Fishcakes showcase

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:22 am

hi just gonna show u some of my stuff ive made

this goblet took me about 5 minutes
http://www.box.net/shared/hz79glpajv
http://www.box.net/shared/zmt4dve55x

and this weapon took me a fair while coz i was just learning blender
http://www.box.net/shared/o7nbd3xckc
http://www.box.net/shared/z62jm0zdkj

just so you know i cannot texture

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:32 am

the weapon really caught my eye: its very unique. I suggest beefing up the haft a bit to make it more proportional.

Is it going to be a one-handed weapon or a polearm/spear weapon?

and don't worry about texturing right now, just keep working on the mesh and learning 'blender'. (correct me if i'm wrong TR) But I think a realistic polycount for a weapon in OBLIVION would be 3000-5000 polys (which is counted by triangles)

the goblet however looks to high-poly, and goblets, cups, plates, and such can be modeld in around 200-300 tris, since most of the detail is in the texture and mapping.

i really encourage you tokeep working on the weapon!

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:16 am

what is haft
that weapon is a spear/polearm also i dont have oblivion you can see in one of the pics its morrowind
and how can you count the poly's

also the weapon is a attempt at remaking the weapon zasalamel has in soul calliber 3

another weapon ive made is a throwing stick
http://www.box.net/shared/5d1d34k5zd

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:18 am

the throwing stick is the only thing ive ever been able to texture all the others didnt work

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:27 am

ok my mistake.

the haft is the part that you hold onto when you are holding/swinging the weapon.

I have never used blender, I use 3ds MAX8, so I dont know how to check polycounts in blender... if you save it as an .obj file or a .3ds file and send it to me, then I can import it into max and tell you how many polys it is, and since it is for MW then it needs to be much less polys than OBLIVION weapons (respectively).

and i never played SC3... is it better than SC2?

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:42 am

sc3 is better i think but for some reason its just not as fun as sc2 ya no what i mean

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:35 am

dont know if this helps but the face count for the whole lot is about 2000 havent figured how to count the polys yet
and i changed the goblet to have only 2000 faces instead of 6500 (as low as i could get it easily without looking too wonky)

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:39 am

Many modders here are working on blender, that is no problem, me myself I never found the patience to learn it, and it makes me feel bad... I was already planning to really start using it for far more than a year. I have it installed of course... Your meshes look very nice

If you're not making textures you can try to learn it, or leave that to other modders, that is also no problem. In addition, I can tell you that I started to mod for oblivion without having it installed, and by now you don't have to worry about that!

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:10 pm

anyone got anything in particular you want to challenge me to make like a helmet/weapon

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:40 pm

Maybe it's not in particular, but...
http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/files/yokudablades_129.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2914/random1pw0.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7131/moreeeeearmourhi3.jpg
You can give a try

choose whatever suits you

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:22 pm

this is what ive got so far
is this what that head thing is meant look like this
http://www.box.net/shared/thf5bhmt6b
http://www.box.net/shared/alic7v392l

or is it meant to be a band around the head
ill add detail if its right

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:41 am

ok im pretty happy with what ive done so im gonna show you the only thing i didn't do was the dangly bits on the bottom

this is what i chose to do
http://www.box.net/shared/khvqm7jlfy

this is what it turned out like
http://www.box.net/shared/xy383c3x2u
http://www.box.net/shared/9dnbuvqvpz
http://www.box.net/shared/rk9lkkrlvb
http://www.box.net/shared/6svqszjsbe

i just gave it a bit of material so you can see it better

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:19 am

A quite nice mesh Mr. Fishcake! Why don't try chamfering some edges? I would like that mesh to have more softened shape. Also, adding some more dimension to it could be nice too. On the concept it looks flat, but maybe in the game it shouldn't be so. But the first thing I mentioned is more important.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:27 am

i think i read some where you cant chamfer in blender

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:42 pm

When I said chamfering, I had in mind getting a more smoother shape, not using a specific option

Jelle · Post by **Jelle** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:06 pm

Fishcake wrote:i think i read some where you cant chamfer in blender

you CAN use "subsurf" but that has a very high-poly result so I wont reccomend it, just do it the "classic" way.
EDIT:
with classic I mean just rearange the vertices a bit in edit mode off course

Post by **Gnomey** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:09 pm

I think it's supposed to be a full hat, sort of shaped like a giant turban with a large furrow going through the top. Either way, it looks a bit strange with just the white band. I'd ask Lady N about the shape, as she's the one who drew it.

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:01 pm

Lady N can draw some of the hardest clotehs to mesh I have ever seen. Good luck Fishcake! and you can always leave the big primitive edges un-chamfered if its giving you too much trouble and have someone do it in 3dsMAX, (since its alot easier [i've heard], and you can get really acurate 2 and 4 tris chamfers really quickly)

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:39 am

sorry everyone ive been away for a few days
i thought that the hat thing was like a mask sorta like the egyptian wear

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:16 am

a cutlass
http://www.box.net/shared/3jjvjh1oe1

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:42 am

Seems more like a scimitar to me. Simple and nice, I like it.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:08 am

It's got a good shape, but IMO the blade looks too short compared to the handle.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:18 am

yep your right a scimitar i made the blade a bit bigger
http://www.box.net/shared/20oi0fr1vl

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:32 am

better quality with subsufing
http://www.box.net/shared/7f27rb2pcv

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:08 am

i noticed something missing in morrowind and that is toilets so i made a dunny to experiment with bending and such you might want to use it i think its fairly detailed because all the planks are seperate and deformed in different ways and i havent made a door yet because there might be one that matches like the shack doors.
http://www.box.net/shared/75426m4fan
http://www.box.net/shared/i032p9zzrg
http://www.box.net/shared/84e7u98i7v

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:08 am

TR isn't going to add toilets

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:54 pm

Indeed. About the latest version of the scimitar, the shape and size are just fine, but the detail you've added in the middle of the hilt is unecessary since a texture can do the same work. Most important, by removing that detail you save some polys.

P.S. It was about time we saw a scimitar in these forums, keep it up

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:02 am

Nomadic1 wrote:TR isn't going to add toilets

lol
thanks El Scumbago

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:12 am

where can i find architecture to make

Jedak · Post by **Jedak** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:40 am

Look at our concept art for inspiration.

Post by **Gnomey** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:59 pm

I think that you have the sharp part of the scimitar's blade on the wrong side. AFAIK, the sharp part is on the convex and not concave side of the blade, like this:

[url]http://www.andreas.blicher.info/images/Scimitar.jpg[/url]

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:09 am

i did make it sharp on both sides but i just changed it to be more like you said it also doenst have the detail on the haft now
http://www.box.net/shared/2ir4ecalg8

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:13 am

this is what ive got with arcitecture so far its not got much detail yet but im workin on it
its a tower
http://www.box.net/shared/g1u2mbjaf4
sorry for double post

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:21 am

This must be from Elfane's concepts, right? Nicely done. If you think you can manage more complex shapes, chamfering and archs, say it. I've got a whole HDD full of torment for you!

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:50 am

El Scumbago wrote: If you think you can manage more complex shapes, chamfering and archs, say it. I've got a whole HDD full of torment for you!

SURE ill give 'em a shot

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:42 am

Alright then. What's left to do is Upper Class architecture. Since it's Upper Class, it will inevitably be fancier than the rest and kinda challenging. Check this link: http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=goldmoorbasisucly3.jpg

This picture shows the basic look of the UC walls. It serves two purposes; you familiarize yourself with the set's style and you get to see if you can actually handle the job or not. What I want you to do is model this wall (don't worry about its sides and their width) and post screenshots as well as the .obj file of your work.
If you do this right and feel like going on, I'll begin sending you building concepts (which will eventually be much more complex than just a wall).

Feel free to send me as many pm's as you want if you get stuck and need explanations, or additional sketches. I'm looking forward to checking this out.

P.S. In case you try it and don't feel like making the UC set, you can always do the interiors for the LC buildings. But do give this a shot

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:36 am

sorry havent been here for a while i gave that wall a shot but got bored
heres where i got to
http://www.box.net/shared/aekrn15u3r

and heres somthing elese i was workin on for a day
http://www.box.net/shared/4mlh7j9zro
http://www.box.net/shared/bh8ppyqr5n

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:38 am

ooops pressed submit
i like making small things like weapons better than things like buildings

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:08 am

Oh, Hi there again

I tought you got bored or smth. No need to worry about that Upper Class no more, I will take care about that, so you don't have to make architecture stuff. Anyway, that lighter is very smooth and nice

Could you upload your meshes so I could take a closer look?

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:02 pm

uhh ill have to delete some crap out of it first
and also its VERY high poly

ohh umm 11mb i dont think ill upload it but i can take some more screenshots