[Stirk] World Error Reporting (Old)

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:45 pm

I cant start oblivion up with Stirk installed.

If I have the mod activated oblivion just ctd a few seconds after start up. As soon as I deactivate Stirk, my game runs fine.

I think this might be due to the number of mods I have installed but I dont know.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:52 pm

well, the way to test that is to dissable something other then stirk and see if it works. im not sure how an error like that could posibly ocur.

how many mods are you running anyways? the limit, if there is one, is realy high.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:04 pm

50-60?
And stirk is definetly causing the problems. If its just me having problems like this I wouldnt worry about it.

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:12 pm

What's the mod limit? I want to say somewhere around 255.

Richard · Post by **Richard** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:22 am

255 I think (never tested it, just read somewhere)

Richard · Post by **Richard** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:23 am

Mostly not really 'errors' as such, more imperfections:

*The stern of the ship on Stirk is ever so slightly buried in the mud
*The wooden fencing on the island seems about 30cm too high in most places (when compared to Beth's usage of it)
*The doors to the miner's shacks and the mine itself glow golden orange in the daytime (possibly only under certain light). Looks as if an orange bulb is too close to them or something. This wasn't noticeable at night
*When approaching the island by swimming, only the trees are visible until the cells load up close (I assume LOD just hasn't been done yet)
*There are two crates on the NW end of the dock on Stirk, the smaller one on the bottom. It looks as though it would (if we had real wind in the game) blow over into the water. Perhaps their positions should be reversed so the big one is on the bottom?

Sorry for lack of cell references, I had exited the game before I read the guidelines =/

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:45 am

Never mind the cells, it's easy to locate the flaws you mentioned. As for the LOD issue, it's been solved we just didn't upload a new "fixed" version with the correct LOD files.

LazyMonk · Post by **LazyMonk** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:56 pm

the wrecked ship cannot be entered, the world cell door isn't linked to the interior cell door (I checked in the CS).

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:05 pm

My world map disappears when I load the Stirk plugin. Is the Hammerfell map supposed to appear?

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:38 pm

El Scumbago wrote:Never mind the cells, it's easy to locate the flaws you mentioned. As for the LOD issue, it's been solved we just didn't upload a new "fixed" version with the correct LOD files.

Please don't say this. We really need people to stick to format.

LazyMonk: Uh.. oops. Forgot about that.

Noirgrim · Post by **Noirgrim** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:06 pm

Morden wrote:My world map disappears when I load the Stirk plugin. Is the Hammerfell map supposed to appear?

The Stirk.esp file needs to point to the new in-game maps, which have been added to OoT. Also, the map data needs to change, as written in the Maps submission thread in the OoT submission forum.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:35 pm

Cell: the one with the goblin cave
Location: goblin cave exterior
Error: the door is incorectly positioned and you can see into the rock

LazyMonk · Post by **LazyMonk** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:45 pm

cell: lower mine shaft
the door leading to polle gold mine (Tr07002Mine02) is duplicated, there 2 one on top of the other.

cell: polle gold mine (Tr07002Mine02)
The doors to upper and lower mine shafts need a key but none is assigned to them.

Morgoth Bauglir · Post by **Morgoth Bauglir** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:48 pm

Don't really know where to post this, but when I'm on Stirk my computer starts to lag (don't know if write it that way, but I mean that the game stops for a while and goes on after that stop, something like that) badly. I traveled (fast travel from the Jerall mountains) there immediatly when I started up Oblivion. Oblivion lags sometimes but this is really to much. Got an idea how this can be fixed???

By the way, i'm using a very few mods: Natural habitat, OoT, Stirk (ofcourse...), sauron armour set

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:59 pm

it dosent happen around the fort perchance? that are is quite high poly, even after the statue was reduced.

skittles · Post by **skittles** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:06 pm

Noirgrim wrote:
Morden wrote:My world map disappears when I load the Stirk plugin. Is the Hammerfell map supposed to appear?
The Stirk.esp file needs to point to the new in-game maps, which have been added to OoT. Also, the map data needs to change, as written in the Maps submission thread in the OoT submission forum.

so is there anyway to fix this? (kindof to the OB CS i just started using it after i started up modeling so i lost my touch)

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:12 pm

Yes. By pointing the Stirk map to the new map.

In fact, that was the main change between version 0.85 and 0.86. In other words, it has already been done.

skittles · Post by **skittles** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:15 am

oh ok. thanks... but wait, (sorry for the lack of discussion here) why did it get rid of the original cyrodiil map in the first place? was it becuase stirk was too large for the map to adjust to all at one time?

Post by **Haplo** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:18 am

The new map replaces the old map because we like for our players to be able to view themselves on the minimap. Don't worry, Cyrodiil is still there. We've just added on to it. So the map is bigger. It's like the original plus my Stirk and Noir's Hammerfell.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:41 am

skittles wrote:oh ok. thanks... but wait, (sorry for the lack of discussion here) why did it get rid of the original cyrodiil map in the first place? was it becuase stirk was too large for the map to adjust to all at one time?

Stirk was originally pointed to a different map than the one it is now. That map is no longer in OoT.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:33 pm

The world map is there, Stirk is there. That's been fixed. But the world map seems blurry and low-res.

skittles · Post by **skittles** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:56 pm

so uh how do you replace the maps? do you do it outside of the game and whatnot or is it a map that you buy from a merchant? (sorry, i REALLY wouldnt know

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:24 pm

You reinstall the mod using the latest version.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:30 pm

By the way, given how Oblivion is painful with file names, maybe the Stirk beta shouldn't have their version number as part of their name. But just be "Stirk.esp". Because OoT has the Stirk voices in a Stirk subdirectory...
Right now it's TR_OoT_Main.rar\Data\Sound\Voice\Stirk v085.esp, so it won't work with Stirk v086.esp.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:45 pm

It didn't work with 0.85 either.

I suppose it might be better for the releases, but I know that I need to be able to have a couple files to revert back to if it blows up.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:16 am

1:
The statue outside the fort still lags me down.

2:
Cell: Fort Stirk Entrance Hall
Location: office on left wing from entrance
Error: Books named "strik tax record"

3:
Cell: Fort Stirk Passage
Location: Near exit to Fort Stirk Entrance Hall
Error: Check pathgrids, a guard is walking into the walls all the time.

Mr. Tissue Box · Post by **Mr. Tissue Box** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:46 am

So is anyone going to fix the lo res world map?

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:47 pm

if there realy is a problem with it, yes (i dont realy see any lowres-nes)

it aint gona be me though, i cant even open the damed file for some reason.

Noirgrim · Post by **Noirgrim** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:19 pm

Mr. Tissue Box wrote:So is anyone going to fix the lo res world map?

A screenshot, and version number of the file you are using would be most helpful.

skittles · Post by **skittles** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:16 pm

i downloaded the latest version the day i posted my first post here.

Noirgrim · Post by **Noirgrim** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:26 pm

skittles wrote:i downloaded the latest version the day i posted my first post here.

Noirgrim wrote: A screenshot, and version number of the file you are using would be most helpful.

Also, please state what your 'Texture Quality' is set at in the 'Video Options.'

Morgoth Bauglir · Post by **Morgoth Bauglir** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:56 am

Error 1: rock behind stirk manor looks really ugly

Error 2: icon for quest missing (I can't find julia anywhere, but that could be because of error 3)

Error 3: the poeple get invisible when they get outside. As soon as I talk to them they get visible again. Don't have screens of this though. I've experience this with the poeple from the Stirk Manor only. I didn't searched for the others (very demoralising to search for invisible poeple

)

Error 4: the guy on the boat says tthanks, should be thanks, right?

Xui'al · Post by **Xui'al** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:48 pm

See file comments. Darn it, I forgot a picture of Kynarius manor, as the top door either needs to be moved or removed.

Cheesedelux · Post by **Cheesedelux** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:31 pm

1. (More of a suggestion I suppose)
Cell: Eh, The Dock
Location: Underneath 'The Magnificent'
Error: The rudder stuck in the sand has been reported, but the depth of the water is FAR to shallow for such a big ship, and it's floating too far up, the water should just cover the hull, more realistic if it was further out
2. Cell: Anvil Docks
Location: 'The Magnificent'
Error: The side of the ship is slightly overlapping the jetty where you walk on
3. (Sort of) Cell: Lighthouse
Location: The top of the lighthouse
Error: The light dosn't have the script of the Anvil one, and cannot be player lit.

Oh and just a little thing: Surely the Admiral's statue would be facing towards the main path, rather than with it's back to it.

Cheesedelux · Post by **Cheesedelux** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:32 pm

Whoops, I forgot to mention that the NPCs don't seem to have the silent sound files to make their words readable.

milkshake · Post by **milkshake** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:09 am

cell: when fast travelling or entering houses in Anvil
Location: most places
error: a message pops up: turn back/go back(something like that) and i get sent back...even when entering houses on the harbour and fast travelling....

Im using borderless cyrodill
and
psychic guards harder

the message disappeared when i unchecked stirk from the mod list...

Andres Indoril · Post by **Andres Indoril** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:04 pm

Loading Borderless Cyrodiil after Stirk might help.
But Borderless Cyrodiil and Stirk are not compatible.

milkshake · Post by **milkshake** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:05 pm

but it happens with all other mods unchecked to :S

morke · Post by **morke** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:13 pm

im not sure if ths got flagged yet but i noticed that alot of the clutter in the manors have bad reactions to havok. when i activate an item on tabels and bookcases i get showered with clutter.

i also got stuck underneath the docks when swimming around

my computer gets a massive lagspike when i look at the statue (from the town square) and its the only lag i experience in OB. this could be because i run everything at full graphics, but i haven't encountred any lag in OB until now.

theviking · Post by **theviking** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:55 pm

I cant reach Stirk in the new version 0.9! The world map doesnt show it anymore, the ship which used to offer transport to it has dissapeared. If you try to swim to it you get the message "You cannot go there, go back". And you cant use borderless cyrodill to reach it. I even tried downloading a new OOT but that hasnt helped as well.