Duke Nathan`s Showcase

Duke Nathan · Post by **Duke Nathan** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:25 pm

Hello, I must admit that I got here accidentally, but few minutes ago I noticed the Showcase forum, so I`d like to show You some of my forgotten projects for Morrowind, which I made long time ago, when I had no idea about scripting ;]

As for the Showcase rules, I`m not sure if everyone here need to put also some esp.`s files links, so for now there`ll be only technical screens.

First one, I call it just a "Hotel"
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[url=http://img415.imageshack.us/my.php?image=51bm.jpg][img]http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/9488/51bm.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=69ej.jpg][img]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9182/69ej.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img415.imageshack.us/my.php?image=76rt.jpg][img]http://img415.imageshack.us/img415/4305/76rt.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Next one is "Ashhold Colony"
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[url=http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=128yx.jpg][img]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/875/128yx.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=136mg.jpg][img]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8793/136mg.th.jpg[/img][/url]

"Darkhold"
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[url=http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=166hs.jpg][img]http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7111/166hs.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=173jo.jpg][img]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1751/173jo.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=182pa.jpg][img]http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7197/182pa.th.jpg[/img][/url]

"The Prison"
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[url=http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=35ri.jpg][img]http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9344/35ri.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=33tu.jpg][img]http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3593/33tu.th.jpg[/img][/url]

And finally, the city I call "Hlaalu Venice"
It`s my final project for Morrowind and I`m working on it at present.
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[url=http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=31ex.jpg][img]http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3382/31ex.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=44ba1.jpg][img]http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8642/44ba1.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Any suggestions welcome ;]

Post by **Haplo** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:45 pm

My favorites are the Hlaalu Venice (reminds me of Narsis

), and the prison. Good job on everything, though!

PoHa! · Post by **PoHa!** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:53 pm

Nice... looks like you like to do exteriors, and BIG interiors, no?

I wonder though. I didn't see a lot of clutter/furniture/stuff in the pics, which could be from my not looking at every one, bad camera angles, or bad distance when the shot was taken.

In any event, a .esp would be best, such that it can be looked at in detail and the like. Pics can only give a glimpse of a person's talent.

Oh, and welcome to the forums, Duke Nathan!

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 11:57 pm

Welcome!

An *.esp would be nice, but the screens look very nice.

Duke Nathan · Post by **Duke Nathan** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:29 pm

PoHa! wrote: I wonder though. I didn't see a lot of clutter/furniture/stuff in the pics, which could be from my not looking at every one, bad camera angles, or bad distance when the shot was taken.

I know, these shots aren`t very good. I`ll try to find these old files and clean them up, so You could take a peek on this. As to interiors, here are some cells (mostly from Darkhold):
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[url=http://img276.imageshack.us/my.php?image=77sy.jpg][img]http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/7011/77sy.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=81dy.jpg][img]http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6038/81dy.th.jpg[/img][/url]
[url=http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=99ky.jpg][img]http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1684/99ky.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img276.imageshack.us/my.php?image=109tw.jpg][img]http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/323/109tw.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img276.imageshack.us/my.php?image=118sh.jpg][img]http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/8942/118sh.th.jpg[/img][/url]

And two other project, "Enclave" and "Windharbor" :
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[url=http://img276.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36sj1.jpg][img]http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/234/36sj1.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=42sj1.jpg][img]http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4223/42sj1.th.jpg[/img][/url]

And as a sample, one of my published house-mods, Swamp Tower (Polish version):
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Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:58 pm

You sir have a very unique style. Not that that's a bad thing. I'll let PoHa be the judge of that.

Duke Nathan · Post by **Duke Nathan** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:17 pm

I`d rather say that I`ve got a problem with excessive symmetry. I just can`t stand any architectural mess, that`s why my projects look a bit unrealistic and predictable...

I`m trying to change it in "Venice", in spite of the city shape design. We`ll see ;]

PoHa! · Post by **PoHa!** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:36 pm

I'd agree with you on the symmetry, after looking at your mod in the CS real quick like. Many objects are duplicated and placed in rows, which gets pretty tiring on the eye.

Also, I can't fathom all that you have in the interiors fitting in the exterior. Unless a great many rooms were underground (I didn't check everything, like room linking and whatnot).

I did however notice an attention to detail and an inventive mind behind the work.

So, my advice is to [url=http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=15420]click here[/url], and pick something from that list, and make it, to show us where you now stand in your creativity, and thus give us something at least slightly smaller to look over, and give feedback. With the .esp you posted, I wouldn't know where to begin (which is both a good and a bad thing)

Edit:

Ah, and as a note to Nanu, as well as other modders: You have moddership. Your opinion counts. There's a reason you were promoted, and that reason is because you knew what you were doing, and were willing to do it. So please, don't feel like teh l33t Showcase Moderator is the only one who can give his opinion/advice.

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:17 pm

PoHa! wrote: Ah, and as a note to Nanu, as well as other modders: You have moddership. Your opinion counts. There's a reason you were promoted, and that reason is because you knew what you were doing, and were willing to do it. So please, don't feel like teh l33t Showcase Moderator is the only one who can give his opinion/advice.

I had a six paragraph review typed out, but it didn't sound right.

Duke Nathan · Post by **Duke Nathan** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:03 am

PoHa! wrote:Many objects are duplicated and placed in rows, which gets pretty tiring on the eye.

Yes, but it`s kind of a strict convention of some idealized, practical base for the player, however this may look unreal.

Also, I can't fathom all that you have in the interiors fitting in the exterior.

I usually copy exterior buidling into the interior cell and match up all the sizes, so they should be more or less equal (except for the undergrounds, but it depends on the project)...

Anyway, as far as I understand, You prefer more chaotic and dynamic setups ?

OK, that`s fine with me.

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:32 am

Anyway, as far as I understand, You prefer more chaotic and dynamic setups ?

I like it that way.

ENIGMA* · Post by ENIGMA* » Mon May 01, 2006 2:54 am

Duke Nathan wrote:Anyway, as far as I understand, You prefer more chaotic and dynamic setups ?

Chaotic and Dynamic setups make a video game unique, take the Nine Divines and their counterparts, the Daedric Princes... one system is order and the other is Chaos, how else would you have the only dragon in Oblivion be a taskmaster... Chaos.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:01 am

I don't think chaotic is what we want as much as realistic. Having a copy+pasted version of things in different rooms just isn't realistic, because people don't do that. Each desk will have different things because the person who sits there will be doing different things. Each bedroom is different because each person will put different things in it. And so forth.

ENIGMA* · Post by ENIGMA* » Mon May 01, 2006 3:16 am

as far as i saw Oblivion was cookie cuttered alot....

especialy the special Easter Egg Stuch Quest

that Oblivion Realm was the same as another one.....

Duke Nathan · Post by **Duke Nathan** » Mon May 01, 2006 12:07 pm

Sload wrote:Each desk will have different things because the person who sits there will be doing different things. Each bedroom is different because each person will put different things in it. And so forth.

It`s obvious - all I`m trying to say is that there`s no problem with making some symmetrical base, and then changing it without any grid snap, using only some misc and static objects, so it looked more realistic.
Copy-paste is very useful though, at least in case of huge and monumental projects design ;]

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon May 01, 2006 12:46 pm

Its useful but I think its lazy. Seeing the same books arranged in the same way in two different houses is just wrong. Ive played oblivion for about 5 hours in total, at a friends house. In one of the houses I went in, there was a bookcase with various items on it, and a big pot which was lodged through a shelf (maaaaajor bleeding). I was pretty disgusted by that. I walked round the corner in the house....and there was the exact same shelf with the same pot lodged through it in the same place.

ENIGMA* · Post by ENIGMA* » Mon May 01, 2006 1:18 pm

Jale you missed what he said.

copy and paste, because it's a huge project, then go in and change suff around to give each room or cell or grand hall a unique feel.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:22 pm

Yes everyone dreams of making epic mods. That's why we're here isnt it? You definately can do it. Those shots are quite impressive.

However, I do hope you take Poha's advice and try one of the small interiors. That way, your work can bwe throroughly critiqued. Also, that's what TR is all about, everyone taking a small peice of the pie and doing it very well- then we put 'em all together.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:23 pm

ENIGMA* wrote:Jale you missed what he said.

copy and paste, because it's a huge project, then go in and change suff around to give each room or cell or grand hall a unique feel.

It still doesn't quite gel if every desk has exactly the same items on it. Its fine for moving your essential blueprint, but oddities should be added too, like flowers in vases.

ENIGMA* · Post by ENIGMA* » Mon May 01, 2006 1:36 pm

that wasen't the point of what i was saying...

By "changing stuff" I meant taking this one item out and putting these other items in.....

basicly what you were saying at the end.....

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:40 pm

I would suggest that you do one of the recommended mods that we have in a sticky at the top of Showcase. PoHa! provided a link, I believe.

Duke Nathan · Post by **Duke Nathan** » Thu May 04, 2006 12:12 am

Fine, I`ll prepare some cheap imperial tavern this weekend ;]

Duke Nathan · Post by **Duke Nathan** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:38 pm

Hello again

Unfortunately, I had some PC hardware problems, that`s why my test project will be delayed

Duke Nathan · Post by **Duke Nathan** » Thu May 10, 2007 1:23 am

Hi there

It`s been a while ;]
My Showcase Tavern was never built due to my polish community admin duties and permanent lack of time, though I haven`t given up my private modding...

Currently I`m learning about Oblivion scripting, but there`s something else I`d like to show You - I know it`s not the best place for non-recruitment purposes, but I think it fits with the rest of my former work.

It`s the very last thing I made for TES III - the project is a kind of memorial to Vivec, his books, and nine people (including me) who were translating 36 sermons with all their hidden meanings and messages to polish language, within whole two years.

The idea was insane and so is the scenery ;]

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[url=http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=98278743db1.jpg][img]http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6670/98278743db1.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=82307717zo4.jpg][img]http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8594/82307717zo4.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=32132053wm5.jpg][img]http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8792/32132053wm5.th.jpg[/img][/url][url=http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=95632503ge7.jpg][img]http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2375/95632503ge7.th.jpg[/img][/url]

The main thing is [url=http://rapidshare.com/files/20600559/Foul_Murderer.rar.html]The Movie[/url] [almost 6 minutes] - ingame show about the whole lore-related sermon story.

Of course there`s also quest-mod itself, but for now it`s based on the polish version of sermons ;]

In the meantime, if somebody`s curious - enjoy !

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:35 am

Those screens are... unique, to say the least. I really like your style.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:24 am

Wow- that is stunning! You, sir, are good.

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Thu May 10, 2007 7:06 am

I'm very happy to see you once again here Duke! I'm sure your promotion will be only a matter of time. You know I'm not an exterior/interior specialist, that's why all I can say about your work is... I feel bad that I haven't still found the time to play that mod. What are your plans for TR? Morrowind or Oblivion?

Powodzenia Duke!

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Thu May 10, 2007 1:05 pm

The screens are a bit weird but nice. It reminds a little bit of final fnatasy in some way.
I thnik that you could be good for some special projects here.

angelus6 · Post by **angelus6** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:10 pm

yes... but i want to playtest it!!!

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Thu May 10, 2007 3:42 pm

This mod was made on the Polish Morrowind, because of that I don't know how it will interact with the original MW... I never played it... I could give the link, but I want to be fair with Duke, so lets just wait

But I'm already downloading it for myself. Oh, and it's 23MB...

Duke Nathan · Post by **Duke Nathan** » Thu May 10, 2007 7:23 pm

aro101 - currently I`m busy with my own modding related site, but in the near future I`ll probably try to make some stuff for TES IV - for now I don`t even have required skills for some serious Oblivion modding with TR.
Wait... Why am I writing in english to You ? ;]

angelus6 wrote:but i want to playtest it!!!

Hmm, are You absolutely sure ?
This place can change your life forever

Alright, here`s [url=http://www.elderscrolls.com.pl/site/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=44&Itemid=32]Foul Murderer - The Plugin [installer with esp + Data files][/url] [about 20 MB], but as aro101 said it`s a polish version, so there could be some difficulties with scripts and dialogues - besides there are polish letters in cell names, so the "coc" command won`t work.

So first of all, here`s the map:
[url=http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fmns4.jpg][img]http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/483/fmns4.th.jpg[/img][/url]
The red dot marks the entrance to a cave - it`s the fastest way to get there, but before the main realm entry there are few scripts inside the cave and I don't have the slightest idea how will they act in the original MW, so good luck ;]

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Thu May 10, 2007 8:03 pm

Actually, someone made me today aware of the existence of your site, and about some other things too... And I feel like we got to have a talk about that. A nice talk. Now I almost know what did you mean, when you told me to stay sharp!

Jak już po angielsku, to po angielsku

Now, I'll try take a look at this mod!

Duke Nathan · Post by **Duke Nathan** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:22 pm

Hello again

Finally, my [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9ps6ZIt-QQ&v2]Foul Murderer Memorial[/url] movie appeared on YouTube ;]

It`s just for fun - Enjoy !

PS. Sorry for UTube-quality ;]

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:02 pm

As soon as Aro can comment on the mod he playtested, we can move forward. I'll try and get him over here.

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:03 am

If you don't mind Haplo, I will give you asap some details via PM

This time, I would prefer that way of giving information. I have also some other stuff to talk about, but it's nothing scary at all ^^

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:00 am

PM away

Post by **Haplo** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:59 pm

Member Promoted for general TES work, with the understanding that you may not be able to work with TR 100% of the time.

Duke Nathan · Post by **Duke Nathan** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:40 am

Big Thanks ! I`ll try to be useful ;]

And by the way, here`s my latest [url=http://www.elderscrolls.com.pl/site/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=94&catid=6&PageNo=1]WIP Oblivion Project[/url] with some simple retextures.

Basically, it`s just another incarnation of Swamp Tower, which I uploaded last year ;]