Thinking of leaving TR

The Old Ye Bard · Post by **The Old Ye Bard** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:08 am

I am thinking of leaving TR after having being sent abusive messages sent to me from "Someone not to be named" saying that all of my work that i do is bad, this makes me feel like crying. i will be taking one to two weeks off to think about this, oh and by the way i suffer depression so the person who sent me this has made me feel really bad about myself and it makes me feel really crappy inside, i have tried to commite suicide before.

if i decide leave i will finish off all of my claims first, i will try and finish them with the best effort i can.

when i come back i will make my decision.

P.s. "someone not to be named" you could have said this in a nicer way, but unfortunatly you lack what i call "people skills", also to everyone else please don't try and guess who the person is i will not tell you, if the person fells like saying the person shall.

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:29 am

The Old Ye Bard wrote:I am thinking of leaving TR after having being sent abusive messages sent to me.

Are you serious? I am sorry you suffer from depression, but come on. I know who this mysterious person is, and I know the circumstances under which those messages were sent, and I will say this, it was purly constructive critiscism. If a little constructive critiscism makes you feel like committing suicide, that's your own problem. Just take it like a man and get on with life. I have done some great work for TR and some really terrible work, and I'll be the first to admit it when I submit something stupid. It's called trying to be humble. Maybe you could treat this as a learning experiance and benefit from it. If you wish to leave TR, that is your own decision, however I do not think it would be wise on your part do do so because of such a small matter.

The Old Ye Bard · Post by **The Old Ye Bard** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:33 am

i can take critizem but the way the person went about it was mean.

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:53 am

The Old Ye Bard wrote:i can take critizem but the way the person went about it was mean.

You have just contradicted yourself. In your first post, you specifically said that what this "person" wrote was much nicer than your rendition of the event. Anyway, I would not care in the least if such a thing had been said to me, rather I would try to fix my mistake and to improve the quality of my work. PersonX (we'll just call him that, shall we?} was not saying your work is bad, he simply stated that it was not something that TR is likly include. It's as if I were to suggest Light-sabers in Eot or something. It just isn't TR's style. In any case, I'm not going to argue the matter.

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:11 am

You should be at TR for your own enjoyment, not for what someone else thinks.
And do me a favor and PM me the name of "Someone".

Vegor · Post by **Vegor** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:57 pm

If people are rude, insulting or behave wrong otherwise in any way over PM, please inform a core member. The core can't keep track of that, so without the core being informed, they can't take any action against the person that is misbehaving. It can be very annoying so it's important the core knows about it. Although the best way is probably PMing or mailing a core member, not doing it on the public forums.

Odowacar · Post by **Odowacar** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:28 pm

You should stay.
TR needs folk that are active and in my opinion you're an active member. Don't quit only because criticism.

btw, someone has voted that you shouldn't stay.

horodnicdragos · Post by **horodnicdragos** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:56 pm

Stay with us.I have the same problem and I didn't leave.If you receive any bad message please don't put on your soul.
And if you leave...........I will...NVM...I am your friend...And try to look...You have so many friends...And because of a member who doesn't likes you wnat to leave?
I personally apreciate your work.Please never think that your work haven't been apreciated.

Silverwood · Post by **Silverwood** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:03 pm

What kind of person would PM you with critisism that couldn't take the forums? I'm not saying you should stay, I'm saying you need to stay. We need to know what's wrong with the person that PMed you just to find out what his/ here issue is.
I thought this site was a much nicer community than when I first joined, some members just hate others. Some quit because of certain members. Those who want to ruin the project for others should not be in the project at all.

horodnicdragos · Post by **horodnicdragos** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:12 pm

Hmm...I see he voted with "No" in this forum.Maybe the admins can find out who was it.I don't think anyone is wanting you leaving.You are a good member.

The_Warder · Post by **The_Warder** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:27 pm

come on dont listen to it. just suck it up.

Orix · Post by **Orix** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 4:51 pm

Aye, you shouldn't leave, what would be the point? If you leave, then it means they've won, and that they would have suceeded in driving you away. Ignore them, I've had to put up with my fair share of complete prats (put very nicely) in life, some I ignore, others I fight back against. One person's bad opinion of you doesn't mean anything among the positive words you have seen here.

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:04 pm

Don't let it get to you, man.

[img]http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/cgr/images/PDE/pug1.jpg[/img]

horodnicdragos · Post by **horodnicdragos** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:09 pm

What were the messages about?If you don't want to tell us...then don't.I am curious what kind of message can convice you do that.Man try to ignore him.

And Vernon.That's a very nice doggy.

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:09 pm

The same thing happened to me before, but I wasn't suicidal. Killing yourself will not solve anything.

horodnicdragos · Post by **horodnicdragos** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:10 pm

Yeah.I know...I was nearly crying after I read some messages of this kind.

Hamlet_Shakespeare · Post by **Hamlet_Shakespeare** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:14 pm

Come on, Old Ye Bard. I agree with Morgoth that you can't go over the edge from criticism. Just keep in mind that (1)It takes a cruel, murderous, inconsiderate mind for someone to do anything to put someone down, but also think about the fact that(2)maybe he was just trying to employ constructive criticism, but he's not to great with words. But if he really meant to upset you, then, in your mind, tell him to piss off. And if he sends you another one of those messages, tell him the same. He needs to get a life.

You know that you are talented, and you are just trying to help. If some random spotheaded prick comes along and bashes you, don't let it pull you off the cliff. TR is for fun(and it's a great place to socialize in addition to that)and you can't let some idiot stop you. It's because of destructive words, cruelty, putting each other down, and discouragement, that so many people who have the potential to live life well or become artists or inventors or writers don't do so, because they were so discouraged by their peers that they put it off, forever. Don't let some loser suppress your talent, anywhere, whether in TR or in life.

Don't leave, please. You're a great guy, and...well, don't be taken down by some idiot who doesn't care about how destructive his words can be, even if they're "constructive criticism".

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:19 pm

No one is going to be pinning anyone down, much less you lot. This matter has been resolved, I think, in so far as anyone else cares. It's up to The Olde Ye Bard on whether he stays or goes, and no one else.

Please don't try and get involved in his business, as you'll only end up making a mess of it.

Graff · Post by **Graff** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:22 pm

I was just passing by and...

(Okay, leaving TR is difficult, like severing your own umbilical cord with a rusty spoon.)

...Bard, if you want to go, if you really feel that the guy has upset you, or that you feel unappreciated, just go, it's your decision, why make a poll? Not being nasty or anything, but from an impartial viewpoint, it looks like your just doing this for the attention.

All nastiness aside, good luck with whatever you want to do.

Graff.

*Vanishes*

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:30 pm

Graff wrote: But from an impartial viewpoint, it looks like your just doing this for the attention.

I was going to say just that, but thought it better not to, however, now that it's been said, I agree completely.

The Old Ye Bard · Post by **The Old Ye Bard** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:59 pm

They wrote:
if you leave because your low-quality and hastily done work was not accepted, then TR was never a place for you to begin with.

oh and no i'm not doing this for attention i'm doing this to put forth that theres a high chance of myself leaving TR because of one member being overly harsh with critizem.
also to that person you can't judge my work in general because one or two bits of my work wern't up to standard alot of my work was actualy quite good, instead of saying what you did you could of said which things where bad and how to improve, i'm sorry but you really don't know how to talk to other members in a respectable fashion and it doesn't matter how long they have been at TR.

after reading your comments again i feel good about the work that i do here at TR, and to that person i can understand where you are coming from but the way that you brought forth your view was inappropreite, please do not PM me again.

i will be staying, i couldn't leave TR its just to great a place. thanks for the support.

The Old Ye Bard

P.S. lock this thread.

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:49 pm

Bard, I highly doubt that nothing more was said in those messages than that. I believe you selected one of the nastier parts to post, but perhaps there was more to the PM than what you've decided to release. Either way, I don't feel any sympathy whatsoever, because I have recieved similar responses to my own work, and feel I have been cheated several times (Logo anyone?) here at TR, and not once have I posted an entire thread whining about it. Next time something like this happens to you, please handle it personally. Thank you.

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:55 pm

How is that PM offensive? It is telling you not to leave and to work harder.

Did Sload write that?

Massalinie · Post by **Massalinie** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:15 am

That messege doesn't seem all that offensive to me, though your're wuite right, it could have been said nicer. And a couple of people spring to mind that i've seen talk to people like this before.
It would be better if you told us who it is, preferably an admin and privately, so that the person can be talked to and we can make sure that this kind of thing doesnt happen again.

[edit]I just recieved an IM from the person who said it, and he told me that the quote was taken completely out of context, the actually words were:

If you're going to leave TR because their poor or low-quality work was not accepted, then TR was never the place for you to begin with. TR has high standards, yes, but everyone makes bad stuff every now and then, by all means, keep making poetry for TR, but keep in mind, that any bad work of yours will be barred, and only the good will be accepted

So there we have it.

LOCKED

--Mass--

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