Wsg #17 The Atmospheric Art of Hammerfell

lb003g0676 · Post by **lb003g0676** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:52 pm

Well, if you are going to improve it, make sure you post up your improvements.

Heres my submission, as the other thign was just wrong. I wills till colour it in thoghu

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Scumbago, it's your creature, tell me if ones that size are completely out of the question.

Anyway:

Maphia style Thiefs Guild boss, interrogating a ransomed rich Nobles young son. Cor, that was a mouthful.

Newer image below

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:00 pm

wow, i love that pound! especialy your use of ligh.
macar: nice! i realy like the emotion on his face. my only cretique would be to detial the body a bit (it seems bland in comeprison to the awsomeness of the face)

Harke the Apostle · Post by **Harke the Apostle** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:15 am

Nobles young son being tied up: 'I trust you use velvet? I get such a rash when hemp gets wet.'
Thiefs Guild boss: 'Silence!'

Brilliant!

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:42 am

I love it!
Just one tiny nitpick... mr. kidnapped's ear looks like it's coming out of his cheekbone.

lb003g0676 · Post by **lb003g0676** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:43 am

thast true.. it's currently being fixed

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:06 am

Awesome. Now I can make a retarded new avatar.

lb003g0676 · Post by **lb003g0676** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:08 am

Hahahahaha, awesome.

Woah, my mistakes have been recorded in animated gallery. How ashamed I am

. Slgihtly happy too!

EDIT, sorry, i shan't post again so EDITs will suffice.

More atmopsheric, less cartoony.

EDIT:

Even less cartoony below

Fairwater · Post by **Fairwater** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:12 am

Hi everyone, well i sort of have been trolling these forums for almost 3-4 years now and i think it is my time to finally contribute something.

Well this is my Hammerfellian, city. It doesnt really compare to some of the artwork around here but it is the idea i am trying to convey more than artistic prowess. I dont know what city it is..... Gilane Hegathe or Taneth would all work. Let me know what you think. I will pop by and post some more stuff that i do here and there.

[url=http://img122.imageshack.us/my.php?image=city02kd3.jpg][img]http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8573/city02kd3.th.jpg[/img][/url]

PS. does anyone know how to get rid of that blue stuff that hangs arounds some areas of the picture?

Edit i guess i should mention that it is a cliff surounded by water, it might be obvious but on second glance i determined it might confuse some.

lb003g0676 · Post by **lb003g0676** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:31 am

Really good that is. I might have a shot at coloring in a few thigns here Namely that or LN's beautiful landcape. Depneding on which of you want it. And if I ahve time :S.

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:49 am

I think monsieur Fairwater has made something we could use for Rihad. Since the O cities are all small-size, this would be perfect as it's small and 'crowded'.

Pound, I bow.

Harke the Apostle · Post by **Harke the Apostle** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:44 pm

Fairwater wrote:
PS. does anyone know how to get rid of that blue stuff that hangs arounds some areas of the picture?

What program are you using? You can fiddle around with Threshold and Levels. Here is a tutorial for the Gimp:
http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/tomcat7/?PHPSESSID=10e265cfdf1f3d7c9aae0a2f159283ce

Eyeball88 · Post by **Eyeball88** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:28 pm

Okay, this one is a request more than anything, so don't laugh at the piece I threw together. It took me 5 minutes, it's like a "3d sketch."

Basically, the image I have for the town of Stonemoor is one of small, significant beauty in the landscape, surrounding a town that is in itself relatively insignificant.

[url=http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stonemorequickiejb2.jpg][img]http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5157/stonemorequickiejb2.th.jpg[/img][/url]

First, what are you looking at? Well, it's simple. Off in the distance, you have the looming Corten Mountains. Since it's a relatively moist mountain range (Karnver Falls, etc) a waterfall or two will be tumbling down the southern face of the mountain, heading towards Stonemoor. This isn't a concept for the town itself, so I won't include many details for that. Now, in the foreground we have a large stone wall, influenced by the Great Mis Tor, found here:

[url=http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mistor5pc.jpg][img]http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1415/mistor5pc.th.jpg[/img][/url]

The river will flow across the grassland from Corten Mont down to this Tor, snaking in between a few rocky Tors, like this one:

[url=http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dev6lj7.jpg][img]http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7411/dev6lj7.th.jpg[/img][/url]

It won't be a huge flowing river, more of a ambling, bubbling stream. Then, when it finally hits the stone Tor at the end, it flows across the steep rock face in a multitude of tiny little waterfalls, to gather up in a boggy pond at the bottom. The whole bottom of this tor can be a pool of shallow water.

[url=http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=milford2pv0.jpg][img]http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4964/milford2pv0.th.jpg[/img][/url]

This is an image I've had in my mind since I first saw the picture of the Great Mis Tor. It would be a relatively simple few meshes, some landscape coordination, and then a huge pay-off in terms of how beautiful the results will be. There can be small bunches of grass sticking out of the rock faces and blowing in the wind, the soft trickling sound of water over rock, and the sound of frogs croaking/jumping around in the water. So, yeah. Draw it up nice and pretty, then I'll present it to Dexter and be all like "This is what Stonemoor should look like."

Harke the Apostle · Post by **Harke the Apostle** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:01 pm

It's a really cool concept.

ENIGMA* · Post by ENIGMA* » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:07 pm

still open to art?

I have some... but...

I dont think a Schorching Sky would be considered Atmosphric Concept.

Will Post later this afternoon... as I'm at College and don't have acces to a Scaner

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:29 pm

Something done within 30'. A Hammerfell beach or something. It's more of a practice in Photoshop coloring, so I might upload a better version if I keep practicing on this pic.

[url=http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tesddo5.jpg][img]http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2790/tesddo5.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Harke the Apostle · Post by **Harke the Apostle** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:00 am

Here is Stonemoor (aka Twin Peaks

):

[url=http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stonemoorqb8.jpg][img]http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1797/stonemoorqb8.th.jpg[/img][/url]

ENIGMA* · Post by ENIGMA* » Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:24 am

Here it is...

I though of doing a better render on the comp, so I did...

[url=http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=searingskyin5.jpg][img]http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/2087/searingskyin5.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:38 am

Enigma: While that is pretty nice and realistic, it's very generic. I'd suggest you add Masser and Secunda semi-transparent in the background. That should enhance it's relevance to Hammerfell.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:45 pm

Cool scumbago. Very art deco!

Editized: BTW, here is something I forgot about. I finished this ages ago but here it is. LN's concubabes in living color.

[url=http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doubletroublewm3.jpg][img]http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9837/doubletroublewm3.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:49 pm

Macar wrote:
[url=http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doubletroublewm3.jpg][img]http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9837/doubletroublewm3.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Now I wouldn't mind taking them out.

Very nice work, Macar, and great proportion Lady N.

Scumbag: That is simply awesome. I love the odd, colourful style. Inspiring.

Harke: Looks great! If I could make a suggestion, could you blur out the hard pen/cil lines? Might appeal more.

Harke the Apostle · Post by **Harke the Apostle** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:51 pm

Recolouring:

[url=http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stonemorecolourpv8.jpg][img]http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3671/stonemorecolourpv8.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:24 pm

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

Why oh why would you do that? WHHHHHHHYYYY!?!?!?!

Sorry but that is awful. Take that back right now. You started off really fantastic, a nice little village, good colour scheme if slightly too green. The tor-hilly things were perfect and the cliff, though a fantasy element from a geographically realistic point of view, fit very very nicely.

Then you put crappy foil christmas leaves around the bottom, put your sun thing in the corner, made stonemoor into a homoerotic model village, twisted the colours into the psychadelic range, and made the stones leopard print.

Lay off da hooch, mon.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:29 pm

I think it's pretty, just to spite you.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:36 pm

looks like sea amoenenes instead of plants.

Harke the Apostle · Post by **Harke the Apostle** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:48 pm

Jale wrote: ..., made stonemoor into a homoerotic model village,...

It's Brighton Pavillion.

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:55 pm

I think Harke's colorizing is great, except, the town sucks. It should be removed completely. Thenit'd be great.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:00 pm

Harke the Apostle wrote:
Jale wrote: ..., made stonemoor into a homoerotic model village,...
It's Brighton pavillion.

I wondered why it reminded me of homosexuality.

(for those of you not in the know, Brighton is the gay capital of Britain. Every day is mardi gras.)

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:39 pm

i did a sunset over a random redguard town. its insired by a photo.

[url=http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wsg17sunsetpx3.jpg][img]http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5530/wsg17sunsetpx3.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:02 am

Pretty!

lb003g0676 · Post by **lb003g0676** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:08 am

LN & Macar: The figures are perfect, just how I like anatomy

and Macar, a beautiful paint job.

LN: Like this, Always a nice way to focus on skies is like that, and i think you've done it just fine, poster or watered down acrylic paints on paper (by the looks of it) isn't an easy method to utilise.

Scumbago: That is just, cool, it's indescribable. I just like ti a lot, the pastelly colours and everything, it would be a great style to develop upon for atmospherics. Great submission.

Harke: First one good, in fact really quite peaceful looking, and I like it a lot. Second version.... Well. There's a famous artist who designed wallpaper. William Morris. Looks kinda like you pasted a layer of wallpaper over your picture. I suppose you could call it interesting.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:20 pm

Nice, LN! It's good to see someone working with a tangeable medium every once and a while.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:45 pm

yah, im trying to acumilate pieces for my protfolio so im practicing in acrylic and watercolor more now.

Ali · Post by **Ali** » Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:10 pm

Ive done a couple of pix but Ive got 2 move to the Uk 2moro instead of next week so I haven't got round 2 finishing them. (sorry if they're similar 2 other ppls works, it wasn't intentional...)

[url=http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1y005mx1.jpg][img]http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3746/img1y005mx1.th.jpg[/img][/url]

this is based on a sunrise from one I took a foto of back in Kenya

[url=http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1042yi4.jpg][img]http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1679/img1042yi4.th.jpg[/img][/url]

and 1 sketch of a forebearer city i've been working into, with an emphasis on African elements

[url=http://img283.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1002bv6.jpg][img]http://img283.imageshack.us/img283/9991/img1002bv6.th.jpg[/img][/url]

you'll notice ive started using thumbnails also

, (my internet was shut off so I had 2 use my freinds 56k dialup...Oh God my full sized pictures were damn annoying)
sorry about them bein all unfished, and a probaly wont back on the site 4 bout a month or so inshallah...

Post by **Gnomey** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:47 pm

Edit: There's no real need for all this writing, it just concerns some drawigs that you'll find in my next post.

Gnomey

Harke the Apostle · Post by **Harke the Apostle** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:54 pm

I like your Forebear city with the eyes painted on the buildings. Perhaps we can use this for one of the Hammerfell cities?

lb003g0676 · Post by **lb003g0676** » Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:19 pm

WB Gnomey, haven't seen you around in a while.

I have also had a shot at Eyeballs scene. Which I will grab from my dads tomorrow. And, Ali, that town seen is great. I like the more African influence.
I have alos strated working on my otehr submission. It's too greaphics, i want more realism. Like Sirwoot had pointed out about his ear, tehre are a few stupid things.

EDIT:

[url=http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maphiatg001goignwellmorepersonagebettererto8.jpg][img]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3913/maphiatg001goignwellmorepersonagebettererto8.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:32 am

What's going on there?

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:11 am

lb003g0676 wrote: Maphia style Thiefs Guild boss, interrogating a ransomed rich Nobles young son.

That.

ENIGMA* · Post by ENIGMA* » Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:53 am

Now as for Morgoth's Suguestion.

A .DDS Viewer, some sly copy screen tactics, and a bit of the Gimp, and I redid my little sky.

hope it's better

[url=http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scorchedskyaa5.jpg][img]http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3136/scorchedskyaa5.th.jpg[/img][/url]

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:08 pm

Wow, everyone here's got familiar with Photoshop but me! Gotta find time, gotta find time, gotta find time... Awesome promo work imo, everyone here has a very nice vision for Hammerfell and depicts it with precision. Love this progress.