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Joco · Post by **Joco** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:27 pm

Ok so I made one try at this one, don't know what you think, but I think it looks quit cool. Should I continue on this one?

[url=http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sword23tf0.jpg][img]http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5779/sword23tf0.th.jpg[/img][/url]

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:52 pm

Looks good, but has to be operational as well. Is it going to be two-handed? You need to make it lengthier. Is it going to be one-handed? You need to make it shorter.
I like the mesh, smooth and stylish.

Fairwater · Post by **Fairwater** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:23 am

Joco i actually made that one already.... it is in my showcase somewhere! But yours looks good!

Joco · Post by **Joco** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:34 am

Oh, I am sorry, I made some models out of the list of conepts on needed models. I am sorry if it was wrong of me to post these objects as claimed projects. If it was, please remove them and I can post them in my showcase.

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:51 pm

Revoked by user request.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:09 pm

do these still need to be made??

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:36 pm

yes they do

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:02 pm

How about these?

[url=http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stirk6zqrr9.jpg][img]http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8263/stirk6zqrr9.th.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sworddesignsl5hv6.jpg][img]http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5919/sworddesignsl5hv6.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:17 pm

We will definitely get to those eventually, but for now these initial weapons should suffice; we should focus more on statics and the like for at least a little while longer.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:26 am

im going to make meshes of this claim

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:54 am

personaly, i actualy think that the pics posted by morden fit in better into goldmoor then the ones in this claim. i think we can put them into a claim as well (maybe in a week or so)

the axe and the big eye thing have alredy been modeled by fairwater and besides minor optimisations and texturing can be used. i just came upon the meshes, ill upload them in a sec.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:21 am

hows this for a start
[url=http://imageshack.us][img]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4540/lutemothwep1uy5.jpg[/img][/url]
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aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:28 am

Hmmm... How are the polies? Because the mesh looks very nice

But on the other hand, I see some wierd smoothing here.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:55 am

yes that smoothing is wierd probably get fixed up when texture is on (i checked there is no overlapping or anything like that)
theres about 1000 faces

oh nup fixed it a bit
[url=http://imageshack.us][img]http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/427/lutemothwep1ch7.jpg[/img][/url]
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does it need any more detail?

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:40 am

Well, it looks ok judging by the render. How about the handle?

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:01 am

pretty simple really
[url=http://imageshack.us][img]http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/5596/lutemothwep1handlezb6.jpg[/img][/url]
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Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:15 pm

looks great! the polycount looks prety good to me as well.

here are the bone textures i was talking about, just scroll down to "Bone and Carapace" http://ladyn.tamriel-rebuilt.org/Textures.html

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:56 am

how about this textures
as i said im not very good at texturing
[url=http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lutemothwep1texeu8.jpg][img]http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5364/lutemothwep1texeu8.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:51 am

heres the other weapon might still need some editing
i like the bottom of the handle

there is about 1300 faces
[url=http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lutemothwepthingdm0.jpg][img]http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2869/lutemothwepthingdm0.th.jpg[/img][/url]

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:07 am

You did very well, especially if you think you're not good at textures. When we gonna add a normal map to this, the effects can be satisfying. How about trying something more interesting for the handle? I mean something that is closer to the concept. Also, there is some wierd smoothing, or a lack of smoothing on the second weapon.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:24 am

you mean abit like this handle this is the first time ive actually made a texture
[url=http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lutemothwep1handletexvh8.jpg][img]http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2480/lutemothwep1handletexvh8.th.jpg[/img][/url]

and is this better smoothing
[url=http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lutemothwep4ki0.jpg][img]http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9518/lutemothwep4ki0.th.jpg[/img][/url]

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:04 pm

Progress is good

But you should rescale or redesign some parts of the second mesh, because they really don't follow the concepts style.

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:34 pm

First weapon:

It looks good, although don't forget to texture those two knobs! And also, the texture on the shaft that sticks out at the top, above where the blades are attached, doesn't look realistic to me. Is it possible to edit it a little to make it seem more like wood?

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:12 am

ARO101
But you should rescale or redesign some parts of the second mesh, because they really don't follow the concepts style.
are you talking about the handle?

HAPLO
don't forget to texture those two knobs!
what are they made of metal/wood/bone

Is it possible to edit it a little to make it seem more like wood?
what do you mean? on the handle?

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:34 am

Not only the handle. If you have an option of using an image as an background for your work in your modelling software, use it, you will then clearly see what should be changed. If you don't have such an option, make a render not taken in a perspective and then compare it to the concept.

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:44 pm

I'd go with bone, as that would fit nicely (for the knobs)

And what I meant about the handle was...

The part of the shaft that is separated from the part with the grip by the bone... it doesn't look like wood. It looks like a plastic wrap on the model.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:26 pm

Hey im back again i had to have some surgery ill try and do some more

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:48 pm

Aro101
is this a better shape i put the concept on the background and made it shaped exactly except for some little bits (the ring on the bottom should it be a ring or a knot?)
[url=http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lutemothil5.jpg][img]http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1636/lutemothil5.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Jelle · Post by **Jelle** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:34 pm

I believe aro told at IRC he just got back from a little break but that was going to leave soon again. Until he can reply I do have some things to say:
first of all, the concept has 2 rings at the bottom on the handle, it is a small detail but you should keep to the concept as close as possible. Another thing is that IMO the model is to simple, make it smoother and add some of the carvings shown on the concept.
Aro already posted you should use a background image to match the concept better. From the renders I see you have Blender, and in Blender it is possible to use a background image as follows: in the lower toolbar click "view" > "background image" > "load image" and then of course, load the desired image. to see the background image you must be in top view, do this bij pressing numpad 7 while numlock is on. Now you can model excactly like the concept was ment

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:43 pm

yeah i did put the concept on the background image but sometimes it doesnt work so i had to make a new one (i exported then imported and then it worked)[url=http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledfj1.jpg][img]http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2166/untitledfj1.th.jpg[/img][/url]
do you mean carving as on the texture?

Jelle · Post by **Jelle** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:28 am

I mean that you should implement the stuff I circled in this image in the model:
[img]http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t175/jellew/lutemoth_weapons_191.jpg[/img]

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:40 am

like this?
[url=http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=luteroughme0.jpg][img]http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6872/luteroughme0.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Jelle · Post by **Jelle** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:05 pm

that looks way better, good work!

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:11 pm

much better, i agree. makes it seem rougher and bony-er

good job!

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:27 am

could some1 please help me with making a texture coz i cant make good ones

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:56 am

i had a little go i dont know if its the right colour and i just put golden material on the rings
heres the model
[url=http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lutemothbittexturedoc7.jpg][img]http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6403/lutemothbittexturedoc7.th.jpg[/img][/url]

heres the texture it wont work for the morrowind because its not a power of 2 in size but i dont know about OB if you thinks its good i can change it
[url=http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hardcottonwb5.jpg][img]http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6134/hardcottonwb5.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Jelle · Post by **Jelle** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:24 pm

I think the bottom thing should be bone and the rings shouldnt be made of such an expensive material like gold. Try to use something different, but if you need help with texturing just say it. About the power of 2: for Morrowind and Oblivion you should always use the .dds format for textures. .dds images must have a power of 2: this are image dimensions like 256 x 256 and 512 x 512. For weapons I always use 512 x 512 since it has a respectable quality and filesize.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:03 pm

i was going to mention this on PES, but ill say it here. please tell me when you are using my texes. i dont mind people using them, i just need to know when you do. i didnt know about it at all on PES, and you rehosted the one above.

now, personaly i think the weave is too big. this can probably be changed by adjusting the UV map or re-scaling the texture. also, i dont like the way you can see the white modern cotton peaking out from below. again, either texture rotation or re-UVmaping, the first one most likly easier. draw some folds into the cloth where its attached to the rings to make it look realistic.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:58 am

Lady Nerevar wrote:i was going to mention this on PES, but ill say it here. please tell me when you are using my texes. i dont mind people using them, i just need to know when you do. i didnt know about it at all on PES, and you rehosted the one above

Sorry i forget where i get textures coz i have a collection of different textures from many different sites and i forgot this was yours

i didnt know about it at all on PES

Huh?

Im still bad at texturing coz i have little exp with things like photoshop (i use ulead photoimpact)

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:50 pm

i corected your mismatched quote marks for better reading