Dwemer Clothing

Ashstaar · Post by **Ashstaar** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:57 pm

Here is my idea for some clothing or light armor maybe. Take the Dwarven spectre mesh and cut up the body parts. Get it to be solid not transparent and either add the textures to new meshes or get the original meshes to work somehow. Then you could wear some fine Dwemer clothing as there is none.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:04 pm

You see there's absolutly no reason Dwemer would have made their clothing resistant to time...

Ashstaar · Post by **Ashstaar** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:09 pm

Stalker wrote:You see there's absolutly no reason Dwemer would have made their clothing resistant to time...

what does time have to do with it?

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:35 pm

Ashstaar wrote:
Stalker wrote:You see there's absolutly no reason Dwemer would have made their clothing resistant to time...
what does time have to do with it?

The fact that it would have rotten till now.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:55 pm

Dwemer clothing would have indeed rotten away by now. Would be interesting to see an acting troupe with Dwemer costumes, though.

ookami · Post by **ookami** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:59 pm

Their books seem to have survived fairly well, though. Perhaps there's a Dwemer tailor's manual and design book somewhere. Of course, almost anything to do with the Dwemer is treading into dangerous lore territory (where it is better not to tamper).

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:20 pm

Why not? We need more robes, anyway. Since the Dwemer are Aldmeri outcasts, the Altmer might have adapted the style into their own clothing.

Ashstaar · Post by **Ashstaar** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:51 pm

Yes, I agree that the cloth would likely rot but the Dwemer made things to last time. It could simply be used for a quest. An "artifact" type garment.

The Old Ye Bard · Post by **The Old Ye Bard** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:59 am

it doesnt Necessarly mean that it would rot, what if it had slightly oxided does anyone get where i'm going with this
but also i dont really think we should put dwemer clothing in concestantly because has anyone actualy seen any in the original game the answer is a simple straight no if we where i'd go with ashstaar's idea and make it an "artifact". wait i just got the coolest idea if it was going to be an artifact, get this "the tunic of living flame" we could make it so that when you wear it your torso becomes smothered in flame and it makes you completly resistant to fire attacks it could also double as a light but as a downside any ingrediants in your inventory would be burned to nothing except fire salts, firpetals and ash.
and maybe i'm getting carried away here but to get it, it might be a final gift for getting the highest rank in the imperial archeological soceity, maybe its an excavation and you get the choice of getting "the tunic of living flame" or some random other thing. ok maybe i went overboard, sorry

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:27 am

Ashstaar wrote:Yes, I agree that the cloth would likely rot but the Dwemer made things to last time. It could simply be used for a quest. An "artifact" type garment.

Stalker wrote:You see there's absolutly no reason Dwemer would have made their clothing resistant to time...

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:25 am

*pats Sload on the head*
Now go and check Striker's article in FSG section of TIL <- directed to Sload only

Ashstaar · Post by **Ashstaar** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:39 pm

Hmmm....

Asylum · Post by **Asylum** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:36 pm

i think we should focus on new robes then on something like this.

rowa · Post by **rowa** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:08 am

ookami wrote:Their books seem to have survived fairly well, though. Perhaps there's a Dwemer tailor's manual and design book somewhere. Of course, almost anything to do with the Dwemer is treading into dangerous lore territory (where it is better not to tamper).

Yea,if their books survived why can't their clothing?

Saibot · Post by **Saibot** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:10 am

Books don't decay at the same rate cloth does.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:14 am

And, as Asylum said, there are better clothes to be making and better things to be discussing..so yeah, I'm going to post more and be a hypocrite.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:53 pm

I've got some input on this, so hear me out.

Observing the Dwemer ruins, specifically the construction, indicates they're extremely crafty with preservation of certain items. For some reason, they have schematics and plans lying about that rots at nearly the same rate clothing does, only slightly more faster. (single sheets of paper will decompose much quicker than cloth will in the right enviroment) This leads us to believe that the Dwemer are skilled in not only metal preservation, but in just about everything else. The moisture in these ruins must be astronomical, they have steam grids running about and even water in some places. The insects, bacteria and other decomposers would flock to these ruins only to seek out the perishables for a tasty treat. They know not of the role they play in the ecosystem, they're just hungry. If the paper can survive in such a hostile enviroment, why can't simple pieces of cloth?

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:00 pm

I have already explained it. They don't have a reason to make their clothes resistant to time. Not a single. Just like matrasses or their beds.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:23 pm

Stalker wrote:I have already explained it. They don't have a reason to make their clothes resistant to time. Not a single. Just like matrasses or their beds.

I forgot about those! Forgive me for not remembering these. However, since they're all heavily armored why not just make the clothing themselves armor? Rare sets of Dwemer king's clothing that's armored in itself. Surely there were different classes in the Dwemer society, the peasant clothing has no reason to last but why not make the magnificent nobles have robes that would last for centuries? Maybe a quest to restore one such piece of cloth into it's former glory? The jewels and bits of trinkets would survive for a very long time, but the cloth would decay for sure.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:08 am

A replica maybe. They have drawings and can see ghosts. It wouldnt survive in any meaningful form...fragments at best.

wishmaster · Post by **wishmaster** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:16 am

Ey, what about leather clothes? Dosen't leather last long?

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:21 am

Yes, better than fabrics. But did the dwemer use leather?

wishmaster · Post by **wishmaster** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:29 am

No, you're right. Don't think they used rough clothing like leather. Maybe they had invented Fleece clothing? I've heard that they last long.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:34 am

3500 years?

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:34 am

Somehow I cant see the Dwemer hurrying along as their beards frizz up with the static

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:17 am

Jale wrote:Somehow I cant see the Dwemer hurrying along as their beards frizz up with the static

Hahaha, if I had a signature that would go in it.

I don't think Dwemer clothing would last, though, as all the feedback against it seems far too convincing; a lot of valid points and intelligent thought. A replica sounds good, perhaps a ancient Dwemer tailor's manual (as previously mentioned by... ookami) added in with a quest for a collector.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:53 am

[img]http://til.gamingsource.net/bestiary/large_DwemerSpecter-Morrowind.jpg[/img]
[img]http://til.gamingsource.net/mwbooks/EggOfTime_Illust2.jpg[/img]

Good idea for a IAS quest...find the garment shop in Kemel-Ze, filled with duty remains of course, find a book, get a few ornamental jewelry bits (in little boxes), give them to a master tailor, get a dwemer robe for display!

Though we would need someone who can draw like a Dwemer, and a model for a little dwemer jewelry box.

ookami · Post by **ookami** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:50 am

The idea about that occured to me because of all those instruction manuals found in Bamz-Amschend (in Tribunal). Perhaps a scholarly (though not particularly brave) tailor could ask the player to find an illustrated (or just text saying that the book is about this or that like most of the other Dwemer books) book on Dwemer tailoring techniques and clothing. It could make for a nice little quest as Jale described.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:35 pm

I posted in the IAS thread an idea for a quest...basically you just get assigned to inspect a tailor shop and then find the plans...eventually you get a tailor to make some robes.

Ashstaar · Post by **Ashstaar** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:39 am

Well...since I originally made this post I will say this: it was just my idea to contribute something original to the project since so much has been done already. As has been discussed and dismissed above I intended it as a relic type garment. And if you look closely at the dwemer spectre the garment appears to have quite a bit of metallic substance. Anyway...we need quests right? and we need clothing right? so that was the idea. I did find a dwemer reskin of the exquisite robe(hortator)at Morrowind Summit: Rare Robes or Xanadorf's Rare Robes? something like that. I like it!...you guys are great.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:09 pm

[url=http://elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=1032]Xanondorf's Rare Robes Collection[/url], actually. Here at ElricM because I don't like Summit (more precisely, I don't like having to register at Fileplanet to download stuff).

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:24 pm

Jale is my favorite. Ever.

At any rate, the Dwemer robe would be of the same construct of the Dunmer, correct? What do they use? The materials should be similar, but to initiate the quest just find the rotted remains of the robe's metal decorative part (chain mail parts, perhaps collections of jewels and such) and then it adds a new topic. (something like "strange dwemer scrap") From there, one of the tailors would respond to the topic and instruct the player to find whatever is needed for the reconstruction... sound about right?

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:50 pm

So like a tattered pile of dregs? That could work...so you find it then are sent back to find the plans, and the other parts.

Nice idea.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 4:14 am

Thank you, but the area would have to be secret... TR's very own little secret "easter egg" for all the players.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:20 am

Why secret? It just needs to be newly discovered in Kemel-Ze, behind a landslide or something.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:36 am

A secret landslide, Jale.

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:22 pm

Jale wrote:I posted in the IAS thread an idea for a quest...basically you just get assigned to inspect a tailor shop and then find the plans...eventually you get a tailor to make some robes.

And man do we need better robes!

Err, where is that thread? I can't find it...

Edit: Here, Dwemer runes and all. I did this on my computer, so it looks very photoshop-ish.

[url]http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3862/dwemerrobecopy0qp.jpg[/url]

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:24 pm

Morgoth, I'm pretty sure I'm jealous of you... that's an awesome idea for a robe! Can you get the Dwemeri writing on it and all? I'd love to see a rough prototype of what it would look like.

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:45 pm

Etz wrote:Morgoth, I'm pretty sure I'm jealous of you... that's an awesome idea for a robe! Can you get the Dwemeri writing on it and all? I'd love to see a rough prototype of what it would look like.

Sure, I'll try it today. My texturing is far from great, but like you said, just a "rough prototype".

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:43 pm

Morgoth wrote:Sure, I'll try it today. My texturing is far from great, but like you said, just a "rough prototype".

Take all the time you need to get it fairly right. From there we can tweak it a bit.