Blacklight Zoning

Pythearon · Post by **Pythearon** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:54 pm

Ok so i was looking to start working on the Blacklight exteriors due to Vernon's absense and besides being told no, i was told it would be made into an open canton velothi settlement. I really dont understand this as far as location. Looking at the map, Imperial and Nordic influence would be felt most if it was being affected by those around it. I could even see it being Hlaalu as an outpost or possibly both imperial and hlaalu. Due to location, surrounding, and basic lore, i cant see how this settlement would be in any way Velothi.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:00 pm

Blacklight is actually an ancient Redoran city. It was at one time their capital. It would never have Imperial, Nordic or Hlaalu influence, especially once considered they were the House which largely kept foreigners out of Morrowind.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:18 pm

Redoran capital was Kragenmoor if the memory doesn't fail me.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:21 pm

Why Blacklight was made Hlaalu

Because there weren't enough Hlaalu cities. The only Hlaalu cities were Narsis, Stonefalls, and a handful of tiny towns. However, there were like 6 large Redoran cities. In an attempt to even things atleast slightly without redoing cities no one wanted redone because they were excellent. Cormaris View was already Hlaalu, it just made sense.

Yes, this doesn't follow lore. Please refrain from freaking out. It's Genericwinterholiday time..

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:40 pm

Both Kragenmoore and Blacklight have been the capital of House Redoran. Blacklight was the capital before it was moved to Ald'Ruhn.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:18 am

Actually, Kragenmoore is, in lore, a Hlaalu city. As is Riverbridge. That entire area should be Hlaalu, and because we're not going to redo half a dozen cities, Blacklight will be Hlaalu instead. This is, ofcourse, opperating under the assumption that TR for Morrowind won't die.

Pythearon · Post by **Pythearon** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 3:50 am

Kragenmoor is an ancient velothi stronghold. Ill look into the redoran capital thing.

EDIT: That of course meaning hlaalu but that brings up a question of why redoran would hold their capital city anywhere in the area especially with what i can see, in my experience, of Hlaalu being a very aggresive house.

http://til.gamingsource.net/maps/conceptmapremix.jpg

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:01 am

Hmm... kay. Although breaking lore by making Blacklight Hlaalu won't fix breaking lore by making Kragenmoore Redoran.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:21 am

It fixes balance and doesn't really matter anymore.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:02 am

Nomadic1 wrote:Hmm... kay. Although breaking lore by making Blacklight Hlaalu won't fix breaking lore by making Kragenmoore Redoran.

Well, you could always try to use that exterior cell mover to switch Blacklight and Kragenmoor, so that Kragenmoor becomes Hlaalu and Blacklight becomes Redoran...

(joking)

Razorwing · Post by **Razorwing** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:30 pm

I see a lot of interesting references to lore but no mentions of where exactly the information you reference can be found. I'm not critisizing anyone, I would just be personally very interested to read more about it since my searches on TIL hasn't yielded much in the way of information about cities such as Kragenmoor.

KuKulzA · Post by **KuKulzA** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:18 pm

it seems to me that it is very likely, due to the fact that the Redoran have been single-handedly defending Morrowind from Imperials and Nords, or at least have been the ones to take the brunt fo the attacks, to have moved their capitols a lot to prevent their councilors from getting killed. Blacklight, Silgrad, and Kragenmoore could all have been possible capitols provided that Kragenmoore is a Redoran city. If not then TR, you guys messed up somewhere along the line. At any rate, eventually I think the capitol came to Ald-ruhn. Don't look down on it, St. Petersburg was made in a swamp near the Baltic for similar reason as Venim moved the capitol to the ashlands.

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:54 pm

Wonderfuly informative. However, Blacklight is already in progress, and we've adopted a "whatever the modder feels like" stance on it.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:41 pm

Razorwing wrote:I see a lot of interesting references to lore but no mentions of where exactly the information you reference can be found. I'm not critisizing anyone, I would just be personally very interested to read more about it since my searches on TIL hasn't yielded much in the way of information about cities such as Kragenmoor.

The Blacklight lore being the Redoran capital before Ald'Ruhn comes directly from the game dialogue - Athyn Sarethi and a few others IIRC. I don't know where the Kragenmoore lore comes from. If that helps.

kebra · Post by **kebra** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:45 pm

And it has been decided that it will be a Velothian city after a big discussion. Velothian, because there is actually no big cities belonging to this house, that will make two, Tear and BL.

ps: next time i will update the claim i will send some photos to the open forum for everybody.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:12 am

kebra wrote:And it has been decided that it will be a Velothian city after a big discussion. Velothian, because there is actually no big cities belonging to this house, that will make two, Tear and BL.

ps: next time i will update the claim i will send some photos to the open forum for everybody.

Velothian isn't a house - it is the generic architecture style used by the Temple.

kebra · Post by **kebra** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:28 am

What's the explanation for Vos ?

And, OK, Nomadic1.

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:34 am

I believe that Vos was a Temple town, which was taken over by the Telvanni.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:04 am

Vos is actually an ancient Telvanni village. There is no story as to why it is in Velothi style. However, the Tribunal chapel there was built relatively recently by Aryon, so the Velothi features there predate any Temple presence.

It is kind of a mystery to be blunt.

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