File Merging

Resadyn · Post by **Resadyn** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:02 pm

TR really wont be able to do anything on OB without a file merger...

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:11 pm

TR won't be able to anything on OB without a nif exporter, etc, etc.
I expect that somebody will:

a) learn how to hex-edit that in (not ideal)

b) make a new copy of TESAME or somesuch with this kind of utility.

We can't just sit on our arses, and wait for somebody else to come up with the goods though.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:24 pm

Not if we have a .exe installer and just have them click 12 files or so in the Data Files menu. We should have an installer and an uninstaller anyway, for convenience.

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:29 pm

12 files?
Each int claim is a separate esp.
Try 1200

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:29 pm

There is a nif exporter now: http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?p=170189

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:30 pm

Macar wrote:There is[i/] a nif exporter now: http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?p=170189

It doesn't have collision detection or proper mapping, making it impossible to reach proper standards.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:35 pm

Lud, ints can be handmerged. Didn't everyone know that?

Exteriors, however, can not be merged by hand.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:37 pm

oops, misread the first post. I though it said "now with havoc, colision, ect."

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:50 pm

[quote="Sload"]Lud, ints can be handmerged. Didn't everyone know that?
quote]

You mean copy-pasting them into new cells?
Or copying the data in a hex-editor?

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:04 pm

Selecting everything in the cell, moving it slightly to the left, undoing, saving.

Resadyn · Post by **Resadyn** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:06 pm

That makes no sense sload.

Andres Indoril · Post by **Andres Indoril** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:07 pm

Yes it does, he's talking about making the files dirty

Resadyn · Post by **Resadyn** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:09 pm

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:51 pm

Its very simple. All of the refs will be marked as "editted" if you do that. So if the file that was the active file wasn't their original file, they are now merged into it.

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:58 pm

Heh heh. Forgot about doing it that way.

12 is still very, very low: think about all the dialogue, quests and creatures being place on top. Not only that, but quests won't be able to be made across more than one ex claim. Apparently they've changed the way mods react with each other for Oblivion.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:10 pm

I have no idea what that would be, but I doubt there's any truth to that. I can't see how things would be different. Further, NPCs and their dialogue can all be merged equally well. Its things like heightmaps and textures that can't be merged. Actually, they might be able to, but I don't know how because I don't do that kind of thing.

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:15 pm

I'm sure some kind of utility will become available anyway, so it hopefully won't be that much of an issue.

The Old Ye Bard · Post by **The Old Ye Bard** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:23 pm

How long did it take for someone to make one for Morrowind after the release?

fanfas · Post by **fanfas** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:38 pm

Well, the CS from morrowind does it on its owne, it as that option

you should know that....

PoHa! · Post by **PoHa!** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:47 pm

To calm the masses: [url=http://timeslip.chorrol.com/TESsnip.html]This may be our best bet, thusfar.[/url]

I've not tried it myself. But at the very least, everyone knows that its being worked on.