Dave's Music Showcase

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:21 am

I guess this would be the first song you'll hear of mine, I just made it a little bit ago, I was just playing around on the synth. I used a Roland Synthesizer and Cubase SX to make this file. Be warned there are more mistakes than I can count...but it passed inspection

I plan on making some more specifically for the mod. I just wanted to get something new off the ground to show you guys.

[url]http://media.putfile.com/Playing-Around-25[/url]

Enjoy!

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:48 am

Hey Gesshoku! I like the peice- very nicely composed. However, your synthesizer leaves a little to be desired... Is it possible for you to upload your music as midi? If so I might be able to wring some less synthesized sound out of it.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:09 am

I cannot save it as a midi file and still have the same sounds, if I did change it, I would (or you) would need a program to re-instate the sounds, I will though see what filtering I can do with my program and re-upload the file.

EDIT: I also have a better synthesizer at the studio, when I get there tomorrow I will look at things. I might just have to do things from there instead. Also, I don't have any MIDI writing programs, I have programs that will record from a midi device, but I have nothing I can make straight from midi. I guess I could get a notation program....when money comes my way, but until then...I'm stuck

EDIT2: I just noticed this synthesizer I have here at home has midi connections, enabling me to use it as an external midi device, thus solving the problem...even though going to the studio would solve the problem as well, but I am usually working when I am there, seeing as I own it and am the only employee, things get heavy sometimes...anyway, I will get this all set up tomorrow and try another arrangement.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:19 am

It's alright if the sounds are different in the midi- I can change them easily and I'll know what they should be becuase of the mp3 you posted. But, if you think that you can do it without my help- go ahead by all means. I was just trying to help. But it's easier if I dont have to

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:31 am

I would take you up on your offer, except the software I am using won't allow me to export to midi, unless I started with a midi file, I can use a wav/mp3 midi converter but it usually adds tons of "fluke" notes, so to speak. I don't want to put burden on you but if you can find a midi converter and get it to work right, by all means go ahead and fix it for me, I'd appreciate it a lot.

In the mean time, I will work on things on my end, let me know if you come up with anything, or if you don't wanna take too much of your time.

Thanks.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:51 pm

I am at the studio now, I stopped by the audio store this morning and picked up a copy of sibelius 4 and Sonar 2 I also got some midi hardware, I can't do much now, I am working. But I will get to it today sometime. In the mean time, macar, did you try anything with the mp3?

Thanks.

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:40 pm

hey, thats not to bad, as you said a few mistakes but still, would fit in nicely. i've been working on some nice acoustic guitar instrumental's that suit public and battle but then there's always the problem of getting a nice smooth track change with a script. awkward...

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:25 pm

as I said, I went and got sebelius today (only 1 or 2 dollars...) and I have been messing around with it, and this is my first thing I have come up with. It's not materpiece material by all means, just something to try the program out. It only uses two instruments. I am, this very moment, going to start on something a little more oriented to this project, and it should be out tomarrow.

This piece orgrinally had a trumpet harmony as well, but after mastering the file I didn't like the way it sounded.

I have learned many things in making this musical piece, which will in turn make the next one much simpler and more in depth.

[url]http://media.putfile.com/First-Sibelius-Song[/url]

There you have it.

I would like to also know from macar if the physical sound of the file is any better than my other.

Thanks.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:34 pm

You got Sibelius for a buck?! What version?

As for the quality- it's a lot better but the strings sound really stilted. I dont think it's your fault but they need to be legato- especialy in a peice like that. As always- if you want you can send me a midi.

Can wait to hear your next one.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:42 pm

Macar wrote:Can wait to hear your next one.

Was that literal? hmm...

And PM me where you'd like me to send a midi, we can do things from there.

Oh and, about Sibelius...it was some random verson...something like 4...I think...and I paid $4.21 for it...or atleast around there some where...hehe.

Toodles.

Post by **Gnomey** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:24 pm

gesshoku wrote:
Macar wrote:Can wait to hear your next one.
Was that literal? hmm...

I think it was a typo. ("Can't").

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:07 pm

I figured so...or atleast I hope so...

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:25 pm

Here we are, with my next piece, I believe it's a bit better than the last. There are a few dynamics issues, due to that fact that I am using a touch sensitve midi device, although..after I made the file of course...I realized I could deactivate the touch sensitivy. So even better next time.

[url]http://media.putfile.com/Escape-57-64[/url]

There she is, enjoy.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:11 am

Sounding good. Please send me the midi and I'll doctor it.

In the mean time I give you the offical; Moderator Recomendation

Let's see if it works... I should make a big picture to use for my recomendation... *scurries off to do that*

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:19 am

You got it. Thanks for the recommendation.

Each time I do a song with Sibelius I learn different things, so like I said, my next one will be much improved.

Do as you wish with the file, and return your results to me.

Thanks
And Thanks again.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:09 am

[img]http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8915/moderatorrecqe4.jpg[/img]

This will be my new recomendation

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:12 am

hehe, I love it.

I hope it has some pull...

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:50 pm

Well, I am not sure how to do polls on the forum, so it will do it my way.

I would like to know which of the following two links (same song) sounds and "feels" better. Critique me please.

The old version is "A" and the new is "B"

A:) [url]http://media.putfile.com/Escape-57-64[/url]

B:) [url]http://media.putfile.com/Escape-Version-B[/url]

Please let me know.

Thanks.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:58 pm

The main difference I hear is that 1 has reverb- that's alway better than dry- IMO.

I think it would sound better without the male voice- it sounds unrealistic.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:00 pm

I will make some changes.

PoHa! · Post by **PoHa!** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:07 pm

Hehe... I can't really give much input on music (since I know very very little about it) and therefore I don't pay as much attention to showcases that have it as a theme.

I'd imagine that the Admins are the same, though I dunno.

The point is, it seems like there's a necessity of PMing to get anyone promoted around here

Promoted. And stuff.

I can't change your "TR Member" title though. An Admin will have to do that.[/b]

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:11 pm

yay! I have more to come as well. Things are good. So then it's official and all right? I hope....

Anyway, if it is official, I am sure and admin will get around to it sooner or later.

Thanks again and again.

Post by **Gnomey** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:14 pm

I think it's rather technical. You are a TR Modder, but when that little name comes up above your pic, you belong.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:19 pm

Well we will just have to hurry that little name up then eh?

Post by **Haplo** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:16 pm

Done. Awesome work on the music tracks gesshoku

Welcome to the fold. You can only create polls in the first post of each thread.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:27 pm

I guess this is what happens when bordem strikes....it didn't even edit right...grr. Anyway, it has nothing to do with modding, but I plan to try and get a battle theme or a dungeon theme going here tonight or in the morning.

Well, here is the link....

[url]http://media.putfile.com/Bordem[/url]

be warned...don't expect too much!

Pug · Post by **Pug** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:29 pm

Might want to try throwing in some eco and reverb to take the edge off the synth.

Escape B is sounds spot on though, could maybe use a little soft percussion in places, triangles, tambourine, cymbals or somthin, nothing too heavy.

Anyway, nice work. Welcome aboard and congrats, look forward to hearing more of your work.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:59 pm

gesshoku wrote:I guess this is what happens when bordem strikes....it didn't even edit right...grr. Anyway, it has nothing to do with modding, but I plan to try and get a battle theme or a dungeon theme going here tonight or in the morning.

Well, here is the link....

[url]http://media.putfile.com/Bordem[/url]

be warned...don't expect too much!

Dave. The boredom peice has some potential. First of all- it gets a litte to repetative after a while. That, and I think it would be a good idea to replace the bass drum with timpani or taiko

Pug, buddy, nice to see you. When are you going to write something new for us

Pug · Post by **Pug** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 1:44 pm

First chance I get

which is today and tomorrow.

Sorry I've not been doing much, life has been keeping me busy (gave up on HOI2, cant finish a game, keep restarting).

Went and got myself a new job last week, more money but longer hours. Only have sundays off now, and I only have sundays off if I'm not away to shetland or the west coast working. I've also been laying a new patio in my garden, so thats been taking up my spare time, it's almost done though. I'll try to get somthing done soon. If not, feel free to demote my ass

I was planing on doing somthing with a spannish guitar.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:53 pm

This is the 3rd, and likely final re-mastering of the song Escape. The main difference between B and C is I took out the vocal choir. Also in C I forgot to add one mastering effect, so it's velocity (volume) is all over the place, if by any chance this song goes somewhere I will edit it to perfection, but until then I feel this song has come to an end. One more thing, when I added the plate (reverb) the trumpet became very metallic sounding, I know why, but I thought I would just tell ya so you don't have to point out ALL my mistakes

[url]http://media.putfile.com/Escape-Version-C[/url]

Thanks for listening.
Enjoy!

EDIT: After listening to them all again and again, I hate this version. B still stands as my preference. The voices don't sound too un-realistic (to me) for a number of reasons. One is that they are in "normal" vocal range for a male. Plus, this comes from working in a studio, adding a base vocal line brings out character in a piece. The one thing I might change is adding some percussion, if I do I will post again, if not, it's what it is.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:27 am

First off, this type of music isn't really my style, so the following "blurp" of music came out of thin air...or perhaps some divine intervention or sumthin...

Anyway, what it is...it's the start of a battle sequence, but I have been sitting here for hours trying to come up with an intro/ending and it's driving me crazy. So I guess I will just post the file anyway, seeing as it may take me a week to come up with something of this sort.

Macar, Pug...if either of you can think of a way to add on to it, or perhaps change something, go right ahead, PM me and I will upload the file for you.

Everyone else, please let me know if it's even going to fit, although even if it doesn't I will still finish it.

Thanks for taking the time.

[url]http://media.putfile.com/PRE-Battle-seq[/url]

I await response!

EDIT: It has NOT been mastered so "physically" it sounds like stinky socks. Also, due to the fact that I have been able to go anywhere since I came up with what I did, this "blurp" is 30 seconds of repetitivness basically

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:22 pm

What it needs is some sort of descant in a higher instrument after a few bars of the repitition. I'd say something like french horn would work best.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:57 pm

I will play around with the battle sequence later today.

Next, I lied....I have a final-final version of Escape. The only difference between this version (B-B) and the "master" version (B) is I have added some rev cymbal, and adjusted the EQ curve. Other than that it is exactly the same.

[url]http://media.putfile.com/EscapeB-B[/url]

I was also wondering if this piece would fit anywhere in a mod project. Ifso, do I need to change anything? If not, no worries, I can always come up with more.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:23 pm

I've done a little bit with the battle sequence. I have two versions, one with reverb, one without. I am sure you can tell the difference. Anyway, let me know what needs to be changed. It is really really short...I might add on, but this is a good teaser anyway.

[url]http://media.putfile.com/Battle-65[/url]

^^^^ Without Reverb, mastered louder ^^^^

[url]http://media.putfile.com/BattleB[/url]

^^^^ Has Reverb, less "intrusive" ^^^^

As always, I await input.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:20 pm

The first peice- escape- is miles better. The only thing is- thoward it needs a little more drive to it. If you used piano or harp to play broken chords on eighth notes, it would be just about perfect. I can definately see this being incorperated!

Battle still needs some work. You are on the right track- you just need to develop it more- combat tracks should be at least 1:00 in length. (and just for your refference- the standard length for explore music is 2:00)

I'm glad to see your devotion to our project- keep up the good work.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:09 am

I not sure if the harp through the whole song sounds okay, I know the rythm is off, I am just seeing what can be done. I tried two different octaves, I need some input. Should I just have the harp at the end, after the trumpet solo, or should I keep it through the song? (of course fixing the syncapation)

Let me know.

[url]http://media.putfile.com/EscapeB-B-A[/url]

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:39 am

I did actualy mean after or durring the trumpet solo. Also, I meant with the harp playing notes at 2x that rate- to give more movement.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:43 am

Ai'ght I understand, I will fix it, I wasn't quite sure what you meant, but I get it now. As you said, I will subdivide the rythm and see what can be done, what about pitch? High or low? I kinda like high better, I will see what I can come up with.

Thanks.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 3:01 am

EDIT: Ignore this post...I will update on progress tomorrow.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:51 am

Is it tomorrow yet? It feels like it should be...I can't sleep at all, so I thought I would finish "Escape" I will openly accept more input, but I doubt there is much more I can change, this song seems to me it has reached it's potential, or atleast as close as it's going to get.

[url]http://media.putfile.com/Escape-75[/url]

Let me know if it's worthy.

Thanks

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