How much is done

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:55 pm

How much is done when will morrowind be finished

CommonsNat · Post by **CommonsNat** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:57 pm

You mean how much of Morrowind will be finished when we move to Oblivion? Or do you mean how much of Morrowind is done? Or what?

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:03 pm

He means "How much is done? When will Morrowind be finished?"

1: Some. Map 1 should hopefully not be too far away. It's going through the finishing stages, but the finishing stages have lasted about 3 months or so now.

2: A long time yet.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:13 pm

'Done' is a relative term for TR. A lot is 'done'.. but the project is huge.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:15 pm

'Done' is a relative term for TR. A lot is 'done'.. but the project is huge.

My feelings exactly.

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:52 pm

First of all,
OoT collestion: (info isn't completely up to date)

Armor Pieces: 135
Books: 199
Clothing: 23
Containers: 105
Doors: 20
Ingredients: 44
Creatures: 57
Weapons: 120
Statics: 647
Misc. Items: 116

(courtesy of Stalker)

3058 exterior cells approved
127 in review
346 in progress

Map 1 contains about 550 interior cells and the others will be roughly the same
Comparison: MW vanilla contained ~1100 interior cells

In short: a lot

CommonsNat · Post by **CommonsNat** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:16 pm

Ludovic wrote:3058 exterior cells approved

Good Lord, is it really that many exterior cells? That's a ton!

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:31 am

All of it! We're done! Nothing left to do! Our life's work is now complete, everyone go commit suicide.
[img]http://damaged.anime.net/archive/suicide.jpg[/img]

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:36 am

What a lovely picture. It should be on a T-shirt.

Arondil Rethan · Post by **Arondil Rethan** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:32 am

No no no no NO! No Dexter! I should slap you. After the work of a lifetime, we must NOT commit a suicide - because who does the possible bugtesting, if we are dead?

Don't thou dare to say, that "there's no bugs", because - as an amateur game developer and professional website builder, I can say: There's always bugs. They're everywhere. So then we have a Tamriel Rebuilt buggy version.

Besides after TR is finally ready, then we supposingly HAVE to live to take the credits.

And that's a damn good picture

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:45 am

[img]http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/4822/mariowind2ym.jpg[/img]

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:02 am

I don't know if Morrowind will ever be completely done (though I hope so!), but anyway we'll never be done. Even if you admit that we will succeed in making all of Tamriel-the-continent for Oblivion, what will happen next? We'll move on to Yokuda or Atmora...

By essence, this isn't about the destination but about the journey. Though reaching a point is gratifying and satisfying, at the heart of the project is modding for modding's sake.

Arondil Rethan · Post by **Arondil Rethan** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:46 am

From generations to generations at it's best.

And we run out of lore, then we ARE the lore. Nirn will be a hell-large planet.

Andres Indoril · Post by **Andres Indoril** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:53 pm

Yeah, right... It will be probably as though that it will never be finished

. It think as though as we can finally complete TR when Beth will stop making new engines...

Then we would be happy and work as hard as possible

But in the meantime lets work

and have fun working

Graff · Post by **Graff** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:59 pm

Andoril, by your reckoning, we should never bother with bugtesting, because even though we may reduce the number of bugs, there are always bugs, so it's a thankless task. According to that theory, we can never attain perfection, we can just shave away at imperfection.

Graff.

xanthier · Post by **xanthier** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:44 pm

move to oblivion....do I understand that rightly that the rest is to be built using oblivion? if the project is so huge, why do such a thing??

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:53 pm

By essence, this isn't about the destination but about the journey. Though reaching a point is gratifying and satisfying, at the heart of the project is modding for modding's sake.

I think you missed the point of this statement.

Arondil Rethan · Post by **Arondil Rethan** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:10 am

Graff wrote:Andoril, by your reckoning, we should never bother with bugtesting, because even though we may reduce the number of bugs, there are always bugs, so it's a thankless task. According to that theory, we can never attain perfection, we can just shave away at imperfection.

Graff.

Perfection cannot be achieved. We can get NEAR it - but never to the perfection itself. That's why we SHOULD bother with bugtesting to get as much that buggy filth as possible.

If really getting to the bottom of this, I'd say, that the whole perfection/imperfection matter is in each individual's head. Think about painting, for example: You do several hours hard work, shape every single inch of the painting, spend sleepless nights... Then you say "Now, it's ready! It's PURRRfect!" Ok, it hangs on your wall from few days to few weeks and you say: "Well it could have used bit this and that"

NOTE!: This amateur-philosophical thought is a stub.

Morden wrote: Quote:
By essence, this isn't about the destination but about the journey. Though reaching a point is gratifying and satisfying, at the heart of the project is modding for modding's sake.

I think you missed the point of this statement.

The point is, at it's most simplest form: "I care SHIT about the destination! All, that matters, is the path!"

Correct me, if I'm wrong

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:05 pm

You're wrong. If the destination didn't matter, we wouldn't be making the journey in the first place.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:12 pm

That's not always true. What about tredmills and stationary bikes. What about a cross country runner in training who run 10 miles by himself only to come back to the place where he started

That's how I see my jouney. It's a chance to use my modding skills (or in my case art and music skills) on a project that can never truly be finished. I can get on and do as much work as I want.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:54 pm

By strait logic, Dexter is right. You don't take a journey without wanting to get somewhere. It's the emphasis you put on getting to that destination which varies. Some people don't take their eyes off the road, while I take in the sights, have a picnic, visit the pub, and have a nap.

Silvone Elestahr · Post by **Silvone Elestahr** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:00 pm

Thats not exactly true. I would be more than willing to take a journey and not give a care where I ended up, if I even ended up anyware, as long as the road was interesting enough. If you make the journey, as in you yourself decided where it will end up and which road it will take, then you obviuosly have a destination in mind. But if someone joins you along the way, it might only be to enjoy the road. Perhaps they never want to reach a destination.

xanthier · Post by **xanthier** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:47 am

Yes, but to do something for a long time only to have the work wiped out and started over takes away that satisfaction that you get from progress. But maybe I'm talking about something different than everyone else.

CommonsNat · Post by **CommonsNat** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:51 am

Ack, I just noticed Dexter's picture up top... I skipped it before...

Has anyone thought that both the journey and the destination can be equally rewarding? You can't have one without the other. Even if you are just wandering, you do have a destination, though you do not know what.

Now... Excuse me while I vomit on my computer screen from Dex's pic... I'm gonna have nightmares...

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:39 am

Haha, nate, im younger than you and YOUR gonna have nightmares? Cmon, that pics cool