Map 3 Download (Almalexia/Old Ebonheart)

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:12 am

Map 3

Includes: Alpha Version - Exteriors & Interiors
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Data Files for Map 3
TR_Data.esm & TR_Data.bsa are required for Map 3 to run properly. They can be found on our Downloads page or in the Objects of Tamriel Browser. They can also be found in any released Gamefiles we have linked on our Downloads page.

Newest ESP as of December 19th: v.76

Download Here or Below:
[url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/files/TR_Map3v.76.7z]Map 3[/url]

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:14 am

Things that still need to be done:

-Detailing

-Finish fixing OE

-Finish linking all Map 3 interiors

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:15 am

Haplo wrote:Things that still need to be done:
[...]
Add claim 3-38

Never fear... this particular detail shall soon be remedied!

May even get it done sometime tomorrow depending.

Theo · Post by **Theo** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:03 pm

More:
- Merge my 3-3 claim (Dexter approved this while ago but in the current version it is missing).
- Beside OE - raise the terrain at 12,-31 (what happened here is a mystery)
- Texturing Mournhold area and placing some statics just because of map and view from distance.
- Hopefully add one new imperial settlement of mine

- Open new map 3 interiors.

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:31 am

Aye, I've merged your 3-3 claim, and most of that on your list will be covered under map 3 detailing claims.

I'm also looking into the thing you mentioned about cell 12,-31

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:00 am

A new new version already? And I had just finished cleaning my copy of v063 from dirty changes, obsolete refs, and unwanted cell names!

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:59 pm

and im still playing .55!

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:55 pm

Yes, Gez. There will be new updates every so often as I find time to clean different parts of the map and update/fix/detail different parts, as well as upload them here for your general enjoyment.

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:58 am

Updated! All of Map 3 exteriors are now included!!! Although there are still many seams to be fixed (mostly along the Ebon River area) and cell-crossings to smooth out and stuff.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:32 am

Update - Seams fixed. Going over all the claim borders now one by one to fix all seams.

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:52 pm

Hey Haplo, did you manage to nail that Almalexia CTD error in the end?

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:09 pm

It's still here in the last version I downloaded.

I've tried to understand what was causing it. I've once deleted all the references in the silt strider port cell. Then in the eight cells around it. Still a CTD.

Then I also deleted the pathgrids and landscape declarations for these nine cells. No longer a CTD.

Then I added back the references. CTD.

Without the references, I added back the name for the cells. CTD.

Doing something from scratch (just putting a rock in each cell), no CTD.

Raising a bit of land in each cell next, CTD.

Aaauuugh!

I don't have a clue what's the problem exactly with these cells. I hope it's not an arbitrary bug, the Cell (3, 3) bug Oblivion suffers from.

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:41 pm

I think it may have something to do with the sudden increase in height, and the amount it increases. I've reduced it a bit more in each version since .73, but I have yet to test it. I've also removed some of the way too many references in the 'Almalexia Silt Strider Port' cell.

I'll post a newer version with 100% of the seams fixed (I think) and about 150% more vertex shading (I swear, I've had to vertex shade that entire map!) sometime in the next few days when I can grab some time.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:34 pm

Updated. I've re-added the missing cells at the northwestern end of the map Ludovic mentioned. Check it out... Also, please try the Almalexia cell again to see if it still CTDs please! (Please try it coming from all four cells adjacent to it!)

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:53 pm

Victory! No CTD.

As proved by [url=http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1049/screenshot46tp6.png]this picture[/url]. (For the fun, alternate with [url=http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/2365/screenshot47fe5.png]that one[/url] and you'll get an idea of why I hate Intel chipsets.)

If you're interested, I've a slightly updated version where the bogus statics (dirty statics from the OoT_Old/EoT era) have been fixed.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:58 am

One giant step closer to having a playable Map 3. Nice work

CleverClothe · Post by **CleverClothe** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:25 am

I'm getting CTDs when getting close to the stiltstrider port. But the rest of the city seems safe now.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:14 am

I dont' think Gez's fixed version has been uploaded yet... so that last CTD should be gone.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:27 am

I had no CTD in Haplo's version. (And using the CS to search & replace obsolete references by new references didn't add them back, either.)

Version 0.09 is CTD-free as far as I'm concerned.

I could upload "my" version, but I doubt it'd change anything for those who still experience CTDs in Almalexia, because none of my few changes affected that city.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:26 pm

I never got any CTD to begin with (except those caused by not having a complete version of Tribunal...)

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:53 am

I'm pretty sure it has to do with computer specs at this point... Gez, could you post yours, and CleverClothe, yours, please? At versions previous to v0.09, mine CTD'd in that cell. I'm running an AMD Sempron 2600+, an integrated GeForce 6100, and have 1GB (997 MB) of RAM.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:56 am

Compy specs?

[url=http://www.itp.net/reviews/details.php?id=2658]Here[/url].

WinXP SP2, Pentium centrino, graphic card slightly above a good ol' Hercules CGA one (but not by much), 1 gig ram.

CleverClothe · Post by **CleverClothe** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:43 am

Sure thing. I am running XP Pro with:

Intel Pentium 4 2.53GHz
1GB RAM
NVIDIA Geforce 6800 GS (AGP) (Driver version is 93.71)
Using DirectX 9.0c

I don't have any mods but TR installed.

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:37 pm

I very much doubt that it has anything to do with specs. it ws crashing only quite rarely for me, and I run a 16MB Mobility Radeon video card on an old laptop. (1.6GHZ Pentium M processor and 512MB RAM)
Haplo has a computer that plays OB, and he seemed to be getting more crashing than me. is everybody using Gez's version now?

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:12 pm

Parts of fort Wavemoth are really floating. I don't know what is going to happen with that.

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:57 pm

That's part of a merging problem from a long time ago that's still undergoing fixing.

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:53 pm

Hey! I can't understand why the map3 esp makes my firewatch library look like this:
[url=http://img479.imageshack.us/my.php?image=83051903qb8.jpg][img]http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/9770/83051903qb8.th.jpg[/img][/url]
I know, it looks like the models are missing. But they aren't and it is like this when I turn on the map3 esp.

Post by **Swiftoak** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:35 pm

The Map3.esp probably has some corrupt dependencies, or duplicated references, it should get fixed soon, I had the same problem.

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:29 am

I figure I've kept you all waiting long enough

This update includes a large portion of the interiors of Almalexia finally linked to the exteriors (this means you can go in and out of the buildings

)

The majority of the interiors linked are on the eastern half of Almalexia, although the Western Gate cell is complete.

Three places I strongly encourage you all to visit:

1st) The Cathedral of Almalexia, by Ludovic. This thing is pure sex. Really. One look at that and you will know what you are modding for. You will know why anyone mods. It is for that

It is also known as i3-59-Ind, and is located up the ramp in the cell below Western gate. As soon as you go up the ramp, turn right, and then turn right again and it's the one with the big imposing gates for doors. F3 if you're that familiar with it.

2nd) The Morag Tong Morrowind HQ. This complex can be found in the southwestern corner of the cell south of the eastern entrance to Almalexia and is also really cool. After all, it's the Morag Tong

3rd) Taythionis Castle. This thing is the really tall big tower right in front of you (not literally) as you enter the capital from the east. Check it out. At about 8 or 9 stories, it's sure to keep you occupied for a while.

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I'm still working on linking all the interiors, and please do NOT post error reports or comments about errors here, they will only be archived! Save any errors you find to a notepad document or a word document for when map 3 error reporting opens up. (That should not be long in coming

)

Enjoy,

Haplo

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:32 pm

just when i thought i had finished screenshoting map3.... oh well, it will be nice to see some interiors in the galery

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:54 pm

Old Ebonheart is supposed to still be in a pretty rough shape, right? Or could it be a problem at my end (stuff's floating all over the place)?

Also, is the cell (0, 0) supposed to have been modified?

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:34 pm

yeah, OE is still really rough, no worries about that

And my CS (I assume it's normal) always edits Ashlands (0,0) for some reason, no matter what mod. Even interiors I think. It's easy to clean though, it doesn't actually edit anything or add anything, it just marks the cell as edited so I delete the reference in TESAME and it's good.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:45 pm

Yeah, (0, 0)'s name has actually been changed to "xAshlands Region". That's the problem.

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:30 am

Aye, I put a lowercase x in front of every cell I need to clean out so I don't miss any, or clean out a cell that I might need. Only the 'x' cells get cut. Don't worry, it's there on purpose

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:29 am

Okay, I've had a look around, and I have three words:

Pure. Unadulterated. Win.

This place is absolutely amazing. Almalexia is the best large city I've ever seen, and truly does justice to it. (Though how are we going to stop people levitating over the walls into the mudball of nothing that is Mournhold?)

Secondly, I have to give absolute kudos to the masterpiece that is "the unnamed Indoril city" (no ints, or name on the map), which is the one which is built into cliffs and tunnels, and has the awesome out of use hot spring baths nearby.

Finally, the snowy mountain with St. Delyn's shrine on top, is beautiful and genius. Frankly, it needs a pilgramage.

xeth-ban · Post by **xeth-ban** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:53 am

Where exactly is this shrine you speak of? i would really like to visit it

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:01 am

I don't know the cell exactly (it doesn't 'show up' on the map), but use the info button in the CS to find all the references of St. Delyn's statue. One of them will be in a "Map3" cell. That's your man.

EDIT: It's (34, -31)

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:38 pm

Almalexia has turned out really well.

But I have the sneaking suspicion that Map 3 detailing around there would involve removing refs. Also, that fucking Silt Strider port or Western Gate gives me a CTD. Also, what happened to Old Ebonheart?

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:19 pm

The CTD in the Almalexia cell is still under work. It's because of the sudden increase in height and the amount of increase that causes it, I'm almost sure. Why? Because before any lowering, it gave everyone a CTD, and after I lowered it by about 5%, it gave only some people CTDs.

Also, OE wasn't clean when it was merged and the cells from hell had come back, so I quick did what I could to fix the glaring part, but there's still a lot to be done. OE will be the last thing I do on Map 3 before I open it up for others to work on.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:29 am

It's good to know that the CTD isn't because my comp specifically is crappy. But geez there has been a lot of good modding here at TR