Knights Of The Nine

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:44 pm

Well, knights of the nine sucks! (in my opinion)
total lack of origonal questing ideas and poorly made new items. it all seems very rushed to me.
Knights of The Nine is the new DLC Oblivion Mod for those that don't know.
Post your thoughts

Knights Stuff
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Redesigned Xivali Stuff
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skittles · Post by **skittles** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:34 pm

the models look nice in my opinion. (i'm not modeler extremo)

knights of the nine, meaning nine divines?

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:36 pm

aye. it's not so much the models that bother me really. it's just the whole quest line and the majority of it being FedEx style quests. doesn't really add to much to the game other than slightly over powered armour and half an hour play time.

skittles · Post by **skittles** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:37 pm

is it just alot of running back-n-forth?

angelus6 wrote:half an hour play time.

it really depends on the player though

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:11 pm

well, kinda. it's very "go here, kill this, bring back item etc" but 30mins for a good player maybe an hour for a 'real' noob

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:13 am

So much for the 15 hrs they had promised. Not that we shouldn't expect it.

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:40 am

lol, indeed. i mean, i shouldn't even have played this yet (as it's not out untill December 4th) so im probably breaking the NDA but... 15 hours is a total joke really. and it's nigh on impossible to find where your supposed to go to start the damn guild. actually, thats where the 15 hours is - trying to find out how to start the quest

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:06 pm

Ah, great. $10? Why don't they pay us instead? Stirk's certainly more promising.

Colhir · Post by **Colhir** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:58 pm

$10, you lucky lucky bastards! its Ã‚Â£14.99 over here and thats one play.com!! by my reckoning thats.... hmmm Ã‚Â£29! so im not getting it, i prefer modding for morrowind plus i'd rather eat pubes.

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:00 pm

haha. well. i have Beta! haha. blatent breaking of my NDA here. woohoo

CleverClothe · Post by **CleverClothe** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:19 pm

El Scumbago wrote:Ah, great. $10? Why don't they pay us instead? Stirk's certainly more promising.

TR > DLC

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:54 pm

El Scumbago wrote:Ah, great. $10? Why don't they pay us instead? Stirk's certainly more promising.

What, you guys DON'T get paid??? hm...

lb003g0676 · Post by **lb003g0676** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:53 am

I vowed after i saw how shit OB was, I wouldn't ever waste my money on a downlaod.

Then I joined TR, now I am fulfilled. All pisstaking aside thoguh, I think that I would expect this from a mod group, and what we're trying to achieve from a landmass expansion ($10).

skittles · Post by **skittles** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:41 am

certainly though TR should be sold in stores (but that would coast money, and we don't have that lol) it is more detailed then the original game double lol

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:24 am

angelus6 wrote:lol, indeed. i mean, i shouldn't even have played this yet (as it's not out untill December 4th) so im probably breaking the NDA but... 15 hours is a total joke really. and it's nigh on impossible to find where your supposed to go to start the damn guild. actually, thats where the 15 hours is - trying to find out how to start the quest

Personally, I find this a huge improvement over the spambox telling you in the dungeon that your great granduncle just died and you inherited his knighthood title, so you should go to the new mapmarker pronto.

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:52 am

Porca miseria... I believe though that JOG (maker of Thievery In The Imperial City) has made a small mod that fixes the annoying spambox-style messages with those plug-ins.

-Saddistic_Angel- · Post by **-Saddistic_Angel-** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:15 pm

o.O I hate mods that add weapons or armor, clothes etc. without a quest associated with them. Ehh, boring.

fanfas · Post by **fanfas** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:56 pm

Something's not right here.... 30 minutes .... c'mom they say it's a new guild with a questline and stuff you just could not finnish it in 30 minutes. If that would to be true Bethesda could easly be sued for false advertising...

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:05 pm

i doubt that its 30 minutes, i think he was just exadurating to make a point. from what im hearing its supose to realy good on the lore point... cant wait till it Dls.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:12 pm

Reading about it on other fora, from people who've played it (it's been released, what's that talk about NDA? I saw it in shops as of 20 minutes ago!), that it's definitely longer than 30 minutes, and that finding where to start the quest isn't that hard if you ask around about rumors -- remember the Solstheim topic in Morrowind, added by rumors? -- you learn about some problem in Anvil's chapel.

And there's definitely a quest associated to the new armor. Indeed, one of the first quest is finding the "crusader helm" which is an old relic.

Also, there are a lot of new books.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:13 pm

hms, lets just say that i didnt buy the mod from the store...

anyhow, i think ill just go play it now. see what it has to offer and stuff.

btw, since this is an official expansion, should we use it in our mod?

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:28 pm

No, our decision was that we would not use any of the official Oblivion add-ons in our work. Full expansions are another story, but this crap is anything but.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:43 pm

This mods definitely rocks. Brought the feeling of good old Morrowind back.

-Saddistic_Angel- · Post by **-Saddistic_Angel-** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:47 am

*Definitely.
If I can find it somewhere for nothing, and it brings back the feeling of Morrowind, I'll download it.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:10 pm

Are we allowed to republish the books? We do it for previous games and it will be at TIL.

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:16 am

as far as i know, since you have to pay for DLC mods then Bethesda can sue/close down this project for basically distributing content they charge for, for free. even if it's something as minor as a book. i think anyway. hence why Knights of the Nine and Vile Lair were done in a new version of the CS so the files cannot be opened in the existing public CS. it is possible with a HexEditor but thats a differant matter entierly...

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:24 am

wait. they updated their version of the CS or whatever so that we can't open the .esps in our version?

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:25 am

yup! thats exactally it. try it for your self. you get a lovely "This .exe is of an older version. sorry, can't open - HAHAHA. love bethesda" message. well, pretty close anyway[/b]

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:35 am

There's hex editting. TIL's going to get it done some time and we can just copy from there.

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:37 am

which is fine. but it still remains that bethesda can sue us for distributing content that must be paid for, for free. they'll see it just the same as getting it off a torrent site. best bet would be to try and contact them for permission i guess. but i can't see it happening

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:38 am

I believe you have to pay for Morrowind and Daggerfall too.

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:42 am

no, it's the mod content i mean. the game content is fine to re-use it's because u have to pay seperatly for the mod content then it's a problem to them.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:54 am

Sload wrote:There's hex editting. TIL's going to get it done some time and we can just copy from there.

If all you want is the text from the books, it's even simpler to just open the esp with a good text editor, such as UltraEdit or Programmer's Notepad (or Emacs or Vim!).