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Zeph left for vacation (let's hope he'll have a good time) so I'll be trying to replace him where needed. I won't be able to fix heavy tech stuff because my knowledge of PHP, HTML, CSS and a lot of other scary words is limited but I can fix and change the basic stuff.
The thing is our site is outdated. Some stuff needs revising and some - complete removal. FAQ for example needs revising. Mr. Sorry sent me a revision but because he's done it in ugly way aka copying HTML and editing it there - it ain't really helpful because the document is bloated and unreadable.
So yeah, propose away.
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If you need help with PHP/HTML/etc just let me know.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

for a centurion you dont have much knowlege in technology :p
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garfield wrote:If you need help with PHP/HTML/etc just let me know.

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Thanks for the offer Garf. I'll be sure to let you know if I need some heavy stuff. But I'll hope to limit myself to small updates which won't require a lot of HTML knowledge (PHP is easier 'coz it's more like my beloved C++)
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Enormous is spelt wrong on the main page. (I noticed this the first time I came here, he he)


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We should have a history page like Silgrad Tower does
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What do you mean by history? If you mean the developmental history of TR, we already have a huge thread explaining it in great detail.
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As I mentioned to Zeph, I beleive we need to Advertise our theme more. Its a great movie, and I didnt notice it for forever.
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Dexter wrote:What do you mean by history? If you mean the developmental history of TR, we already have a huge thread explaining it in great detail.
ok. And why doesn't it say anything under my username like TR member?
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If need HTML-guidanance, I'm nearly a professional in it :)
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Arondil Rethan wrote:If need HTML-guidanance, I'm nearly a professional in it :)
I worked as a web developer for 6 years before moving into the games industry ;)

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Here's my first error report:

http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=faq&section=0

I want in. What can I do? section.

'Skilful literature writers' should be 'skilled writers'

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http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=modding_data/main

Under 'Dragonsong's tutorials', all the links take you to the mainpage (www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/)
Fix: remove this section of tuts


Under 'Other tutorials', the 'TESCS Filesystem' link redirects you to a broken page.
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garfield wrote:
Arondil Rethan wrote:If need HTML-guidanance, I'm nearly a professional in it :)
I worked as a web developer for 6 years before moving into the games industry ;)

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http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=faq

What is Tamriel Rebuilt?

The purpose of this FAQ is to answer the most basic issues we find ourselves dealing with, and then address those questions. This page could be considered as a set of rules for modding in Tamriel Rebuilt - if you read it thoroughly and follow the guidelines set by it, you'll do just fine at TR.


So, what is Tamriel Rebuilt?

In essence, TR is a 'mod' (mod is a universal abbreviation for 'modification'. Thus modding stands for 'modifying', and 'modders' are 'modifiers'.) project for Morrowind, one that attempts to create the whole world of Tamriel on computer as presented by Bethesda in its previous Elder Scrolls titles.


Hold on. What is Tamriel?

Tamriel is a fantasy world created by Bethesda, and is used in their [url=http://www.elderscrolls.com/]Elder Scrolls[/url] games, in titles such as Arena, Daggerfall, Redguard, Morrowind, and their latest release: Oblivion. At first a rather ordinary world, it has gradually developed to be more and more interesting during the years and new titles to the Elder Scrolls series. So far, Oblivion is the most unique and farthest away from the traditional role-playing world with its very rich lore, unlike anything seen in a game developed exclusively for computers and consoles. It is lore that makes Tamriel an interesting place, to the extent that we want to see the Crystal Tower, the Palace of Sentinel, and the Eltheric Ocean after traveling all the way from Cyrodiil, explore ruins of old cities and all that, rebuilt, to achieve a dream.

The map below shows how Tamriel relates to the four ES games and The Elder Scrolls Adventures games. Arena, the first game of the series, had all of Tamriel playable. Most of it, however, was randomly generated and the game itself is obviously a rather generic one. Daggerfall consisted of a huge area around Iliac Bay, in the provinces of High Rock and Hammerfell. Sadly, most of its content was random, too. Morrowind, which takes place on the island of Vvardenfell, in the province of Morrowind, is considerably smaller in play area, although the island doesn't seem so small on the map. This is because Morrowind was modeled on scale, about 1:10 in order to make a 3D world of sensible work requirements and so as to keep away from randomly generated content. It succeeded in being credible, though, much more so than its predecessors. Oblivion, the latest title in the Elder Scrolls series, goes beyond the bounds of all previous games conceived. TES: IV Oblivion also boasts of being the very first ‘Next-Gen’ game for the PC. The goal of Tamriel Rebuilt is also to be credible and imaginative. While we are not outright against random generation, we'd rather work on the land by hand and not by tools that don't necessarily produce believable, and memorable, results.


[Insert the map and key here]



Lore is a strange word. What does it mean?

Lore, according to [url=http://www.dictionary.com]Dictionary.com[/url], is accumulated facts, traditions, or beliefs about a particular subject. In TES, lore comes through books, dialogue, maps, architecture, game mechanics, and many other things. In Tamriel Rebuilt, we strive to make the world as this knowledge has established it, and preserve it as accurately as possible. This does not mean limitation of creative freedom, for all lore is very, very vast. The books alone are about 1400 pages on A4 paper, both sides, not to mention dialogue, geography, bestiary and all the other sources of information at our fingertips.

We do have to create more lore, however; the current amount is not satisfactory for the whole of Tamriel. We have begun this grand effort by making spellbooks, writing stories and quests, and seeking out answers to our many questions. However, original lore is not to be changed or bashed in any way. That means that the province of Oblivion will not be touched in the official TR mod. If you need any information about lore, there are a number of pages to look at. Perhaps the best-known place is the [url=http://til.gamingsource.net]Imperial Library[/url]. To make sure there's enough material, we have our own maps, bestiaries and other collections of rules for the mod. If even more information about lore is needed, people in the [url=http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/]forums[/url]will certainly help, and there is always the option of visiting the official [url=http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/]Elder Scrolls Forums[/url]for questions or discussion.


I want in. What can I do?


If you can do it, and do it well, we need it. We are in need of landscapers, modelers, texturers, interior builders, city builders, quest writers, scripters, sound editors, animators, concept artists, music composers, voice actors, literature writers/editors, and lore "scholars". Lore scholars are simply people who have read more books than you have :-) Basically, we seek all people with original and fresh ideas, basic knowledge of TES world and lore, devotion to the project and enthusiasm for the original game, and of course, friendly behavior and good manners are welcomed.


How are things done?

In Tamriel Rebuilt, things are done in layers. First, the exterior of an area is created, is reviewed, fixed, and added. Then any interiors that were in that exterior are created by modders of TR, and the interiors are also reviewed, fixed, and added. Once the interiors are finished, quests can be created, adding new NPCs, guilds, items, creatures, scripts and so on, if any are needed. When all quests are finished, the rest of the area can be populated with creatures and non-quest NPCs using default & custom AI packs, as well as regional dialogue, fast-travel options, and merchant services, etc. etc.


How do I claim an exterior, interior, NPC, creature or a quest?

Exteriors, Interior and Quests as well have their own claiming threads near the bottom of the forum main page. There you can see which tasks are currently available for claiming, which tasks are currently claimed or under review, and which tasks are finished and waiting to be merged. This system is very intuitive. Every available claim should contain all needed information about what is required. If you want to claim a particular quest, interior, or exterior area, one simply presses the claim button and adds information on what you would plan to do with that claim. Then you wait for a moderator to come by and grant your claim. And remember, BE PATIENT; every member of TR is still human, and therefore they have lives.

Once a claim is granted to you, it is considered wise, and is required, to update regularly with information on your progress, screenshots, and an upload of your latest work for large updates. If you do not follow these rules, then your claim will be revoked, and another TR modder can and will claim it. You will see how to do it, when the time comes.

Also, a to-do list for models, located [url=http://forums.tamriel-rebuilt.org/viewtopic.php?t=3076]HERE[/url]is something you should especially take a look at, if you are a modeler.

As for NPCs: the NPC systems are currently closed and undergoing some changes, so expect this part of the FAQ to be updated once the changes are complete.

After you have finished your claim, you need to post saying you have done so, and upload your finished file in the appropriate spot at the top of the Claim Thread.


What happens after I submit my claim?


When a claim is submitted it will be looked over by two reviewers to be absolutely sure the plug-in is clean and follows the guidelines, as well as what the claim was originally going to contain. If it is not clean, several things will happen. If the claim is an interior claim, the reviewers will make a list of things that need to be fixed. Once those errors are fixed, it’s skimmed over once more, and then added to the main .ESP. If the claim is an exterior or other claim, however, it will be checked slightly, and then added. Much more intensive checking will follow in later stages of development. This is to cut down on people who submit their claims and disappear and to speed up the whole process by not having to go through a tennis match with the claimer trying to get them to fix all the things that were found wrong with what the submitted. Once all the needed changes have been made, that particular layer of the map will be released.


How do I download the pieces done so far?

In order to download our maps and playable content, you must be an approved member of TR. Being a member of the forums does not make you a qualified member of TR. It is possible to download all of the individually submitted plug-ins and put them together yourself. However, we recommend that you wait for our official merged versions when they are released. They are, and will be, found on the [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=download]download[/url] page.


What province is up next?


After Morrowind, we will work on creating Hammerfell. A detailed map of Hammerfell can be found [url=http://www.kolumbus.fi/zombie/hf.jpg]HERE[/url], and will soon be available on the [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=modding_data/maps]Maps[/url] page.


I have further questions. What do I do?

Please, by all means, join the forums and ask your questions there, in the appropriate sub-forum. New members have [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewforum.php?f=203]their own forum[/url] to ask any questions without fear of being considered unwitty or dull. If someone mistreats you at this forum, Private Message (PM) an administrator or moderator, and they will take care of it. The [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewforum.php?f=85]Tavern[/url] is for all discussion that doesn't fit elsewhere, so if it's something unspecific, go there. If you are confused by all the forums, then you can PM one of moderators, administrators, or older members for help. Don't be afraid of them, as they are here just to serve the project as others have.

For further reading, take a look at the [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=dos_donts]Do's and Do Not's of TR[/url] as well as all the other FAQs found at the upper left corner of this page.
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http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=faq&section=76692

There is to be no dealing, discussing, asking, mentioning, or directing towards of any hacks/pirated material of any type on this forum. We do not care if you are from a country which allows that type of thing, go and spend some money and get it legitimately, like the rest of us. I know some of you might not be trying to do it intentionally, or just not thinking straight, but realize that our butts are on the line, and there will be no allowance of it in any form. Thank you.


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http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=faq&section=13842

Delete everything after this line, as Bolt-ons are no longer part of TR:

TR will not accept mods that add, change or deletes content in the original Bethesda work on Vvardenfell.

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http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=faq&section=13181

The general consensus about the existance of the Falmer in TR is that they are extinct and will stay extinct. TR will not welcome "survivor" Falmer in the project, so please do not create quests/NPCs or any other lore to conflict with this. [For TR]

The lore is too imprecise to make a clear judgement on their current state of existance. That the Falmer are extinct or are indeed Reiklings has yet to be confirmed by Bethesda. Until then, TR will leave them as an extinct species.

Only under the extreme circumstance that Bethesda changes the lore on the Falmer will TR review this policy.

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-Under concepts art section: “the work is currently divided into five categories - architecture, creatures, flora, equipment and miscellaneous art.” There are only 4 sections; there is no misc.

-The modding data: Maps section should be updated to include the Hammerfell map.

-In the Modding data: Tutorials section. Vegor's interior tutorial for Tamriel Rebuilt should be moved to the Tamriel Rebuilt's tutorials section (instead of misc. where it is now)

-The Screen Shots: Architecture section needs to be updated. I have some indoril screens lying around somewhere (complete with tan background)....

-The Screen Shots: Misc items section is blank. Either remove it, or take some screens (I can perhaps do this as well)

-[url=http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/?picture=Karthor_Dale.jpg&p=screenshots&gallery=4]this[/url] picture is labeled Kathor Dale. Either the name is incorrect, or the picture is outdated. Unless I of course am retarded and that is KD...

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http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=team

The Team
Essentially, Tamriel Rebuilt is a group effort. No single person could do such an amount of work in any reasonable amount of time, so there are quite a few of us. There is not much of a power hierarchy, save for that which is necessary to keep the project together. We have four administrators, several moderators, multiple reviewers and members without any special status, of which TR mainly consists. There is also the Honorary Member status. This status is given to people who have resigned from core duties for personal reasons, or to people who have served TR in some special way. The administrators, moderators, reviewers and any other people listed are not mentioned because they get some special honor for TR - instead, they are here so that people know who to turn to when problems arise. They are here to help, not to gather glory, or to inflict punishments or become slavedrivers.

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Administrators

Each administrator has their own specific tasks to take care of, and they alone have power to change a person’s rank in the forum. They also grant and revoke claims, solve conflicts, and go about cleaning the forums. None of them are simply leaders: They also do the very same work at TR that others do - build interiors, exteriors, make models and textures. However, they also coordinate the work of others, and are quite good at doing it, too. This is why they have been chosen for this position of immense responsibility. Any general questions about Tamriel Rebuilt or claiming can be sent to one of the administrators.

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Moderators

Moderators have been appointed to take care of various things, including granting claims, moderating discussion forums and generally keeping track of things, where an administrator is too busy. They also make decisions about the mod along with administrators, but most importantly, they are there to answer questions. So go and ask, if you have one.

Graff - Sound & Music Moderator

Haplo - Head Literature Moderator

Kingfish - Exterior Moderator

Lady Nerevar - Head of Reviewers (Interiors)

Ludovic - Assistant Interior Moderator

Massalinie - NPC Moderator

Morden - Concept Art Moderator

Morgoth - Temporary Concept Art Moderator

Xui'al - Literature Moderator/Books of Tamriel

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Reviewers

Reviewers are those who ensure the quality of the claims. Modders send their claims for them for a review and if the mod is good, it passes as a part of the group map. If not, the claim is sent back to the modder with pointers on what to change with it.
Reviewers are: Colhir, Gez, Inferno_str1ke, Ludovic, Nomadic1, PoHa!, Resadyn, Sload, and Swiftoak Woodwarrior.

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Honorary members, aside from a few exceptions, are those who have once been in the core team, but have resigned later from that position due to personal reasons. Because of the nature of TR and the time-demanding tasks that the core has, this happens from time to time and is really no wonder. Since the progress of TR is bogged down by an absence of leadership, people have resigned from their positions in order to give room for others with more time and capabilities.

The following people are Honorary Members::

Arcadea, Ender, Eraser, Hermit, Jacurutu, Kothloth, Lord_Gallant, Majra, Nazz, Noirgrim, prometheus, Seran, Sniper4, Starcrunch, Theo, Veet, Vegor, Vyvara Araneae, and Yinnie.

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In Tamriel Rebuilt, ordinary members must be promoted into TR modder status if they want to participate in building the world. All of our currently contributing members are TR modders. The following is a list of TR modders:

Adanorcil, AFFA, Andres Indoril, Annon, Arthmodeus, Asylum, Boompiee, Colhir, cougar, Ede, El Scumbago, fanfas, Feored, Gez, Graff, Haplo, Indoril, Inferno_str1ke, Kasan Moor, kebra, lac, Ludovic, Lutemoth, Macar, Matthew_Kaine, Moorkh, Morden, Morgoth, Nalzay, Nemon, Nomadic1, Orix, presh, Raincatcher, Resadyn, RowanTiernan, Saibot, Serric, Shinobi, Silverwood, sirwootalot123, Skyfire the Bibliomancer, Sload, SwedishFish, sxotty, Tags, The Old Ye Bard, The_Warder, Thrignar Fraxix, Valdyr, Vholdrian, viKING, Xui'al.

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Other members
Aside from the staff, there are a great number of members who have done considerable amounts of work on the mod without having a special title in the forum - too many to be listed here. However, a few of the hardest-working people are mentioned here. While the list is limited to five, we have equal appreciation for those with lesser merits.
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I thought Earl was also a literatur moderator?
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No, he hasn't been for a while. He went AWOL for the second time a while back, so an impromptu discussion was held one day and I was put in his place, and later on, Xui'al was promoted to help me with lit, because it was growing quite rapidly.

Earl still has the title for a few reasons off the top of my head:

1) Technically, he hasn't been deposed(hehe, that sounds like a nasty end). He might still come back and be able to take on the duty
2) Some centurion must be lazy or have some creaky joints...
3) Too my knowledge, (I don't have permissions to view the admin forum) there hasn't really been an official discussion about it, only talk between an admin or two and a few moderators and members on IRC.
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All user lists are generated automatically so if there are errors they are to be corrected differently.
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whee! Another simple quote job here:

Join the Project
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Since you've clicked on the "Join Now!" link, you must want to help us make our dream a reality. Luckily for you, we need all kinds of help. For example:

• Interior Cell Designers
• NPC Makers
• Experts on Tamrielic Lore
• Writers (English Language)
• NIF Meshers
• Texture Artists
• Sound/Voice/Music Artists
• Exterior Designers
• And creative minds!

The requirements to join the Tamriel Rebuilt project are few. Members have to be dedicated to rebuilding Tamriel the way Bethesda would have done it if they had continued to make every province. If you plan to add aspects of Dungeons & Dragons (TM) to Tamriel or plan to change the existing game in some way to accommodate a new idea, this might not be the project for you.

To this end, members are expected to rebuild Tamriel as close to its archetype as possible, not remake it entirely. The existing lore gathered from past Elder Scrolls games, Official Forum threads, [url=http://til.gamingsource.net/]The Imperial Library[/url], and other places provide the guidelines by which we build this world. If you plan to build the Town of Joe and appoint your character, Joe the Orc, as its ruler, this might not be the project for you.

Fortunately, for those who are less than anal-retentive about Tamrielic lore, our forum is a very open and informative place. If you ever have any questions about a lore-related topic, we have a special section of the forum dedicated to just that. Most importantly, members should enjoy modding with the Elder Scrolls Construction Set (TES: CS)! If you consider making Morrowind or Oblivion mods hard work, then this might not be the project for you.

If you've made it this far, you are probably just what we're looking for! Joining is simple. Just click on the "Forums" link above and register there. Once you've become a registered member of the forum, just make a new thread in the Showcase Board and shows what you're good at! Look in the Showcase Board for further instructions on the process of becoming a TR modder. We won't bite (at least, most of us won't :-)) and there is not a single member that wouldn't be happy to answer any questions you might have. In addition, there are many [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=faq&section=0]FAQs[/url] that can give you some insight on our claims system and answer other questions regarding the mod.

If you don't really have much experience with the Construction Set, but you'd like to be a part of this project, don't worry! There are many members who have learned a lot about modding with the TES: CS just by learning from the other members. We also have tutorials on the main page to help get you started.

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Nice work Hap
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Fixed all the stuff above and more. Like added forum tags FAQ - http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/?p=faq&section=164905
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You haven't fixed the team page yet, (note, I'm not talking about the user-generated lists. The descriptive paragraphs have been revised by me and posted above.)
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