Sound & Music Moderator

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:59 pm

Alright, Garriath told me on AIM that he is stepping down from his mod position. Since we have a closed community now, Massie suggested that we allow TR Modders to give input on who the new moderator will be, so get to it. Let us know who you want as your next Sound and Music moderator.

CommonsNat · Post by **CommonsNat** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:11 pm

I'm not that familiar with the music department, but isn't Macar the most active one on there? He produces some pretty high quality music.

PoHa! · Post by **PoHa!** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:21 pm

CommonsNat wrote:I'm not that familiar with the music department, but isn't Macar the most active one on there? He produces some pretty high quality music.

Ditto. Him or Graff... or... did Graff leave? I'm sorely unfamiliar with the music department...

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:21 pm

My vote goes to Graff for now. Macar is a good contender, and has a sensible head, I just think that Graff has more time under his belt.

Graff · Post by **Graff** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:42 pm

PoHa! wrote:
CommonsNat wrote:I'm not that familiar with the music department, but isn't Macar the most active one on there? He produces some pretty high quality music.
Ditto. Him or Graff... or... did Graff leave? I'm sorely unfamiliar with the music department...

Nah, I've just been a bit busy with exams at the moment. Cheers Hap

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:50 pm

I'd love to take on that job... I think. Thing is I'm not exactly shure what that entails. What would I need to do?

Thanks for the votes of confidence btw.

Massalinie · Post by **Massalinie** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:02 pm

Well, whatever you feel the department needs, you just keep things in order, maybe sort out a system for getting music into the game, a certain procedure each song had to go through or something, so there's a more clea path from writing the music to getting it in game. Keeping voice stuff going once oblivion comes out, and also giving feedback on everyone's work.

I'm torn between Graff and Macar, myself. I'd be happy with either of them as head of music. So it's a vote between the rest of us.

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:39 pm

Well, In my mind, Graff and Macar are even contenders, but since Graff has seniority, I guess I'll go with him... But, what if neither want the job?

Orix · Post by **Orix** » Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:40 pm

Sounds good, we need someone to clear up those ruddy voice threads that are all over the place.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:20 am

As much as I would like to be moderator, I should point out that graff has more experience and also has knowlage of sound recording- whereas I only realy know about music.

The Old Ye Bard · Post by **The Old Ye Bard** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:05 am

well i don't venture into the music and sound forum that much, but i know alot about sound recording and would like to be of more use at TR...could i be the sound & music moderator?

Massalinie · Post by **Massalinie** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:47 am

I think the key to the answer to your question is in " well i don't venture into the music and sound forum that much"
It's easy to say you know a lot about sound and music but nodoby has seen any evidence saying that you are. If you put some sounds a music together, start going into those forums more often and seeking help and advice in that area then maybe people would recognise you as the sort of person for the job. Graff and Macar both have a lot of knowledge in that area, and so their names immediately come up.
I don't think this is your "calling" so to speak, not yet, but work hard and show your dedication to a specific area and you're efforts won't go unnoticed. For now, I think we'll go with Graff or Macar.

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:13 am

I haven't heard any of their recent music. I remember practically everything was all in midi. I think macar might be a better choice though, I don't remember seeing graff around all that much lately.

I wish dragonfly didn't fall off the face of the earth again.

BTW my brother has some sound editing knowledge and software, but he has a lack of interest in computer games outside of lan (and net games with friends rarely), goes double for RPGs and for games without multiplayer. I'll ask(read blackmail) him, but I doubt he'd help.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:02 am

Actualy, both Graff and I have composed mp3s. if you want to check mine out you can go to; http://www.putfile.com/dalzay

Saibot · Post by **Saibot** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:36 am

I believe that while Macar is qualified for the job, Graff has more experience in the field. So I'd have to pick him.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:36 am

Tough choice between Graff and Macar. It seems to me that both would be good at it, and would be keen to have a go at moderating the department. Hmm... methinks Graff mainly for seniority since they are both talented and reliable.

Also, it looks like an even split between the two as well

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:45 am

Sorry - I'm going to have to go with Graff. I wanted him in the music moderator spot last year and I still do. Macar should obviously be called on by Graff to assist in any way he can, but Graff has been here a long time and has been omnipresent in the Sound & Music forum for as long as I can remember. For him the Sound & Music moderator spot is long overdue.

Boompiee · Post by **Boompiee** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:52 am

why not both?

Graff · Post by **Graff** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:05 pm

Sorry - I'm going to have to go with Graff. I wanted him in the music moderator spot last year and I still do. Macar should obviously be called on by Graff to assist in any way he can, but Graff has been here a long time and has been omnipresent in the Sound & Music forum for as long as I can remember. For him the Sound & Music moderator spot is long overdue.

Cheers Vern

Chances are that if I get picked I'll be using Macar to help with opinions on music quality and so forth, he's probably a better writer than me, I just have broader knowledge

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Resadyn · Post by **Resadyn** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:06 pm

I gotta go with graff, he just seems all around more knowledgeable about music. (No offense Macar.)

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:13 pm

Chicken...I mean Graff

Nothing personal Macar.

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:31 pm

For what it's worth, I have to give Graff my support. He's been here for ages and has loads of experience.

No offense, Macar.

Btw, is this a core position too?

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:36 pm

Well it looks like the best man won

Congradulations dude.

And people- no need for the "no offense" and "nothing personal". Frankly, I dont care if it is personal!

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:39 pm

No, it's not a core position.

Graff · Post by **Graff** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:39 pm

Macar wrote:Well it looks like the best man won Congradulations dude.

And people- no need for the "no offense" and "nothing personal". Frankly, I dont care if it is personal!

We don't know that yet, dude.

Besides, it's not like it's a popularity contest, otherwise I'd be clear out of the running

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:53 pm

cos yeh u suck the phat 11111

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:20 am

Very nice tunes macar.

What about having both of them, one for effects, the other for music?

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:57 am

Not enough responsibility to warrant two moderators.
Oh, right, my opinion. I say Graff.

Massalinie · Post by **Massalinie** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:05 am

Well, Dex never said how long this poll was supposed to go for, but the current total stands at 8 votes for graff,

Vyvara Araneae · Post by **Vyvara Araneae** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:26 am

I guess the question that has been bouncing around my insane mind is this: "Why not promote Graff and Macar?" Both are believed to be qualified for the position and having two would alleviate those times when "real life" gets in the way. Just a thought.

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:43 pm

Vyvara Araneae wrote:I guess the question that has been bouncing around my insane mind is this: "Why not promote Graff and Macar?" Both are believed to be qualified for the position and having two would alleviate those times when "real life" gets in the way. Just a thought.

Read Dexter's post, two posts above yours.

Vyvara Araneae · Post by **Vyvara Araneae** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:08 pm

Aye, I am aware that Dexter stated that there would not be enough to do in order to warrant two moderators. However, I was just merely thinking that having Graff and Macar overseeing the Sound/Music Section would only serve to be beneficial in the long run. I'm almost certain that both gents have lives outside of Tamriel Rebuilt and would be subject to forced or voluntary absences from time to time. With two Sound/Music moderators appointed, the duties will be shared either in tandem or trade-off agreement, allowing for flexibilty in the event one of them should need to focus their attentions elsewhere. This would also have a good chance of alleviating the rest of the team from adding to their already-swamped workload in order to cover the Sound/Music sections due to moderator absence.

*shrugs sheepishly*

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:52 pm

It wouldn't make sense to have two moderators for S&M. [rant]Massie has to handle interiors and NPCs all on her lonesome. Ditto Lady N. I think that there should be a new moderator for ints(she had to get temp mods last week) [/rant]

If you would like to help the "Help LadyN and Mass!" appeal, please send your completely error free ints to
Helptheintmods@tr.com

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:50 pm

Well, while I would certainly appreciate help, I want a secretary, not another moderator (ill explain this a bit further down). All there is to interiors is granting and there’s nothing to NPCs, so I don’t see why Massey is busy

(j/k of course. i mean no offence)

Now to the issue at hand. having 2 moderators, especially for such a small part of the project is really not worth it. First of all, having 2 moderators on the same turf is bothersome. The 2 people have to be in constant contact, and discus all their issues... witch makes for some really long down times. I remember when I was co-with vegor. We had to constantly discus everything that we were going to do, and if one person did something, we both had to mark it down on some list or something. Also, having 2 mods creates confusion as to what is who’s responsibility, and one person may end up doing all the work alone because the 2 people can’t agree/divide the work evenly (happened all the time to me and vegor/star)

hm... that made little sence...

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:07 pm

Lady Nerevar wrote:Well, while I would certainly appreciate help, I want a secretary, not another moderator

What would this entail? I'd love to help you out.

Vyvara Araneae · Post by **Vyvara Araneae** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:00 pm

I appreciate the clarification from one who has experienced a similiar situation. I suppose I was just attempting to theorize via logic, but as we know things that work in theory may not work in practice. With that being said, I would like to nominate Graff for the position.

I've assisted Lady N twice now and offered my services to all others who are swamped with secretarial type duties. This makes me feel quite useful while I am in limbo (all my belongings remain unpacked in the frozen attic and difficult to access until my room is finished being built).

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:26 pm

Well I already admited defeat once. Since then Graff has continued to recieve votes. So, when are we going to wrap this up and declare the winner? I'm anxious to have someone in charge. It's been hard over there without anyone for so long.

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:04 pm

Yeah I'll have Stalker do it later. I have no idea how this forum admin stuff works. I just yell at people.

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:31 pm

Promoted :)

Graff · Post by **Graff** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:36 pm

When can I get mod powers so I can start organising the S&M forum?

Graff.