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Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:01 am

i fisxed the see through-ness and the bleeding and better lined up some vertices in the instrument2 i didnt texture though i uploaded it for anyone who wants to texture it

edit;the upload isnt working

Fishcake · Post by **Fishcake** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:20 am

ill try uploading in a new post

bamman62 · Post by **bamman62** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:16 am

I improved intstrument 2 some. There were 7 Ntrishapes and I narrowed it down to 2. I also added UV coordinates. I might give texturing a shot later on.

Jelle · Post by **Jelle** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:58 am

I had a look, it looks ok

. You might want to add some detail to where all the strings meet in the upper part of the instrument, but that's not absolutely necessary. If you also feel like fixing and texturing instrument 2 dont hesitate to press the claim button. If you just want to texture this one(that would be great

) an admin should split the claim for you.

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:21 pm

Lots of useless polygons in the original, so i edited it a bit.. it was 4079 tris when i added the two, now it is 3113, almost 1000 less with no REAL noticeable difference (except the strings which will be alpha mapped. Mind if i try to texture these too?

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:13 pm

ok, I UV mapped it, If anyone wants it textured, feel free to texture it

I will try to, but I suck at texturing, haha.
-Andy

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:35 pm

you wana claim these since youre doing them?

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:43 pm

ok, i textured the smaller one, but its probably crap. Do you think this would be good enough for me to claim it, or what?
Also, is a 1024 by 1024 map too big for this?

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:03 pm

im not too fond of the horn texture (i was thinking some kind of decorated metal actually, but you can deviate). otherwise its wonderful. go ahead and claim it

512 should be just enough.

[edit] actually, the horn is kinda growing on me (excuse the pun)... lets see what others think about it.

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:14 pm

Claimed.
I wasn't sold with the horn texture either, mainly because it had to be scaled for it to work. I will resize the texture and see how it looks...
Also, in case you were wondering: Yes, the strings are Nicole Richie's hair. :-p

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:22 pm

granting :)

Jelle · Post by **Jelle** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:03 pm

I like the idea of horns but its like the colour doesn't match. IMO you should replace the golden "ring" with something wooden or metal-looking and make the colour of the horns something around brown or "ivory yellow".

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:24 pm

Yeah, that would look alot better.. I'll update later today!
Thanks
-Andy

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:14 pm

I'm going to have to re UV map the horns, there is just too much stretching, but i got a good ivory texture, and a mock-up normal map.

It looks alot better than the old horns

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:41 am

Hey guys and gals,
I wanted to see how it looked in-game at this point and ran into some errors. First of all, its VERY dark unless you disable sky. The Ambient is all the way up, though. Also, you can't see the model through the alpha's areas, even though i should be able too. He is a collage of the errors.

Thanks, if you can help
-Andy

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:15 am

works outside just fine, though...

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:46 am

But this one doesn't, so I don't know what the problem could be...

Also, because I use Maya, I am unable to export the collision mesh for them, So at this point they can't fall over or be picked up. And you can walk right through them.

Jelle · Post by **Jelle** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:54 am

did you add a normalmap? Without it the mesh looks messed up and dark in interior cells.

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:40 pm

I have a normal map, but I am not sure if its working. I have it so its HandHarp.dds for the color and HandHarp_n.dds for the normal map on the small one, and largeharp.dds and largeharp_n.dds

Do i need to do anything more than assign the color? I heard that it auto detects the normal map.

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:16 pm

turns out the normal map wouldn't load because of the DDS settings i used... I got it working, but i still get the problem with the alpha on the strings

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:23 am

No Ideas on that Alpha problem? I am not having it with the smaller one, but I did. It seems to have cured itself, but the big harp still has that problem.

Jelle · Post by **Jelle** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:22 am

I don't know just now, but I would like to have a look at the mesh + textures so that I can try to find out what's wrong. I think it's something with the dds format you used or the alpha property which can be added in nifskope. Please upload the mesh and textures here.

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:43 pm

ok, i added it to the top of the claim. You may have to reassign the textures because they aren't in their original folders.

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:38 pm

Anyone checked this out.

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:19 am

Not yet, Jelle is away and Aro has stepped down. Someone will look at it as soon as possible, though.

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:22 am

ok, cool

Jelle · Post by **Jelle** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:25 pm

I can't have a look at this right now since I dont have oblivion here, and I will only have acces to my pc with it in 4 weeks or so since I will go on vacation to Scandinavia first. Someone might be able to have a look at it earlier though, and you can try to google which .dds compression you should use for the textures to make sure it works properly.

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:13 pm

I looked around a bit, but I can't find which .dds compression would eliminate this problem. I used the same compression on both, but I only get the problem on the big one...

PoHa! · Post by **PoHa!** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:18 pm

An alpha property problem, I think. I fixed it, AFAIK.

Also, I changed the texture file location to one that I think should be closer to what it'll be in OoT, but might be wrong, I've noticed they've been changing the filepaths recently:

Textures\TR\Clutter\LargeHarp.dds

[url=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/PoHaEiFor/Harpfix.jpg]Clicky[/url]

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:02 pm

thanks alot!
Just wondering, how did you manage to fix the problem, so I can fix it if it ever happens again?

PoHa! · Post by **PoHa!** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:13 pm

Ah, of course.

[url=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/PoHaEiFor/NifHarp.jpg]Relevant Pic[/url]

I played with the flags in the alpha property. To be honest, I wasn't getting anywhere (unless you wanted the harp to be some strange form of transparent, or completely transparent?). So I started looking around in vanilla meshes for something transparent that doesn't hide things behind it. I opened up one of the grass cover .nifs, checked the flags on it, and copied them directly. Presto, and pasta!

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:19 pm

ok, thanks!

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:01 pm

great, thanks PoHa

is this claim done now?

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:01 pm

sure, just let me upload it with the textures and stuffs.
Done.

Joopson · Post by **Joopson** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:20 pm

Just remembered that they will need a collision mesh, because Maya can't export collision stuff.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:02 pm

could someone please add a collision mesh?

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:14 pm

technically its havok, does blender export that? ill see if it does, if not ill give this regular collision sometime this week.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:15 pm

Lady Nerevar wrote:technically its havok, does blender export that? ill see if it does, if not ill give this regular collision sometime this week.

It did last time I checked, and that was way back with Blender 2.45 (I think we're in 2.47 now?)...

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:23 pm

thanks, i wasnt sure. ill try to do that then.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:11 pm

Did you ever get around to doing that?