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Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Mon May 05, 2008 7:32 am

loks nice!!! i will make. since my weapon claim is locked or something
how many poly?
what is down the bottom does the stem just go straight into the ground?
does the second variation have only one flower or can it have one flower and a flower not opened yet?

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Mon May 05, 2008 12:02 pm

Polies should propably be around 600 - 1600.
Yes, it goes straight to the ground.
The second variation is up to you. Choose whatever suits you better.

Granting

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Tue May 06, 2008 11:28 am

heres a render of what ive done and a wire render:
it has 1550 triangles came pretty close to the limit. no texture yet but what do you think
[url=http://img112.imageshack.us/my.php?image=render1cv6.jpg][img]http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/2594/render1cv6.th.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=render1wirebp6.jpg][img]http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9835/render1wirebp6.th.jpg[/img][/url]

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Tue May 06, 2008 11:34 am

The leaves should be done with an alpha map. The mesh would be more simple and the leaf shape with would be defined be texture transparency. Have a look at other finished plants to see how it works

Elfane · Post by **Elfane** » Tue May 06, 2008 11:36 am

Looking nice, but...
The top flower you made have 5 petals now, it should be 4. 2 larger ones and 2 thinner, look at the concept.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Tue May 06, 2008 11:42 am

wo 2 replys in about 5 mins.

The leaves should be done with an alpha map.

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Have a look at other finished plants to see how it works

uhm please tell where?

The top flower you made have 5 petals now, it should be 4. 2 larger ones and 2 thinner, look at the concept

ahh yes i see i thought that it looked unatural to be symetrical like that. but i guess that is the concept.

i fix these things soon too tired now to do.

Elfane · Post by **Elfane** » Tue May 06, 2008 11:54 am

If you have a look at IRL flowers you will see that they too are symetrical or follow rules of symetry.

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Tue May 06, 2008 7:59 pm

Take a look at some finished claims, here:
http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewforum.php?f=215

Look for flowers. The files are always downloadable on the top of the claim

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Wed May 07, 2008 11:31 am

here we are:
i fixed up the petals
i didnt use an alpha map for the leafs but i did for the furry part under the flower. i didnt use it on the leafs because they needed the polys to get the curve of them anyway. but the polys have been cut down to 958 triangles by using double sided textures. (i dare hope the work in ob) what do you think
also can we have normal maps on plant because this is very boring looking without a normal map.
[url=http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=render2largedy1.jpg][img]http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1682/render2largedy1.th.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://img505.imageshack.us/my.php?image=render2wiresd7.jpg][img]http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3841/render2wiresd7.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Wed May 07, 2008 12:14 pm

Fishcake wrote: also can we have normal maps on plant because this is very boring looking without a normal map.

A better question would be "can we not have normal maps" because as far as I know a texture without the complementary normal map is a texture that will simply not be rendered by Oblivion...

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Wed May 07, 2008 2:57 pm

Polies can be shown on both sides. PoHa told me how to do it once... I don't remember what had to be changed, but that can be switched easily, so don't worry

Good job.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Thu May 08, 2008 7:15 am

ok cool
how is the texture looking? good? bad? and is the modeling finished?
if so i can start to make the variation

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Fri May 09, 2008 7:11 am

oh ye the files. I uploaded them at the top.
I hope i used the right settings for the dds's.

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Fri May 09, 2008 11:46 am

The texture looks good. I have a problem with the normal map though. It isn't recognized properly and uses some different settings. (The normal map should be sort of blue, not yellow.)

The plant should be more brown... A lot more... Please follow the concept.

Leaves are still made wrong. Take a look at the mesh I uploaded for you to get what I mean. The shape should be defined by the alpha channel, not by the mesh.

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Mon May 26, 2008 6:52 am

is this more like it?

render and wire render
[url=http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=render3hn0.jpg][img]http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4240/render3hn0.th.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=render3wireqj2.jpg][img]http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1654/render3wireqj2.th.jpg[/img][/url]

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Mon May 26, 2008 5:59 pm

Yes, the mesh and the texture work better together now

The color is still too far from the concept though.

Elfane · Post by **Elfane** » Mon May 26, 2008 7:30 pm

make the petals more purplish and the stem more brownish-but-not-too-brown-only-slightly-brownish.

(purplish that word makes me smile, and if you did'nt understand more purple and brown...ish.)

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Tue May 27, 2008 7:19 am

ok sure. another question though: does oblivione use alpha maps like this sort of thing: [url=http://byfiles.storage.msn.com/y1pAyPUCLuWhtYX2bQFcsi6nGnWnUhTOtDYSqwjcMGofrzlueBeXu6o79cElWfzyB6-1hBHZmeJbHg?PARTNER=WRITER]Click Me[/url]

or does the actual texture have the alpha information?

Thrig Edit: Fucking long link fixed

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:30 pm

The actual texture includes the information inside the alpha channel. No additional files are needed.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:53 am

Any Updates? or can this be revoked? Fishcake appears to be long gone.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:01 pm

he hasn't been on since june. No one has posted here since July. I am revoking this.

Maddog_latrau · Post by **Maddog_latrau** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:40 pm

I'm not shure if i am allowed to clame anything but i allready made the modell for the second variation of the plant and a third

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:50 pm

you are not allowed to claim since you are not yet a modder. Post the files you've made in your showcase and hopefully you will get promoted for them.