[22:23] <Dexter_Kong> rihad is probably a gigantor merchant town
[22:24] <Dexter_Kong> like the last bastion of redguard culture before the imperial boarder
[22:24] <Dexter_Kong> so they would be making huge profits by exporting redguard-made shit
[22:24] <Stalker> I was envisioning it as one of those towns where there's still Redguard traditions being kept
[22:26] <Lady_N> agree with stalker, but i also think that there is alot of imperial influence
[22:26] <Lady_N> like....*cnat come up with rl example*
[22:27] <Stalker> Yes, it's like a crazy mix between two
[22:29] <Dexter_Kong> i think there would be tons of old-school redguard merchants
[22:30] <Stalker> And those snake charmers
[22:31] <Stalker> Snake charmers are a must no matter how hard they are to make
[22:35] <Lady_N> i agree
[22:35] <Morden2260> it would be easy to make a dancing snank coming out of a basket
[22:35] <Lady_N> and the MUST be something conected to concubines. either a market... or a university....
[22:35] <Morden2260> it would be like swaying flora
[22:36] <Stalker> Concubines ?
[22:36] <Stalker> What they have to do with anything ?
[22:36] <Morden2260> there is a big concubine slave trade in Rihad
[22:36] <Stalker> Ahh
[22:36] <Stalker> Cool
[22:36] <Dexter_Kong> dude, redguards would be THE race for a whore market
[22:36] <Morden2260> "come to rihad! Sell your daughter,ect
[22:37] * Stalker sets mode: +oo Lady_N Morden2260
[22:38] <Lady_N> indeed
[22:38] <Stalker> By the way
[22:38] <Stalker> There's an easter egg in Oblivion
[22:38] <Stalker> There's a quest to get rid of rat infestation in some house of Dunmeri women
[22:38] <Stalker> She has the same surname as pillow lady in Balmora
[22:39] <Lady_N> we seriously need to have a big whore industry in all of HF. and i want all my freinds preserved for ever as dirty, cheap whores. with "sucky, sucky. 5 dolla" dialogue preferably
[22:39] <Morden2260> awesome.. and they could've spent that time letting us change animations
[22:39] <Lady_N>
[22:40] <Dexter_Kong> i want to be able to name the leader of a ring of pirates after serra
[22:40] <Morden2260> can we give her a patch eye?
[22:41] <Stalker> And I want to put and always complaining man named Tior Lo
[22:41] <Morden2260> or perhaps a wooden leg?
[22:41] <Lady_N> if we could have the TR pirate crew preserved as some pirates in hf its be tight
[22:41] <Dexter_Kong> no eyepatch or wooden leg, she'd get mad at me
[22:41] <Stalker> Hehe
[22:41] <Lady_N> lol
[22:41] <Stalker> Tior Lo sounds TESish enough, does it ?
[22:42] <Lady_N> as it happens i have a pic of a pirate leader... dotn know how much she looks like serra though.....
[22:42] <Dexter_Kong> who is tior lo supposed to be
[22:43] <Stalker> Well he's my teacher and he's supposed to be always complaining about everything and wanting you to pay him for any extra work he does
[22:43] <Stalker> He also but have a whore-like daughter
[22:43] <Dexter_Kong> ah
[22:43] <Lady_N> lol
[22:43] <Lady_N> HF is gona be so much fun....
[22:48] <Morden2260> what sort of government building would be in Rihad?
[22:48] <Morden2260> its a pretty old city... do you think there would be a palace of sorts? or more like an imperial keep?
[22:48] <Stalker> Palace
[22:48] <Stalker> Definatly palace
[22:48] <Morden2260> either way I don't really like the idea of onion domes in Rihad
[22:49] <Stalker> Yeah, agree
[22:49] <Stalker> They are damn hard to do from materials avaliable around Rihad
[22:50] <Morden2260> a big stone palace would work... something strong but not really fancy
[22:50] <Morden2260> if there is a dome it could be similar to half sphere
[22:51] <Stalker> Hegathe and Totambu for one have High Rock-like castles
[22:51] <Stalker> I'm thinking of something along the line of Byzantine in stone
[22:53] <Stalker> I was thinking that our way of making cities unique would be giving them unique palaces
[22:53] <Stalker> It won't require a lot of work
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[22:54] <Stalker> Hi
[22:55] <Proweler> Hey Stalker
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[22:55] <Proweler> you mentioned something about beer and yokudan dancers....
[22:55] <Adanorcil> I see why you wanted me here.
[22:56] <Stalker> OK because QuakeNet kicks for spam
[22:56] <Stalker> I'll shortly retell stuff
[22:56] <Adanorcil> Go ahead.
[22:56] <Stalker> The main idea is that Rihad while being traditionalistic still has strong imperial influence
[22:57] <Stalker> In terms of architecture
[22:57] <Proweler> makes sense, people don't break down buildings to fast
[22:57] <Adanorcil> uhuh
[22:57] <Adanorcil> keep in mind that we are speaking at least 433 years of Imperial occupation though
[22:57] <Stalker> Because of materials avaliable it will be stupid to have onion domes and alike in Rihad
[22:57] <Adanorcil> But still.
[22:58] <Adanorcil> Yes.
[22:58] <Stalker> [22:50] <Morden2260> a big stone palace would work... something strong but not really fancy
[22:58] <Stalker> [22:50] <Morden2260> if there is a dome it could be similar to half sphere
[22:58] <Stalker> [22:51] <Stalker> Hegathe and Totambu for one have High Rock-like castles
[22:58] <Stalker> [22:51] <Stalker> I'm thinking of something along the line of Byzantine in stone
[22:58] <Stalker> I wasn't kicked ? yay
[22:58] <Lady_N> lol
[22:58] <Proweler> hehe
[22:59] <Adanorcil> heh
[22:59] <Lady_N> all i have to add... whould a concubine university work ?
[22:59] <Adanorcil> Mmm. I can agree with that.
[22:59] <Proweler> http://www.econ.ucdavis.edu/faculty/fzfeens/photo_5/01_Neemrana%20Fort%20Palace.JPG <- Concubine university
[22:59] <Adanorcil> That always does.
[22:59] <Proweler> although I wouldn't call it like that
[22:59] <Dexter_Kong> a sex school?
[22:59] <Lady_N> yea.
[22:59] <Dexter_Kong> hmm
[22:59] <Stalker> I think concubine university would be unique and a nice traditionalistic touch
[22:59] <Dexter_Kong> actually
[23:00] <Lady_N> lol
[23:00] <Proweler> perhaps call them "Companions"
[23:00] <Morden2260> you mean like a gisha?
[23:00] <Dexter_Kong> we could do that
[23:00] <Dexter_Kong> not a full-blown university
[23:00] <Lady_N> duh
[23:00] <Lady_N> just like a place to learn... tricks...
[23:00] <Dexter_Kong> but maybe a small private place
[23:00] <Proweler> haha
[23:00] <Stalker> I am actually thinking of something quite big
[23:00] <Lady_N> thats a realy nice pic
[23:00] <Morden2260> you mean like the Geisha
[23:01] <Morden2260> except these get married off
[23:01] <Stalker> Morden2260: Yeah
[23:01] <Dexter_Kong> no doubt there would be enough business for something like that
[23:01] <Stalker> http://hock.net/photos/greece/monemvasia/monemvasia-upper-ruins-byzantine-church.jpg - here ya go. Bizantine onion replacement
[23:01] <Adanorcil> Do you agree that this is a bit too much:
[23:01] <Adanorcil> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/SofiaCathedral.jpg
[23:01] <Dexter_Kong> especially close to the boarder
[23:01] <Adanorcil> Traditonal octogonal architecture, it looks to me.
[23:02] <Adanorcil> Byzantine style does involve domes.
[23:02] <Stalker> Adanorcil: If you need I can go and make hundreds of photos of it.
[23:02] <Proweler> mmh, your going for a more asian look?
[23:02] <Adanorcil> But that aren't necessarily onion domes.
[23:02] <Stalker> Or not. It's the other Sofia's Cathedral
[23:02] <Dexter_Kong> so...
[23:02] <Dexter_Kong> that image lady N sent
[23:02] <Dexter_Kong> the first one
[23:02] <Stalker> I'm still loading :\
[23:02] <Dexter_Kong> of the concubine university
[23:02] <Stalker> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/SofiaCathedral.jpg - this could actually work as a palace
[23:02] <Lady_N> i didnt send anything....
[23:02] <Dexter_Kong> am i the only one who thinks that style is perfect for the cyrodiil boarder
[23:03] <Lady_N> stalker: no[e
[23:03] <Lady_N> nope* too bazentine
[23:03] <Proweler> "no comment"
[23:03] <Adanorcil> Without the bell tower in any case.
[23:03] <Adanorcil> I agree with Lady N.
[23:03] <Stalker> Doh, it's supposed to be bizantine inspired
[23:03] <Adanorcil> This is obviously later Byzantine art.
[23:03] <Dexter_Kong> no comment is often better expressed by actually not making a comment
[23:03] <Stalker> Add some easterness to it
[23:04] <Lady_N> it has no HF influence. looks like the imperial city arc
[23:04] <Morden2260> byzantine architechture might complicate things
[23:04] <Adanorcil> http://baugeschichte.a.tu-berlin.de/bg/lehre/bild.php?bild_id=2196
[23:04] <Morden2260> we're already trying to mix arabic and asian architecture
[23:04] <Proweler> Adanorcil: link is broken
[23:04] <Adanorcil> works for me. :/
[23:05] <Morden2260> works for me too
[23:05] <Morden2260> that design is nice an simple
[23:05] <Stalker> Brb. Sorry but it's urgent
[23:05] <Proweler> gah, ie
[23:06] <Adanorcil> Halfway between byzantine and roman.
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[23:06] <Proweler> mmh, that's more western though
[23:06] <Adanorcil> Now you would need some unique elements.
[23:07] <Lady_N> link dosent work for me eitehr.
[23:07] <Adanorcil> Strange.
[23:07] <Dexter_Kong> me either
[23:07] <Proweler> try IE lady N
[23:07] <Adanorcil> Perhaps try copying it.
[23:08] <Lady_N> dumb ass bro wants to use the comp so he can sit around duing nothing in aprticular and complain.
[23:08] <Lady_N> ive gtg. see yall. have fun disgusing
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[23:08] <Proweler> cya
[23:08] <Adanorcil> Bye
[23:08] <Adanorcil> Oops, too late.
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[23:10] <Dexter_Kong> yeah it works in IE
[23:10] <Adanorcil> Sorry, I am one of those IE users.
[23:10] <Milamber> hm, so if I understand it correctly, there are at least 4 ES channels on this network? and all of them seperate and under different management?
[23:11] <Proweler> wich ones?
[23:12] <Milamber> #elderscrolls #oblivion #morrowind and this one
[23:12] <Proweler> found them
[23:13] <Proweler> they seem pretty dead though
[23:14] <Morden2260> yes.. this is the only channel we own
[23:14] <Milamber> #oblivion is rather alive
[23:14] <Morden2260> well.. run atleast
[23:14] <Proweler> aah, this is the silgrad branche
[23:14] <Milamber> Right, quakenet is pretty large isn't it?
[23:14] <Milamber> compared to chatspike for instance I mean.
[23:14] <Morden2260> what about silgrad?
[23:15] <Proweler> well chatspike is a little better on servis I think
[23:15] <Proweler> cleaner
[23:16] <Milamber> I rather like it yes, except for a certain channel founder that is
[23:17] <Proweler> mmh, you don't like archie?
[23:17] <Milamber> To be honest, not really. She seems to play people against others, and if there's one thing i can's stand then it's abuse of power, and she has plenty of that.
[23:18] * Adanorcil nods slightly.
[23:18] <Proweler> can't say I noticed
[23:18] <Milamber> She even banned me, for questioning said abuse.
[23:18] <Proweler> ouch...
[23:18] <Milamber> the ban was very short, but still
[23:18] <Adanorcil> She's a bit easily ticked off.
[23:19] <Adanorcil> But then again, I bet she gets a lot to digest daily.
[23:19] <Proweler> heh, true, takes patience to talk to her
[23:19] <Adanorcil> Say...
[23:19] <Adanorcil> what about adding in some Indian elements?
[23:19] <Adanorcil> like this
[23:20] <Adanorcil> http://www.thefoodclub.org.uk/Neasden.gif
[23:20] <Proweler> sounds good, you'd have a nice region to draw inspirtaion from. Indian, Persian and Byzantian
[23:20] * Milamber is now known as Milamber|away
[23:20] <Adanorcil> Take a guess where that -huge- building is.
[23:20] <Proweler> Las Vegas
[23:20] <Adanorcil> Guess again
[23:20] <Proweler> London?
[23:21] <Proweler> can't think of anybody else who'd emulate something indian
[23:21] <Adanorcil> In Neasden, which is right next to Wembley.
[23:21] <Adanorcil> London suburb.
[23:21] <Proweler> unless it's a trick qeustion ofcourse
[23:21] <Adanorcil> It's rather strange.
[23:21] <Adanorcil> It's this industrial, gray suburb and suddenly
[23:21] <Adanorcil> Boom
[23:21] <Adanorcil> A huge Indian temple
[23:21] <Proweler> mmh, the english have been a rather long time in india
[23:22] <Adanorcil> I've bee, to that temple, you see.
[23:22] <Adanorcil> Well, it's actually brand new.
[23:22] <Proweler> aah, on the exchange
[23:22] <Adanorcil> Extraordinary building.
[23:22] <Adanorcil> They had the whole thing built in India and then shipped it, bit by bit to Neasden.
[23:23] <Proweler> haha
[23:23] <Adanorcil> Really.
[23:23] <Adanorcil> Was fun, you had to take of your shoes to come in.
[23:23] <Proweler> mmh, obviously
[23:23] <Adanorcil> *off
[23:23] <Adanorcil> Strange thing is...
[23:24] <Adanorcil> there's not a single bolt or screw in it.
[23:24] <Proweler> if you go for the indian I wouldn't go for the verry obvious stuff
[23:24] <Adanorcil> No metal at all, just stacked stones.
[23:24] <Adanorcil> No, ofcourse not.
[23:24] <Adanorcil> Not that excessive decoration.
[23:25] <Adanorcil> What I do like are the "square pinecone" tower.
[23:25] <Adanorcil> If you get what I mean.
[23:26] <Proweler> yea sorta
[23:26] <Adanorcil> This is impressive:
[23:26] <Adanorcil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Mesaverde_cliffpalace_20030914.752.jpg
[23:27] <Adanorcil> They sure have a cool shade.
[23:29] <Proweler> mm, yea
[23:29] <Morden2260> that site was actually a level in duke nukem 3d
[23:30] <Adanorcil> Hehe.
[23:30] <Proweler> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ellora_cave16_003.jpg <- if you strike all the art from the buildings and replace the brown with a sandy texture you got low class buildings
[23:30] <Proweler> *strip
[23:30] <Stalker> Back
[23:31] <Adanorcil> What's that? Indonesian?
[23:31] <Proweler> indian
[23:31] <Adanorcil> aha
[23:31] <Stalker> So anything interesting ?
[23:32] <Proweler> mmh, trouble finding pictures of indian architecture, mostly the taj mahal
[23:32] <Adanorcil> ofcourse.
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[23:32] <Stalker> Hi Vyv
[23:32] <Adanorcil> But that's not very representative.
[23:33] <Adanorcil> Far too late.
[23:33] <Vyvara> Hey there, folks.
[23:33] <Adanorcil> Hello, Vyvara.
[23:33] <Proweler> http://www.edwebproject.org/oman-dubai/pics/nakhal.fort.jpg any use?
[23:33] <Adanorcil> Adding some more elements could work.
[23:34] <Adanorcil> I like the round crennelations.
[23:34] <Adanorcil> And the slightly conic shape of the towzer.
[23:34] <Adanorcil> *tower
[23:34] <Proweler> http://www.indiaholidaypackages.com/images/honeymoon-packages/18-days-north-india-tour/agra-fort-agra.jpg
[23:34] <Adanorcil> See, like that.
[23:35] <Proweler> thats the fort near the taj mahal
[23:35] <Proweler> angra it's called
[23:35] <Proweler> http://www.photo.net/philg/digiphotos/200103-d1-jaipur/amber-fort-over-field.half.jpg <- fits the arid landscape
[23:36] <Vyvara> Hmmm.. forums are running at a snail's pace. :\
[23:36] <Adanorcil> Mmm
[23:36] <Adanorcil> I got an idea.
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[23:38] <Proweler> http://www.foxysislandwalks.com/Samospics/Byzantine_Church_Potami.jpg <- rather interesting
[23:40] <Proweler> http://www.jonathanedunn.com/images/property/fotper1/houses.jpg <- perhaps to imperial but it's common
[23:40] <Proweler> http://www.bellereti.com/jzimm/Venice/photos/12-14.jpg <- mid class byzantine, detail
[23:41] <Proweler> thats from Venice btw
[23:41] <Proweler> http://www.iaa.bham.ac.uk/images3/p5.jpg <- courtyard, greek influences, perhaps an idea for the larger mansions?
[23:42] <Proweler> well, that's about it
[23:42] <Adanorcil> http://www.productionillustration.com/images/ffmesopcity.jpg
[23:42] <Adanorcil> Look at those towers
[23:43] <Proweler> mmh, neat
[23:43] <Proweler> exterior entrance though, thats going to be a pain in the ass
[23:43] <Adanorcil> Anyway, I have to go.
[23:43] <Proweler> cya
[23:43] <Adanorcil> I was speaking about the shape in general.
[23:43] <Adanorcil> Bye
