Making a Video for TR?

[Upsilon]

Maybe we could make some videos for quests, like in Bloodmoon?

UPS

[Sload]

I'm personally more worried about making the quests the video would be for.

[Upsilon]

Yes, it would be a bit long. Well, if we make a very big quest one day, perhaps we could integrate some videos in it...

UPS

[Stalker]

It would be really nice to have videot for Bal Oyra quest...

[Massalinie]

I think it would be a good thing to do, if its done consistently not just blobbed on a few random quests here and there, and if we have someone with the time, software and skill to be able to do it.

[Upsilon]

I suggest that we design a team to do that video. One people can't do it alone, I think. It's better if someone with great talent in modeling uniting his strengh with someone of great talent in animating.

UPS

[Massalinie]

well then what we need is some volunteers and some ideas of what videos should be done.

[Upsilon]

Ok, so what we need to do is to recruit volunteers to do those movies. How will we do that? We'll need people to know there is an opportunity to make a movie. I think this topic alone wont be enough, we might have to "campaign"...

Also, we would need the Bal Oyra quest explained here in this topic so that the volunteers can know what is awaiting them.

UPS

[The_Warder]

i like this idea if only i could do something.

[Upsilon]

Here's Inferno_str1ke description of the Bal Oyra quest as he wrote it on Jun 21, 2004, in this [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=2309&highlight=bal+oyra+quest]topic.[/url]
I suggest you read the whole topic.

Alot of talk has surrounded this quest, and I am proud to call it the first major new town story of Tamriel, as it was made up almost a year ago! The time has come to detail the quest now, if you wish to see the story then visit the Bal Oyra thread in the Group Map 1 forum.

Quest Title: Bal Oyra

Questmaker Name(s): Inferno_str1ke, Geowulf, Greybeard

Story: see Bal Oyra thread

NPC's Involved: Gillan Llarethi, Mistress Rathra, Meritius Vinnius, unnamed Blades member, Firewatch governor, others

Locations Involved: Bal Oyra, Tel Ouada, cave, Firewatch garrison

Dialouges: unwritten

Additional Information: This is how the quest functions

So, the scene is set. When the player arrives in the imperial census town of Bal Oyra he will be told by local Dunmer upon greeting, that there are rumours that Gillan Llarethi is still plotting. This will mean little to the player, but if he asks further he will hear the story of how the town was taken over by Imperials, but then taken back by blackmailing Meritius into selling his people as slaves. When the name Rathra is mentioned, the player will be told of how Master Rathra declined to help the rebels, but how his daughter Novryna fell in love with Gillan and taught him magic. Only if the player talks to one of Novryna's household will he find out exactly how this love came about. The player will be informed by the Dunmer of Oyra (whether or not the player asks about Llarethi) that Gillan appears to have been absent from his lighthouse for some time. From imperial citizens, the player will hear that the captain of the guard is looking for outside help in a small 'matter.' And from the latest rumours dialogue, players will hear of suspicions about a new clotier in town.

Now is where the player makes a small choice - will they visit the imperials, the lighthouse, or check out this suspicious clothier.

The player chooses the imperials and is led to the captain of the guard, who will give the player a small quest to test his honesty - it will involve a standard smuggler hunt, some smugglers have not given thier payment for Meritius' blind eye on thier last shipment, and he wants it. You can kill, steal or intimidate to get it. After this comes a real choice, will the player speak with Meritius? Once he has heard the plan, he cannot choose to go back, lest he be killed by the guards, so this is where they can make the irreversible choice to fight for meritius.

The player choose the lighthouse, and when there finds Gillan not there, but a map showing the location of the rebel cave. En route the player will be acosted by a 'hermit' who tells him to gai their trust by springing a member of the rebels from the Oyra jail. After this the player will meet Gillan in the (now unlocked -script) cave (where Gillan and his rebels make their plans), and will have to make a choice here. If he decides to join he cannot go back, or Rathra will have the Morag Tong execute him.

The player visits the stranger. He finds out that the stranger is a Blade, trained by Caius Cosades. The player must show the Blade Caius' ring, or get proof of identity from another Blade back on Vvardenfell. Once the Blade trusts the player, he will tell about the Blades' interest in smuglers (the player cannot find out the real plan yet). He sends the player to gather information from the fort. After this has been attained, the player must make a choice, does he want in on the Blades mission? If he chooses so, he will be told the real reason that the Blades are there (they want Meritius out, and need proof). If the player does choose to hear this, he cannot go back, so now is working for the Blades.

So, the player by now has 'joined' one faction.

Next stage is to figure out all the dialogues, scripts and quest items that will be used for this first stage. Once all the first stage is complete, we can get three separate teams working on each of the three routes through the quest.

It's probably outdated but it's what I've found. In this early version of the quest, I can't see how we could make a video out of it...

i like this idea if only i could do something.

Then why don't you tell us what you aspect of the movie would like to do? Do you have special skills that can be used in this movie?

UPS

[Sload]

You know, technically, the Bal Oyra quest was never approved, nor actually finished. All we have is that quote of the beginning of the questline and a member who pops in every month to post a few words about totally unrelated things.

I think we need to take this quest and rewrite it to make it more interesting. (OMG! What does he mean? He means: "I think that we need to take this quest and rewrite it to make it more interesting." That does not mean "I think we should through away the Bal Oyra quest and not have the city change hands.")

I also think that there are a lot better things to do than to make a movie. The only thing that would make it better than in-game would be if you could do it fancier and cinamatic like..and I'm pretty sure anyone who can do that probably can do something that would be way more useful than making a movie.

[Upsilon]

Thanks for your opinion, Omicron.

ADDITIONAL CONTENT ADDED BY REQUEST OF OMICRON : I agree, the quest didn't seem to be quite complete. BUT, that WAS NOT the purpose of this topic. I wanted to discuss whether or not we could make a video for a quest. If this quest is not applicable, we'll take another one, or we'll wait until some big quest is made.

UPS

(Wow, I edited this post 5 time in total, my record!)

[Sload]

If you're going to acknowledge my opinion could you atleast tell me that I'm wrong for some reason? Usually people just ignore it if they aren't going to argue with it.

[Vernon]

I think a few people at TR could make such a thing, but personally, I would really have to care a hell of a lot about the quest to go through making something like the Bloodmoon video. If there was an MQ, hmm maybe, but right now, there is nowt. Again, our attention should be turned to other matters for now. If we need such a thing later, it can be added, but right now there is no reason to make one. Cool idea, though.

[Upsilon]

Ok, so we'll just keep this idea for a better time...

[Swiftoak]

What about throwing some vids in the TR main quest (if the issue has been decided of yet...)

[Anonymous]

All we would be able to do really is have a few fly-bys of areas with a voiceover.

[Swiftoak]

Printing screen a gazillion times will not help.... It makes it look ugly, and displays text messages below....

[Anonymous]

Errrrrm no I mean proper recording programs...someone made a video like that before. Not too long ago in fact. DivX.

[Swiftoak]

What about WMM? Slideshows with cool effects?!

[Anonymous]

Maybe for a trailer, but if we are putting any videos in TR it would have to be high quality stuff, at least as close as we can get it to the MW ones.

[Swiftoak]

WMM IS HQ. If saved as a HQ file.

[Anonymous]

Can you think of a situation where a slideshow would fit? I can't.

Well possibly in the bit with Bal Oyra where it all gets overgrown.

[The_Writing_Wraith]

Change each image in the slide show it to look like an illistration or engraving, add voice narration, and you have a fairly nice video.

Always remember: when all else fails, stylize.

[Upsilon]

What I'd really like to do is like the videos in Bloodmoon. There were some static images, that could have been jpegs that were imported in the video and then animated within a video editing software. There were also some videos, for example, the werewolf rising. Those, I believe had no backgrounds. The footage only included the caracter. This could have been done with a chroma key. They could have animated it within 3ds max, then rendered it with a 250 blue background and then chroma key it! I've done it once, it works very well. With a nice arangement, and nice audio as well, this could make a very cool video... I don't think we need to take in game images for that kind of videos.

Anyway, if you guys decide to make a video some day, please, PLEASE, tell me. I'd like to work on the audio track, if possible.

UPS

[Inferno_str1ke]

Nice idea, I wish you the best of luck. If theres anything more you want to know, then just ask

And if anyone wants to help me with some scripts for Oyra quest, then I need one to make someone walk along a set path, rather like Fargoth in Seyda Neen.

[Swiftoak]

If someone can send me the music they used for the theme, I could start making one, or i could jsut use some songs from MW.

[ThreadWhisperer]

I do not have time right now, but looks like right now is not needed. So I will offer to do what I can when a time is found for this. I have several video editing programs as well as the full licensed version of FRAPS and have done in-game "cut scenes" for my project as well as video trailers. I also have an animation program that I can work with to "smooth" sceens and create transitional animations that are not possible in game such as characters standing up etc.

A quality cut scene of about 15 - 30 seconds of video can take me as long as 4 weeks to complete properly with high standards and "complex" material. A quality "simple" cutscene as in straight in-game footage and voice overs etc I could do in a few days time or less depending on length and detail etc etc.

So anyway when/if the time comes for something like this feel free to contact me and find out if I have the time to give then.

[Kretterz]

I made one in about 5 mins ,the graphics arent too good, but I can deal with them, Also the little icon in the top left corner can be removed easily if i was to make these properly, anyway there it is. But i have no idea how 2 load it up on to the web... help?

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