The Hairstyling & Relooking Parlor Thread

immortal_pigs · Post by **immortal_pigs** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:32 pm

Male 4 would look good with Master Vaerin, I think. Currently Master Vaerin has the same face and hair as Rilmas Athyrion, the boss Telvanni of Marog.

Male 3 could look good with the boss Telvanni of Tel Mothrivra. I thought he would be a younger kind of guy. Last time I checked he had a real wise and old looking face.

Male 1'd be nice for the Mad Lord of Helnim.

Female 2 could be good for Llevari Telsaren, the Tel Muthada lord.

theviking · Post by **theviking** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:40 pm

Totally right, immortal_pigs, the faces fit the characters.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:42 am

Hey, did these ever get merged with Data? And did Petiboy ever upload that new batch of male Dunmer heads?

It would be good if they're in Data for Map 2's release, as some of the heads are for Map 2 characters.

Faalen · Post by **Faalen** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:02 am

Many of them are in Data; I'm using a couple of them in q1-77.

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:14 am

All the heads that were uploaded were added.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:21 am

Really?

I downloaded the latest Data from our page, but couldn't see anything. My bad.

EDIT: Of course - I hadn't downloaded the .esm. Schoolboy error.

Anyway, the last bunch over there (the ones being discussed at the top of this page) are, I think, too recent to have been included in the various packages that have been uploaded. So we're missing those and it's those ones that are needed (or rather 'quite wanted') for Map 2.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:54 pm

Sorry, for not posting them sooner.
Here's the file plus 3 heads, and a pic to disclaim wich head is wich file

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:54 pm

Love the guy with the black beard. Sweetness!

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:26 pm

Thanks

It occured to me, that only one of the dunmers has black beard

If I will have more time/ambition/energy I'll make some heads for the other races too. If anyone wants to request a specific head for an NPC.. just post it

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:08 pm

Actually, there was a similar retex job I had in mind for the next round of NPCing (i.e. Map 3, so still ages off for now, so no worries about rushing this for Data or anything), although not face based (though more faces would be corking if you ever have the time).

But just some simple retextures of the basic clothes would be nice, in different colour schemes etc., because when you NPC a city as big as Helnim, you really realise how limited the choice of clothing is.

In particular, a retex of the 'Imperial' common skirt 04 would be really useful, seeing as it's the only 'short' skirt availiable. It'd be a useful thing to have in more varied (and less blatantly Imperial) colors, for feisty barmaids and also 'warrior skirts' (like those worn by the Legion).

Or on a more adventurous level, Houses Indoril and Dres might need unique common and expensive(extravagant?) clothing sets, like the three Vvardenfell Houses have (the clothes with _t/h/r or _tt/hh/rr suffixes).

I dunno if that'd be something that'd interest you or no, though.

On the faces front, one guy who might do with a new face is the son of the Governor of Helnim. Currently using Imperial male face 07, but if we could get an even more 'young, fresh, bright-eyed, naive' face going, that'd be really great.

Anyway, this is only if you have the time, and are interested in the job. I'm perfectly happy with what we have right now, so thanks for that!

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:30 pm

I might do the clothing job, but no promise.

As for the face I will try what I can

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:39 pm

Whatever you can do is great!

The Telvanni Council is already indebted to you!

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:48 pm

Where can I find the son of the Governor? Or what's the name of him?

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:01 pm

He is "TR_m2_Darran Flavius", and can be found in the cell Kemel-Ze, Dzuran, in the latest Internal Beta file of Map 2. (He's a wannabe archaeologist)

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:53 pm

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadn ACTION!

EDIT: archive updated!

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:00 pm

Nice!

Could the eyes on Darran be made a bit bigger/open, or less 'frowny'? Perhaps the stubble should go as well (his father's a clean-shaven Breton, (TR_m2_Contumious) so we don't want him to look any older/more gruff). He might even be made a bit more pale, perhaps, to hint at Breton ancestry?

(If you do make these changes, keep this original head, as it's a very nice variant)

The Wood Elves are very good (and it's great to have an elderly female variant), though the beard on big-beardy dude looks a bit unusual in its mesh. Probably nothing you can do.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:05 pm

I'll try what I can, and update the rar file when it's done/accepted

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:07 pm

Great.

I look forwards to seeing what you come up with!

immortal_pigs · Post by **immortal_pigs** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:49 pm

Damn, you're good! I really like the addition of Wood Elf faces you've made.

Here's a request: Do you think you could make a variant of the "b_n_dark_elf_head_08" head? I think its the head you used to create your TR_pb_DE_head15 head with.
If you could make the head look a little older, a little wiser, maybe a little paler, I think it would look great as a head for Tribunal temple guys.

A quick question: Does the addition of new heads take up a lot of space? Cause it's great to have a lot more options when making NPCs, I just wonder if the additional heads would take up a lot of disk space. (like an extra 1Mb per face)

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:40 pm

Thank you immortal pigs:) Don't know why but when I look at that specific dunmer head, always TRibunal comes in my mind, it seems I'm not the only one

BTW one head mesh+texture is usqe 50 Kb

And here's a comprassion shot for the Flavius heads

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:46 pm

Top class! Excellent.

The first one should def. be kept as a generic head though, it's really good.

The second one gets Darran perfectly right, though. Good job!

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:52 pm

Okay, I have updated the archive file, with the two Darran head, and with this guy for immortalpigs:

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:54 pm

Nice! Let's hope this all works it's way into Data soon.

If you have the time Peti, got any thoughts on the possible clothes work? Or might there be some more faces up your sleeve?

Anyway, it's fine if you're done for now. Your work so far has been exemplary!

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:50 pm

Thank you BC

I can't say anything certain, I might work on clothes, but at the moment, I don't have the inspiration, but who knows what will be tomorrow:)
If you look at my showcase you'll find some of my clothing works btw.

However I'll certanly make more heads, there is many maps left, and we need variety for the other races too

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:06 pm

Great.

Ah, yeah, I remember that great robe you made in the Showcase! Did that ever go anywhere?

Your Dres shirt there looked great, too, and would be perfect as an extravagant shirt for the Dres (something we might well need).

Anyway, anything you could do would be great (particularly that skirt, or House clothing)

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:32 pm

The robes weren't used anywhere, atleast I didn't upload it anywhere

The only proble with the shirt is, that the mesh is from the Better Clothes mod...

But

I read TF's description of the NPC's in the castle of Old Ebonheart, and I fell in love with them, so I had to do some heads for them

In the upper line are the Governor's fmaily, in the second line are the Dres Duke and a younger version of the Governor's wife head.

Andres Indoril · Post by **Andres Indoril** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:01 pm

Pure sauce of awesome. I would even dare say awe full, but awful happens to be a bad word

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:56 pm

Sweet!

I like very much (Thrig should have the final word on any tweaks, of course).

Apart from any that end up as generics (whichever Gov's wife is not used), make sure these are bundled into a seperate archive, so that they can clearly be seperated from the ones needed for Map2 (i.e. generics and Darran and Telvanni Councilors).

For the Governor's son, do you think you'd be able to retex an Imperial haircut to look like Dunmer hair, and do a switch job on the ears, for whichever pair of Dunmer ears are smallest? It might be great if the Governor's son could have an Imperial style haircut like that.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:33 pm

Like this?

Andres Indoril · Post by **Andres Indoril** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:35 pm

Looks very good IMO if that counts for anything.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:44 pm

Exactly!

Perhaps one of the more obviously not Dunmer haircuts (a shorter one, maybe)? That one looks quite similar to an existing Dunmer haircut, I think.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:05 pm

The thing is, that the other imperial hairs clips very badly with the dunmer ears

Maybe someone who can modell, could edit them....sadly, I don't have the skills for this

Your opinion, (infact everyones opinion and feedbacks) means a lot Andres

Atleast for me

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:14 pm

Bloodthirsty Crustacean wrote:Exactly!

Perhaps one of the more obviously not Dunmer haircuts (a shorter one, maybe)? That one looks quite similar to an existing Dunmer haircut, I think.

I think I could try doing this. Just tell me which hair you're thinking about (model name).

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:15 pm

Ah, don't worry then.

EDIT: Whoop. Missed Gez.

Wait a sec'.

EDIT 2: I think hair 04 or 05 (05 might well be better) would be best.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:24 pm

Here's the file with the shorter hair style... itt looks realy bad now, I hope you can do some magicka with it Gez

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:29 pm

Would this work? I didn't test it in-game.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:01 pm

Mesh looks like it's probably okay. No textures were included, though, so it all showed up white in the CS.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:21 pm

Oh shit, forgot. Blender didn't want to show the textures so I renamed them to shorter names in the hope that it would show them. They're normal Morrowind.textures, they just don't have the right names.

Here's a fixed version.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:38 am

Very good! Perfect.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:53 am

Please pm me or post here if it is decided wich head will be used, or will it be used at all for the OE characters

Thanks!