together. Doubtful, considering the fact that they spend their whole lives shrooming.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:58 pm

I think with a strong leader in charge who managed to convince them that they could take over a lot of Morrowind (especially without the Temple and Empire involved) they could do it.

Ebbtides · Post by **Ebbtides** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:05 pm

Well, I'm not too sure. Telvanni do have this cetain scary aura around them, as being mysterious and powerfull, so I'm sure not many commoners would stand up against them, but I don't think any house would like telvanni in thier lands... just look at how many people want the rogue telvanni camps pillaged... Plus, with a strong leader, there is always House War writs. (though I admit, magic users should have the best defence vs. assasins...)Anyways, I'm not too sure about that.

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:12 pm

I dunno. Therana is the most powerful Telvanni Councilor, and she's absolutely fuckin' nuts. In fact, looking at the ratio of level to insanity among the Telvanni Masters, you can see that the more powerful they are, the crazier they are. The exception is Aryon, who must have gone to detox recently. I don't think that the Telvanni bigwigs are mentally capable of trusting each other long enough to do something so major as conquor most of Morrowind, no matter what the reward.
But this is all speculation (and somewhat off-topic speculation at that).

Ebbtides · Post by **Ebbtides** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:29 pm

hah, so true... But, another question on TR lore... Therana Might be dead if you play the grandmaster writs in the Morag Tong, after you beat Dagoth Ur... you have a hit on Therana with a reward of 10,000 gold... yikes.

but just wondering if that is to be put into play for not only TR, but Oblivion... (if therana or Telvanni ever comes up)

Cjad the Nord · Post by **Cjad the Nord** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:45 am

Don't forget Divath Fyr. 4000 years of experience. Attacking the Telvanni is almost impossible. First, of all, you aren't invading Telvanni territory, you're invading each individual Telvanni Master's territory. So, you'd have to conquer each Master to really defeat Telvanni. Because of this, they are almost impossible to defeat, but won't really be inclined to go on the offensive.

House Indoril are survivors. They are so steeped in tradition, yet have assimilated themselves into the modern world which makes them incredibally adaptable. They make excellent diplomats as well as warriors. Noble Indoril Family members are trained as such, so the Elite of House Indoril are Elite indeed (think like the Duke).

By the way, it's obvious how much Hlaalu controls Vvardenfell when you look at the Duke of Ebonheart. They pretty much control not only all Hlaalu settlements, but the Imperial ones as well, doubling their territory figuratively. Though with so many people, there's bound to be a devil's advocate in the form of Orvas Dren, who everyone knows is Cammona Tong.

I really don't know the point of this post.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:16 pm

Ebbtides wrote:hah, so true... But, another question on TR lore... Therana Might be dead if you play the grandmaster writs in the Morag Tong, after you beat Dagoth Ur... you have a hit on Therana with a reward of 10,000 gold... yikes.

but just wondering if that is to be put into play for not only TR, but Oblivion... (if therana or Telvanni ever comes up)

If you don't kill or exile him for promotion in the Mages Guild, Archmage Trebonius eventually tasks you with slaying all Telvanni Masters on Vvardenfell. If/when that happens, it's quite a blow to Telvanni power. (Fyr is not on the hit list, though, but he doesn't consider himself a Telvanni anymore anyway. Likewise, the wizard of Ars-Drelen in Gnisis is another former Telvanni. Though master Aryon tasks you of convincing him to join the council, he only accept to do so eventually.)

So, while House Telvanni has an aggressive territory acquisition policy, most Telvannis are out for themselves. The house's strict isolationism and neutrality toward other factions (except the Mages' guild, their only -- and powerful -- enemy) extends to their intra-faction behavior. They aren't very loyal to their own house, neglecting and ignoring it.

And when they aren't, they just feud amongst themselves, see Fast Eddie exiled to Balmora.

xroninbasho23 · Post by **xroninbasho23** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:37 pm

Great House Indoril was founded by Indoril Nerevar (and possibly Lady Almalexia) a long time ago. A few books from Morrowind (the game) hint towards the fact that it may have been created before the birth of Vivec (reverred be his name, LOL). The fact is, Indoril became greatly important and held much of it's power by holding strong bonds with the tribunal temple.

um...not really. there are kernels of truth to be found in the sermons of Vivec, and the story of Vivec's trip to Mournhold in sermons 1, 5 and 8 make the indoril leadership clear:

Sermon 1:
"'Whom do you wait for?'

To which the netchiman's wife said the Hortator.

'Go to the land of the Indoril in three months' time, for that is when war comes. I return now to haunt the warriors who fell and still wonder why. But first I show you this.'"

house indoril was already an established power by the time Vivec was born.

sermon 5:
"A Chimeri warrior, who was protecting the caravan, said, 'Look here how the Dwemer try to fool us as ever, crafting our likenesses out of their flesh-metals. We should take this to the capital and show our mother Ayem. She will want to see this new strategy of our enemies.'"

Nerevar, as of yet, is just a knight of house indoril, serving as a hired guard to protect a caravan. the power of house indoril right now is in Mother Ayem - Almalexia.

Sermon 8:
"Ayem said to Nerevar, 'Seht who is Azura has revealed that war is come and that the Hortator that shall deliver us will approach with a solution walking at his side.'"

so we see Nerevar rise from a common soldier to a champion of house Indoril. it's clear, although it probably didn't happen this abruptly, that the only reason Nerevar came to power was by the influence he held with Vivec, being his safekeeper and student, and Almalexia, being her vassal and later lover (Almalexia was, for lack of a better word, notoriously horny - Nerevar probably gained a good amount of power by 'suiting her female need').

i'd imagine this would be important at some point.

as for the relationship with house Redoran, i would guess that there's a strong feeling of kinship. both are pious warrior-houses; remember, Redoran provides the funding for the Ghostgate services, and probably uses its geographical proximity to help maintain the Ghostfence.

--xrb23

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:08 pm

No, Vivec was also a common soldier type, who rose with Nerevar. Vivec is described as being younger than Nerevar, and a mere general whilst Nerevar became the champion and leader. Vivec must have had close bonds with Nerevar, and he certainly held those with Sotha Sil and Almalexia.

xroninbasho23 · Post by **xroninbasho23** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:57 am

well, he wasn't just a common soldier - he was a warrior-poet, or minstrel, or whatever. in any case, he was a loremaster and counselor as well as a fighter; it wouldn't surprise me if the whole "the Hortator arrives with a solution walking at his side" bit means that Vivec was recognized as a spiritual leader already, or at least an inspired individual who deserved authority of some kind. he was born the son of netchiman, and we know the Ashlanders have some considerable oral tradition, so poets and loremasters were probably held in high esteem.

--xrb23

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:53 am

I think it is safe to assume that Indoril Nerevar did NOT found Great House Indoril, a misconceptoin I have seen repeated many times actually.

However, his rise to Hortator is less clear. I think that it is very possible that this part is very untrue, because it makes it seem as if the Tribunal was already in power, and that the entire time Nerevar was but a servant, and Saint. Most conflicting reports tell us that it wasn't this way, that Nerevar was in power, and the Tribunal was his group of advisors(plus lovers and old friends).

I can see both, but I think that it is highly possible this is very fabricated.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:58 am

i read in the game that Vivec didn't start very high and I believe was either a page,scribe, or something to that effect for Nerevar, rose through the ranks as Nerevar friend to become a general. Now I may be completely wrong though.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:09 am

TÃƒÂºrelio wrote:I think it is safe to assume that Indoril Nerevar did NOT found Great House Indoril, a misconceptoin I have seen repeated many times actually.

I could have sworn it said somewhere that he definitely did and Ayem might have done so with him? Why do you disagree?

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:30 am

Sload wrote:
TÃƒÂºrelio wrote:I think it is safe to assume that Indoril Nerevar did NOT found Great House Indoril, a misconceptoin I have seen repeated many times actually.
I could have sworn it said somewhere that he definitely did and Ayem might have done so with him? Why do you disagree?

Because, my impression has always been that the Great House have been around for a very long time, before Nerevar's time, probably either founded sometime after Veloth's Journey or even perhaps in some form before then.

Also, I have never recalled it ever saying he founded the House, just that he became it's leader as well as Hortator of all the Great Houses. I just seems weird to me that the House Dunmer Culture would be so new at that point and have already elected a leader for them all.

Also, I can see where the misconception would be easy to make, most would see just his Surname and autoassume that he founded it, I've actually seen that used as an arguement before I believe...

I could be wrong, but I cannot remember ever having read in anything official that he founded it... so I guess that is my main reason...

I've not read every book at TIL(well... I don't think so), but I've read my share fair, and the important ones usually pertaining to Nerevar, so... yea.

Edit: If you're sure than show me what's convinced you... because then I've been wrong more than several times

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:40 pm

I would have to agree that Nerevar didn't found House Indoril beacaus the great houses had been around for a long time. there are also a lot of names around in the games that have names of other houses in them. This doesn't meen that they founded the houses just that there family is somehow closly connected with the housem, which is what I think Nerevars family was.

xroninbasho23 · Post by **xroninbasho23** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:21 pm

[url]http://til.gamingsource.net/history/merethic.shtml[/url] is a timeline of prehistory in tamriel: it states that in the 'middle merethic era' Veloth left for Morrowind. [url]http://til.gamingsource.net/history/1.shtml[/url] is the timeline of tamrielic history in the first era. it states that in the first era, 240, Skyrim began its raids into the land already known as the realm of the Chimer and Dwemer; it wasn't until 401 that Nerevar was marked as a powerful historical personage fighting the Nords. therefore, on an extremely conservative estimate we give them 200 years prior to Nerevar in which they may have founded the houses proper; in any case it states in 'The War of the First Council':

The Orthodox Houses, widely dispersed and poorly organized, suffered defeat after defeat until Nerevar was made general of all House troops and levies.

therefore, there were numerous Houses at the time, and considering how powerful Indoril already seemed to be (again referring back to the sermons), it would appear that Chimer House culture already existed for some time, and House Indoril along with it.

now, Nerevar certainly did found the First Council with representatives from all the Houses and clans, but i don't see why he should have been the one to found House Indoril. the onus of proof, i think, is on those who insist that he founded the house.

--xrb23

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:50 am

Just because there were houses doesn't mean there was House Indoril. I know I've read somewhere that he founded it, but it might not have been lore.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:59 am

Sload wrote:Just because there were houses doesn't mean there was House Indoril. I know I've read somewhere that he founded it, but it might not have been lore.

Well you may be right. I can't really disprove that theory, I doubt that it would stay explicitly in Lore that he did NOT found the House. So at best we would need to prove that it does by finding where it says he has. I cannot recall it ever saying anything like this, so I have no idea where to start...

it may be very possible it wasn't lore, I mean considering that I am right and he didn't found Indoril, than we can see that by the poster of this thread and yourself that it must have come from somewhere, or it was just a conclusion drawn by someone and never really confirmed, and other might have taken it for fact.

What other guild mentions the person who founded it? I am sure that the person we have as founding Dres is assumed, and not confirmed, where there any others?

Eek · Post by **Eek** » Tue May 09, 2006 8:21 pm

Oh... my first spoken words here...

I think it's mentioned somewhere in one of the books on Nerevar that he rose to power as a Indoril noble and after that was proclaimed Hortator. Which should mean that Indoril wasn't founded by him.

And on the Telvanni issue discusse:

I really don't believe that the Telvanni would bother grabbing power if either the Empire or the Temple falls. As long as neither of those two factions directly interfeers with Telvanni buissness they will be left alone I believe

And some more crap:

As for the Indoril power it's quite obvious that they are a vaning house, together with Redoran that is and mayby Dres as well. Indoril and Redoran because of the fall of the Tribunal temple(Reformation mayby is better) though I would think that the Redoran will be able to adapt to the new Temple more easily thanks to the part they played in the last part of the war against Dagoth Ur. Indoril on the other hand is more Oh-I-am-chosen-by-Alamalexia-and-I-am-so-GREAT and also the need of Ordinators is vaining since the Dunmer have no badass enemy anymore. Dres will probably vain because of the soon to come abolition of slave-trading in Morrowind but may be able to easily adapt to the new temple though.

Hlaalu is the great power of Morrowind and will thrive under the Empire or without it due to their great economy and diplomatic skills and Telvanni is most likely to just expand a little more in the wilderness.

Post by **Haplo** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:35 pm

Shouldn't we do something with this thread? It seems kind of unneeded here. I think we should send a copy of it over to Silgrad Tower or the Rebuild Vvardenfell project, unless everyone objects?

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Thu May 18, 2006 8:38 pm

Nah. Here's to hoping it will come in useful.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:50 am

Indoril isnt the strongest house anymore. The many suicides following the hlallu bacstab and the imperial occupation, as well as their refusal to ally with the imperials, and the ever-decreasing power of their fellow temple allies significantly weakened them. Hlallu IS in power now. they have imperial support, are somehow allied with House Dres, and got a pretty leet economical strenght.

By the time the world reach the Oblivion storyline, Indoril lays in ruins, thansks to the plottings of hlallu helseth, the Hlallu house, and the Dres as well. It is also mentioned in Oblivion that Redoran suffered a somehow similar fate, leading to believe that Indoril and Redoran Were still good allies and fought aside, falling all the same.

Yeah, sure, Oblivion isnt Morrowind, but I dare to believe that Bethesda made its latest game as beeing canon...

So, in the actual Morrowind time, Indoril is there, but weakened. This weakness is confirmed by the fact that it will fall on a relatively short scale. Telvanni remained, as always, neutral.

That was my first post ever on this forum. hope i didnt make a foul of myself, or simply repeat what was already agreed on by the whole community...

*activate the rock-n-tomato deflector, just in case*

Harke the Apostle · Post by **Harke the Apostle** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:17 pm

Xel wrote: That was my first post ever on this forum. hope i didnt make a foul of myself, or simply repeat what was already agreed on by the whole community...

Are you a necromancer? This thread started 20 1/2 months ago.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:47 pm

it was august 27. I just didnt noticed it was august 27th 2 years ago...

High Lord Xenor · Post by **High Lord Xenor** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:03 pm

earlier someone said that house telvani was the most powerful house(if the temple and empire fell). I agree. every one knows the 6th house is fairly powerful. I believe that somewhere in Great House Telvani there is a connection with the 6th House. I came to notice this while exploring the tower dungeon of Tel Branora. while exploring i found a room lighted with red candles and decorated in the 6th house fashion. So Telvani and the remnents of 6th House could easily take on the rest. unless all the others grouped together wich is almost impossible due to disputes.

This is based only on opinion and discovery of places.

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