Dune Dweller alt. Blades

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:50 am

[url]http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/9545/dunedwellerweapons7sx.jpg[/url]

i started on the dune dweller blades so far if done some the blade for the first one heres a pic

[url]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/dunedweller1blade1.jpg[/url]

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:08 pm

Its hard to give feedback... cause there really isn't anything done yet.

I'm eager to see how they turn out though.

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:24 pm

sorry about the delay i haven't had much time to work on it over the past 4 days
[img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/dunedweller1ish.png[/img]
its still really no were near finished tho

Orix · Post by **Orix** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:51 pm

Cool

Eyeball should be able to help you out with the textures, considering he did the dune dweller dagger (which is in the same style).

Keep up the good work!

Joco · Post by **Joco** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:08 pm

Hey! That Looks Good. How about making something between the blade and the handle? Looks like a really good mesh. Do you know how many triangles (polygons) it consists of?

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:13 pm

The blade is 594 polys and im gonna totally remake the handle anyway cus the current mesh for it is only there as a guide for the shape

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:57 pm

Yeah, the blade looks really interesting

Good idea. But you definitely have to remodell the handle, it's a to simple shape. Maybe you should try to model a hand-fitting shape. Oh, and maybe change tha blade face smoothing.
Keep it up!

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:16 pm

iv redone the handle
[img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/dunedweller2ish.png[/img]
(390polys)
(984total)

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:59 pm

That's a lot better

Ok. Now, are you able to put some textures on this model? I would like to see how this mesh works with textures. It's the next thing, that should be done with this model. Then, after placing textures, we can decide what do to with the blade

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:18 pm

uv mapped (ish) [img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/dunedweller3ish.png[/img]
the textures i used are just random 1ns i stuck on it so i had an idea of were it was all goin
[img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/dunedwellerblade1tex.png[/img]

Fairwater · Post by **Fairwater** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:45 pm

Looking good.....try to make it similar to this one right here!

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6972/dunedwellerweaponsdaggefa1.jpg

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:25 pm

Nice progress. My suggestions;

1) Give the blade texture some scratches. If it's going to look worn out and used, the rough surface isn't convincing on its own.

2) The handle and blade seem like they'll un-stick once someone picks up the sword. Sink the blade deeper into the handle and add something like two spikes in the texture.

3) The part of the handle that is clutched by the wielder's hand should be a bit messed up -that area would be the middle of the handle (my mind's stuck, what's the right word for that part of the weapon?). Darken that area in a random way to show it's been held more than once.

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:42 pm

Hey, nice looking model so far. For kicks, I had a go on the texture. I tried to make it look more similar to Eyeball's there. Anyway, try it out if you want.

[img]http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1619/bladetex1or6.jpg[/img]

Nalin · Post by **Nalin** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:33 pm

Very nice textures Morgoth

I'd like the handle to be a little more sturdy looking though - perhaps a little bulkier

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:08 pm

I'm still worried that this is going to look totaly wierd when it's wielded because the blade is bent like that- unless it's one handed and the character hold it on the straigt part.

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:21 pm

Alik'r nomads aren't all that much for immense or advanced weapons as you find in modern civilizations, so it'll never be large enough to fit two spaced hands

CleverClothe · Post by **CleverClothe** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:43 pm

That blade looks longer and thinner (from the side) than the concept. And the bulge of wrapping at the base of the blade could be bigger. Looking great so far, other than that.

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:08 am

Also, personally I think the little cuts you made in the handle and lower blade are far too small to be noticed. It might be better to just make those solid and leave cracks and whatnot to the texture and map work.

Orix · Post by **Orix** » Fri May 18, 2007 8:59 pm

Pretty cool if you get 'em looking like Eyeball's models.

Any progress?

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Fri May 18, 2007 11:06 pm

i haven't had as much progress as id have liked to have had iv been busy with collage for the past few weeks so i havnt had much time to get much done, i have jiggled the mesh around to get it to look more... right and iv started retex'ing the handle so i can get more detail around parts of it to make it look more worn, so not really a lot sorry

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:33 pm

im back my course has just finished (more or less) and im also gf-less as well so i have a lot of time on my hands now. and is it just me or does it seem very quiet around here now

[edit]
on a side note i might not be of much use till iv sorted the harddrive situation (less than 5mb left)

but im here none the less

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:19 am

Glad to have you back, I will re-add you to the usergroups now-- most of the progress being done is in the new claims browser section for models and textures, right below where interiors are listed.

The reason things look a bit bare here is because we're in the middle of trying to empty out the two general modeling/texturing sections and hope to eventually archive them completely. This will allow models and textures to be run the exact same way as exteriors and interiors have been run for years, and the way quests are being run since just recently.

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:00 pm

so where should i post updates on the blade then?

here or in claims bit

[edit]
meh there goin here for the time being
[img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/bladew00t.png[/img]
ignore the handle im not done with that bit yet

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:58 pm

[img]http://s106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/bladew00t2.png[/img] [img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/bladew00t3.png[/img]

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:36 pm

Wow... lookin' pretty sweet there.

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:38 pm

why thankyou

its still not quite finished tho

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:12 am

Indeed that does look pretty cool. It's shaping up

And yes, posting progress on the blade here is fine.

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:58 am

with lack of better words of use, it's just how I imagined it

Very awesome-sauce work, Balthazar

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:15 am

i like the way you mapped the texture with that hole, it makes it look much more defined.

i was also wondering if DuneDwellers used bludgeoning tools like cudgels and bone weapons.

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:51 pm

iv edited the shape a bit
[img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/moo.png[/img]
these are the new textures
[img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/texture1.jpg[/img][img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/texture2.jpg[/img]
i was also experimenting with havin bits of the blade poking through the handle tex
[img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/testicles.png[/img]
i think looks a bit crappy tho

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:40 pm

Somehow I'm still not in favor of the handle... I just don't like that shape. But the blade looks almost incredible for me

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:51 am

Who would've guessed that my 10-minute texture would actually be useful? Awesome looking so far.

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:02 pm

well it looks great and saves me a job

and i use a cheese texture overlay on the handle

some more screeny's for you
[img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/SHIIIINEYY.png[/img]
[img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/SHIIINEYY2.png[/img]
[img]http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m259/Balthazarse/SHIIINEYY3.png[/img]

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:15 pm

Nice work

Have you tried exporting it to .nif format?

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:33 pm

i work on them in .nif format, i find it easier, i cant get the collision mesh to work though

Balthazar · Post by **Balthazar** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:20 pm

thought id upload it

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:08 am

thought id show you mine
[url=http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dunedwellerblade1of2.jpg][img]http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6407/dunedwellerblade1of2.th.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dunedwellerblade2ts2.jpg][img]http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/5751/dunedwellerblade2ts2.th.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dunedwellerblade3bq3.jpg][img]http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7075/dunedwellerblade3bq3.th.jpg[/img][/url]

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:21 am

That seems to be very high poly on some parts mister Fishcake...

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:29 am

yeah
what is the poly count for oblivion weapons of about this size?