Ghogiel's Showcase [Updated 26/11/06]

Eyeball88 · Post by **Eyeball88** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:17 am

If you want something specific to do, just check out this thread over here, and claim something if you're interested in trying!

http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=16587

I'll have an Architecture, a Weapon/Armor and a Clutter thread up in the near future, as more concept art flows in.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:52 pm

question, is ghogiel still working/planing to work for us?

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:06 pm

I don't work for anybody.

Also don't be confused. I have 1 of my own mods in progress. Since I have also been collaborating with a modeler called necron on another mod. and have made various misc objects/weapons ect and a nord long ship for Skyrim. I work purely as freelance and wish to have no responsibilities in these larger mods. I just make models because they are the ones I want to make.

however.....

I may do a big juicey whole suit of armor from the concept art I have been eyeing up for months. http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8959/serpentine2zc.th.jpg
and I likey these too
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1475/dunedweller22fx.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8343/armourhamfel1kk.jpg

sound fair?

oh and I'll update my showcase while I'm here...as you can see I have learnt a lot

http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c85/lego-botz/?sc=3

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:09 pm

i ment work for us as "model something for the project" not "defote all of your time to TR and nothing else"

as for the armory mod, ibe been watching it for a while now and its looking realy cool.

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:20 pm

Its weird sometimes I just get the feeling people just want a pet modeler on the end of a leash is all. Please spend 25hrs of your life Ghogiel modeling and textureing and rigging my power ranger suit....PLLLLEEEAAaasssseeeeee

I don't really do requests either(I slip on occasion if asked nicely)

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:24 pm

er, if you arent going to model anything for us anytime soon why did you even join the project? i was just asking if you even have any interest in making anything for us and your acting like i want to make you my personal modeling bitch.

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:33 pm

Oh sorry that wasn't directed at TR or aything.

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:21 am

Well, since the question was asked. Why did I even join the project? well you see when I joined I was trying to learn to model. I thought it maybe wise to join a modding forum. Perhaps I would be able to acquire the knowledge and get a few tid bits of info. And encouragement hear and there. It seemed logical. At the time I didn't actually know if anything I would make would be of any use.

that said... who wants to touch it?
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c85/lego-botz/wipserpent.gif

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:45 pm

wow, thats a prety nice model dude. whats the poly count etc?

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:25 pm

not that high really.

its 11k tri for the whole suit. at the minute. theres gonna be at least another 1k before it is finished.

question: anyone know what material is the armor made from?

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:08 pm

dude, I just saw your stuff for the first time - the majorness of my props could not be greater.

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:52 pm

Not to mention the quality of that dwemer armor. Excellent.

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:12 am

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c85/lego-botz/serprender2.gif

well heres my stab at a concept texture. snake leather and bonemold or something.

any thoughts

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:54 pm

i think it should be gilded, being that it is (if i rember correctly) an upper class expensive armor.

i always imagine it like in this picture:http://moddb.com/images/cache/mods/70/7086/gallery/water_41773.jpg

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:27 am

I see....... Lol. I try to avoid metalalics. Never could paint them well.

Its almost done now, modeled and UVed. aside from some basic texturing. I may have some time to try out a metalic/ golden scheme on it.

I have some UVmaps if anyone can paint metal work worth a damn.....they are welcomed to try

. Might be better than my future attempt.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:11 pm

send em too me, id love to try. i have a good gold tex lying around anyhow.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:51 pm

Nice work so far. Check out this link for more info on the Serpentine Armor you're modelling.

http://mods.moddb.com/gallery/image/41773/

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:01 pm

I think I have a good idea for the texture.

Basically it is indoril.

Which is high qlty bonemold, A prestigious armor in its own right. But inlayed and gilded with gold trim.

Well thats the hard part over with.

understanding the material, how it's made, who's it for and its function are essential perquisites before I can move further.

Its a really clean mesh. so it'll be a cinch to rig. I am really getting this armor thing down.

What about the pauldrons or lack of? Maybe beef them up abit?

edit: if there is are loads of those snake designs and motifs hanging about. I would like a load of them to scribe into the armor. Borders a are most needed. I am being uber lazy and not drawing them myself lol

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:07 pm

I'd suggest that you pm Lutemoth (the maker) to discuss and get the best out of it. Looking really good this far, keep it up Ghogiel.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:27 pm

Lutemoth has a variety of designs drawn. It would be best to contact him personally, though if you feel like browsing through his concept art thread it is here:

http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=15158

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:15 am

I think I PMed Lutemoth a couple weeks ago. no reply.

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:48 am

I'm not surprised, he tends to neglect the pm function and purpose! Better make a post in his thread then.

Nalin · Post by **Nalin** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:35 pm

Ghogiel wrote:...who wants to touch it?
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c85/lego-botz/wipserpent.gif

Who doesn't would be a better question, Awesome! (in the true "Awe inspiring" sence of the word)

Though bonemold is Dunmeri through and through (as far as i am aware - correct me if i'm wrong though), Some kind of metalwork seems muchmore apt to me - a tarnished looking one preferably. I'm really looking forward to seeing more of your stuff!

Post by **Gnomey** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:51 pm

Maybe even ceramic? Though gilt ceramic is going a bit far...

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:59 pm

Ceramic armor?! It'd be the same as a Stone Armor, only lighter. And unprotective.

Post by **Gnomey** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:12 pm

Well, I forgot what the right name is, but by Lutemoth's concept art she drew some. I'm guessing that something is added to it to make it stronger or something, like steel is often added to iron weapons to strengthen them, and vise-versa.

Edit:

In case you don't recall, I'll detail the concept:
Redguard smiths are well adept at forging alloys and metals through heated clays. This process makes much of their swords, which makes both a flexable and sturdy blade. The ceramic armor, however, is something of an entirely different process from conventional metal. A guarded list of ground ingredients (very much similar to the items that make fine china, hence the name), which are often easier to aquire than mountain ores, make this armour. Many repeated steps of heating and additional ingredients are made included over time during forging, until the end result is a glass-like, opaque white plate armour. This forging is very special, as it cannot be shaped after cooling. Many remark on it's ornate painted glaze, and it's similarity to glass armour, but it is certainly heavier than light glass. To free movement, chain mail is equipped under the shirt, rather than greaves and rerebraces

Hmm, rather long, I hope you don't mind, I didn't want everyone to start a wild search over Lutemoth's huge concept art page.

This seems fitting to the high-quality armour, though as I said putting gold over ceramic seems rather strange. The perfect thing for a symbol of status, medium to heavy by the sound of it.

Radnurag · Post by **Radnurag** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:33 am

In that case I'd say HEAVY

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:46 am

Anyway, this conversation doesn't belong here, this is the showcase of another person after all. If someone has good ideas about new materials and alloys, I'm all for discussing it in a new thread in the Tavern.

Post by **Gnomey** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:13 pm

Well, I was merely giving the description to Ghogiel in case he wanted to use that armour, I had thought by the comments in Lutemoth's thread that there wasn't much argument on whether ceramic armour should be implemented or not.

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:08 pm

K....so bonemold is dunmer. Didn't really cross my mind that.

I actually want or rather need to have a discussion on the armors material. It will not go any further untill It works in my head.

I kinda like the ceramic idea. but even a lacquered metal like Japanese and samurai armor would work on it.

Someone can open a thread to discuss this armors materials would be cool. As long as there is something everyone agrees on then I can give it a shot.

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:25 am

That is something everyone can use for inspiration and such, I'm stepping in and making one in the Private Tavern. CAs, Modellers and Lore Experts are kindly requested for embarkation there. Thank you.

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:11 pm

Lady Nerevar wrote:send em too me, id love to try. i have a good gold tex lying around anyhow.

Wait...I missed that....WOW an offer to try the most evil of all acts...... texturing!

I'll pray for your safe return from the hellish damnation of eternal photoshop torture.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:51 pm

i dont mind texturing. its putting new objects in game that i deem the most hellish of acts (cause i still havent goten a single one of my models to work properly)

if the UV map is good, texturing should be rather easy

Ghogiel · Post by **Ghogiel** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:40 am

No way! putting weapons and armor in game takes 10mins.

statics are pretty much the same. I guess creatures is a fraction more complicated than armor. and architecture well....I have avoided that so far.

anyway. UV maps. They could be better.....I have been trying to do my homework lately on them. Mine are accurate enough. But they're not that easy to paint though. There is some skills left to learn.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:53 am

The snake armor should be porcelain, its real name is Ra Satakalaam Armor. Make sure the helm looks like a snake's head, that's the most important part of the piece.

Looks great so far, though.