Help with Firewatch Thieves Guild - ACTUAL BUG

Arkeyla · Post by **Arkeyla** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:13 am

BC -- It might be worth, then, either changing the value of the Soul or moving its location. Fixer's call.

I have tried multiple times to pickpocket the mage with the Herne's Soul, but every time I have gotten caught even though my sneak skill is about 75! Is there any chance that I will be able to do this without also getting expelled from the mage guild, or should I just bite the bullet and let myself have that happen?

BC EDIT for great justice/fixage

Theo · Post by **Theo** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:43 am

I am afraid the chance of picpocketing someone is also determined by the value of the item PC wants to steal. With Herne's soul being so extremely expensive there is almost 0 chance to do that succesfuly. While testing this I boosted my sneak to 100 and agility, personality and speed to 100 as well and still I couldn't steal the thing even on 6th attempt. On the one hand it is lore-wise that such precious soulgem is so expensive, but then a single MG member shouldn't just keep it in his pockets. Or it should not be for sale at all and have minimum prize.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:12 am

When I wanted to steal the Grandmaster's Retort from Berwen in Tel Mora, I found that impossible to do normally given Berwen was right there and the retort was worth thousands. So I used the Ring of Surroundings (from a quest from the guy in Fort Moonmoth) and the Amulet of Shadows (from a bandit south of Ald Velothi) to decrease my detectability.

They might help. *shrugs*

Blood Lord Marlech · Post by **Blood Lord Marlech** » Fri May 16, 2008 9:17 am

I've noticed that the Telvannis map, in particular, Port Telvannis, is nigh on impossible to sneak around in, even with level 100 sneak, and chameleon.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Fri May 16, 2008 5:08 pm

It might be worth, then, either changing the value of the Soul or moving its location. Fixer's call.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Sat May 17, 2008 9:48 am

Blood Lord Marlech wrote:I've noticed that the Telvannis map, in particular, Port Telvannis, is nigh on impossible to sneak around in, even with level 100 sneak, and chameleon.

Huh? I tested the map with a level 70 character with all the values at 100, and sneaking worked very well (obviously).

Blood Lord Marlech · Post by **Blood Lord Marlech** » Sat May 17, 2008 11:08 am

Well in Port Telvannis atleast, I couldn't find a spot on the outside I could sneak around in. *shrug*

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Sat May 17, 2008 3:52 pm

Blood Lord Marlech wrote:Well in Port Telvannis atleast, I couldn't find a spot on the outside I could sneak around in. *shrug*

There's a large amount of NPCs in that city, however with high sneak and security values you should have reason of the guards...

Arkeyla · Post by **Arkeyla** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:55 am

Okay, I tried with the Ring of Surroundings and Amulet of Shadows... still no luck after ten tries, and I checked my Sneak - it's 78. Also tried via the console, using the addspell chameleon_100_unique command, and still no luck after several tries. I guess I will try again with the amulet and ring once my Sneak is higher...