'Tis Pity She's a Courtesan

Harke the Apostle · Post by **Harke the Apostle** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:57 am

Daggerfall was meant to have prostitution, Morrowind had its House of Earthly Delights. What will Hammerfell offer in the way of 'entertainment'?
As I understand it.The Courtesans Guild as a faction is out, so lets not discuss that here.

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:42 pm

wtf mate

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:51 pm

Sorry, but since when was 'prostitution' a TR staple, or a requirement for any mod?

Jale · Post by **Jale** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:55 pm

Prostitution is a staple of any society. Oldest profession besides 'hunter'.

I would imagine that the Dura Ungai have a nice racket going, and that it might be fun to either have that in the background, allow the player to pimp for a while, or just have you stamping out a rival freelance pimp.

Orix · Post by **Orix** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:20 pm

I thought there was a concubine market in Rihad, but we decided it would be fairly civilised Geisha type stuff.

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:55 pm

Well, we obviously shouldn't put anything interactive of this nature into the mod, but I also agree with what Jale (Welcome back, btw) and Orix said.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:57 pm

Harke the Apostle wrote:Daggerfall was meant to have prostitution, Morrowind had its House of Earthly Delights. What will Hammerfell offer in the way of 'entertainment'?

Let's have nudey bars in port cities. Or at least one in one of them - Gilane sounds good.

Jale wrote:Prostitution is a staple of any society. Oldest profession besides 'hunter'.

What about midwivery?

I would imagine that the Dura Ungai have a nice racket going, and that it might be fun to either have that in the background, allow the player to pimp for a while, or just have you stamping out a rival freelance pimp.

Lame IMO. That would just make them a generic criminal organisation. As I see it, we have to ways to go with it. One is to attach it to a criminal organisation; the second is to make it a legitimate and respected (enough) profession.

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:00 pm

I'd like for it to be a known yet accepted/tolerated thing, yet not so public that it totally dominates a guild questline or something. I'd prefer it be one of those things you can't find unless you go looking for it. (You know... don't trouble trouble until trouble troubles you)

And yeah, it should be at least somewhat sophisticated.

Jale · Post by **Jale** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:46 pm

I would think that an honourable mafia-type group of Redguards would be against prostitution, and so an early quest where you have to go and beat up and intimidate a pimp would be good. 'Keep our city clean for good crimes.'

And nah midwivery came later after people got worried about infant mortality.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:38 pm

1. Prostitution is a perfectly respectable profession in traditional raga society.

2. The Dura Ungai is not honerable.

3. Concubines.

Jale · Post by **Jale** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:53 pm

Sload wrote:1. Prostitution is a perfectly respectable profession in traditional raga society.

2. The Dura Ungai is not honerable.

3. Concubines.

Fair enough.

My point about pimpslapping stands though.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:31 pm

i dont see pimping as a whole quest line, but something like a single quest about a evil pimp and a poor, inocent ho' would be cool.

and yes, i think the concubines are going to be one of the main sourses of the expicit sex factor in hammerfell. more implicitly, all of hammerfell is much more sexed up then cyrodiil. the warmer weather alows for skimpier clothing, and apperal of all kinds is much more focused on the looks then it was in cyrodiil (and morrowind)

Jale · Post by **Jale** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:13 pm

Lady Nerevar wrote:i dont see pimping as a whole quest line, but something like a single quest about a evil pimp and a poor, inocent ho' would be cool.

My opinion exactly.

Also a few Imperial NPCs complaining about this 'Godless' behaviour would be appropriate.

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:26 pm

I'd be more in favor of it not even being part of any quest line. Although I can think of some funny dialogue... Anyway IMO it should be more of a background thing. It should be known about and accepted, albeit grudgingly in some circles. Maybe include a little background story like an Imperial priest preaching about the sins of the flesh or something like that. It adds character to the city but I dont think it should really be interacted with.

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:52 am

I can already see the first quest about this; "Retrieve my panties" or something along those lines.

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:11 pm

I retract my former statement because I had the best quest idea.

Ok, so a courtesan was called on to entertain a wealthy married man. The man doesn't want his wife to find out what he was up to so he recruits you to get rid of some incriminating evidence (i.e. undergarmets).

...

Actually no, I stick by what I said earlier.

Lord Paladas · Post by **Lord Paladas** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:44 am

Why not leave it as an 'accepted' thing (like what Haplo said) and leave it to some group of nose-poking priests (like the Forgottens Daedric quest where you extinguish the torches so the idiot group of would-be converters get mugged while screaming "Akatosh save me!" and the Big Man Above does nothing) spending a majority of their day standing outside this 'tolerated' services building, preaching blah-blah-blah, and the harrassed pimp (not a real 'bad' person, more like Snoop Dogg than anything) wants you to help him out, hmm? Or maybe make this group of priests in other towns as well, while making up for an attempt at a wide-spread extinction of this 'sin'.

By all means, make this 'service' (non-interactive) spread in more than one place throughout Hammerfell. By all means, make an evil S.O.B. pimp you need to 'straighten out'. And BY ALL MEANS, make more than just a few little iotas of side quests and make it more of a 'help this unjoinable faction out' thing than a simple 'im only one poor guy in this situation' thing? i doesnt need to be a quest line, just a few scattered 'help me!' quests (2-5 in entire province).

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:48 pm

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