The Elder Scrolls .com codex says:
Ebony weapons are made from a rare form of volcanic glass
and:
Daedric weapons are made from ebony which has been refined using the craft and magical substances of the lesser minions of Oblivion
Couldnt there be, either as a shopkeeper or other item, like an activator in a dadric shrine or a volcano, some way to turn glass weapons into ebony, and ebony into daedric. For something that good it needs a high price of some sort, or be hard to find, but i think it fits in with lore according to elderscrolls.com
obviously it couldnt work with enchanted items, and maybe the new weapons will ruin this idea too
Glass and ebony are different types of glass so saying 'cant you turn one into the other' would be like trying to change polystyrene into polythene. You cant do it without altering the chemistry. There are many chemicals which can be used to make glass.
Turning ebony into dadric can only be performed witht he torment of dadra by daedra, i believe.
How would that be disturbing? with the outrageous numbers of deadric worshippers inhabiting morrowind, i would think that it should have happend long before the nerevarine was brought there!
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Yeah I am pretty sure of that. I think as far as any of this should go is being able to make glass items from glass and ebony items from ebony, but no further.
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Daedric weapons are made from ebony which has been refined using the craft and magical substances of the lesser minions of Oblivion. The process is not a pleasant one for the Daedra involved, and the weapons retain echoes of preternaturally prolonged suffering endured during manufacture. Daedric weapons are the most rare and expensive weapons known in Tamriel.
Doesn't sound like it's made in Oblivion. I think a very interesting quest idea could be invented about a Telvanni making Daedric items. What about Mistress Faruna?
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You mean "which has been refined using the craft and magical substances of the lesser minions of Oblivion." I interpret this to mean that they take Daedra and somehow soultrap them into these weapons. This would be a very hard task, which accounts for the items' rarity.
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No, see here's how I see it:
Using "the craft" of the minions of Oblivion means that Daedra are involved in the actual smithing proscess. Yes, some lesser Daedra are soulbound to the weapons, but there is a not-so-lesser Daedra in there too with a hammer and anvil, forging these things. That would explain quite nicely why all Dremora come through wearing full Daedric armor, while there is only a handfull of Daedric armor pieces in Morrowind. Same thing with the weapons.
I would like to see someone (probably a dremora) who would take ebony, gold, and full soul gems, and make daedric armor from them. Would have to be ridiculously expensive and hard to find, of course.
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I really think we should keep the manufacutre of Daedric weapons/armor a secret. I always had the sense they were made long ago... they are the heirlooms of ancient houses passed down through generations, sometimes lost in ruins but always treasured as priceless artifacts. I think some of the mystique and wonder that goes with posessing daedric equipment is lost when it becomes a matter of finding someone and manufacturing it. These are nearly the best items in the game (and some of them are the best in their type (pauldrons and greaves)).
okok dexter is right, Daedra lords are the creators of daedric artifacts according to Darkest Darkness "Worshippers may bind other Daedric servants to this plane through rituals and pacts." and "lesser entities bound by their Daedra Lords into weapons and armor may be summoned for brief periods, or may persist indefinitely, so long as they are not destroyed and banished."
Yup im not saying we are going to have someone making Daedric Weapons, just that there should be some wizard somewhere having a crack at it, and failing miserably.
I spoke to Dexter over AIM (read: argued with Dexter) and he spoke to Majra, I think the general idea is that an incredibly powerful man or mer (like a Telvanni Magister) could create Daedric weaponry, but it was almost always created by Daedra, who can basically clap their hands to create an ebony weapon and then grab a cuple scamps and shove them into it.
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Aengoth the Jeweler, in the last mission he gives you if you're a thieves' guild member, asks you to retrieve four Darts of Judgement. He explains to you, IIRC, that these rare darts are made in Valenwood, by bosmer craftsmen.
"They're very rare arrows made in my home province of Valenwood"
Someone who doesnt know the distinction between arrows and darts isnt likely to know the distinction between something exported from Valenwood (where there might be a relative abundance of shrines containing darts) and something actually made there.
Why is it that almost no Dremora uses a daedric weapon? I don't know about you but I always found it odd that a Daedra wearing full Daedric armor would be using a glass staff, dwarven claymore, or an Iron warhammer.
Jale wrote:"They're very rare arrows made in my home province of Valenwood"
Someone who doesnt know the distinction between arrows and darts isnt likely to know the distinction between something exported from Valenwood (where there might be a relative abundance of shrines containing darts) and something actually made there.
Good point. Though in the version of the game I have (French translation), he doesn't talk about arrows, IIRC.
Saibot wrote:Why is it that almost no Dremora uses a daedric weapon? I don't know about you but I always found it odd that a Daedra wearing full Daedric armor would be using a glass staff, dwarven claymore, or an Iron warhammer.
There's a mod that gives them bound weapons. It makes them tougher, and removes any looting potential... (The mod also give them more spells, notably spells that summon lesser daedra).
Yes it would have been better to have them all with bound weapons.
That was straight from the english version, so while it may have been fixed during translation the devs obviously made a slip which goes to slow that anyone can make a slip such as saying they were made rather than found.
I think Sload/Omicron summed it up pretty well in his last post in this thread. I also agree with Starcrunch, the forgning of Daedric weapons should become a mystery and they are so rare and there's so little lore on how they are forged that it's even the best thing to do lorewise. On top of that, I don't see anyone currently alive on Tamriel powerful enough to make them.
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Anyway, no, daedric weapons should remain as artifacts. being able to forge them yourself would destroy their sense of rare wonder.
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I have to chime in on the idea of some one TRYING to create a daedric weapon, maybe not in a quest, but imagine this:
You walk into a cave full of torn apart scamps, blood and really disturbing devices (and i mean REALLY disturbing) Over the body of a dead Telvanni mage stands a (named?) dremora lord.
If you ransack the cave you find his journal intricaly explaining his torture of these daedras (even more gruesomness)
You could even have the dremora say something and then dissapearing with a Poof.
That aught to leave players 1: scared/freaked and 2: Humbled by the great, named Dremora he just happend to walk in on.
and i do think HUMBELING players is very much needed after spanking 3 gods in a row. (as some players whos played all the mainquest tend to have)
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They do? I always considered the 'outsiders' Dremora etc, to be the worse of the worse Goblins were cheep scapes, then again most things were when i got to fighting goblins (level 35-40)
Dremora are higher. Goblins arent really daedra just evil little buggers. Scamps used to be really powerful but theey got bitchslapped...just read the Sermons of Vivec. Search for Pennants.
It wouldn't really be the Dremora that would humble you, but the entire experiance in itself. If came across something like that I'd leave with a whole new perspective.
I think that only Daedra should be able to make them.
However I think tht if the player completes the MG in all areas then he should have some 'uber' quests including forging an artifact like the Staff of Magus.
Maybe some daedric weapon/ armor look a likes could be forged. they should look and be the same weight as the daedric variant ecept dmg and hp be the same as ebony due to the fact of the souls that haven't put in.
