The Hairstyling & Relooking Parlor Thread

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:36 pm

I would love to see a picture of the updated hair style.

As for the heads. The son looks rather feminine, but that will probably be fixed by the hair. I think the Governor needs to look a bit older and more worn. He isn't as young as I think that head shows. His wife is spot on. Dres duke needs to look a slight bit dumber. The face shows a smug sense of entitlement already, and I like that. Young wife doesn't really have a use, but it is also spot on.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:19 am

Thanks for the feedback Thrigg

I hope they are better now.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:19 am

Halve the governor's worn-ness and perhaps add a touch of grey to the beard and I think it will be perfect.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:33 pm

they look awesome, great job. very realistic and fitting with the original game.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:32 pm

I remembered today, if the beard is graying, so too should the hair. could one of the imperial hairs be retexed to have bits of gray?

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:32 am

Thank you Lady N

Here's the new head and hair combination Thrigg, I you like it

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:10 pm

could you put a bit more gray visible at the front please, and also does the beard color match the hair color? seems kind of brownish to me.

This is very nice and should be perfect with the next revision, thank you and great work.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:19 pm

Note that facial hair and cranial hair are not the same. Color, thickness, and shape are not necessarily the same. In addition to the barely-noticeable vellus hair that is present all over the body, we've got head hair, facial hair, chest hair, arm hair, underarm hair, abdominal hair, pubic hair, leg hair, foot hair; and all of them can have different "parameters" from the others.

I know my beard hair, if I let it grow, doesn't match my head hair.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:24 pm

LolGez.

Anyway, regardless of the actual science (of which Gez is worryingly knowledgable), I agree with Thriggy that a more black coloured beard would look better.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:33 pm

Okkay guys

I realy hope that it is now good enough

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:47 pm

very nice, I love it.

Thanks for putting up with my anality on this.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:28 pm

Thrignar Fraxix wrote:anality

Oh yeah, I forgot arse hair in the list.

Changed the thread title because "Quick Question" is kinda meaningless, especially for a three-page thread.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 4:37 pm

Good title Gez

Here are the files, I hope the texture paths are okay, atleast for me they worked

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:48 pm

So what files do I need? Just the last one?

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:51 am

pb_tr_heads02.rar, pb_tr_heads03.rar and tr_pb_oe_heads+hairs.rar

The heads in pb_Tr_heads02.rar are just named TR_PB_DE_headsXX but there are some unique ones among them, in my first post on the second page you can see wich head is unique, please somehow separete them in the CS

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:41 am

*whistles*

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:56 am

Hell yes!

Petiboy, you are the man! Many thanks!

All these are great, but if you have the time, I have a few requests. It would be nice to have one or two 'common-level' rather raggedy versions, and also perhaps one 'extravagant-level' ornate version, that looks like something a Temple warrior would wear.

But these are just fine, too!

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:00 am

I'll try what I can, still with the short skirt?

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:12 am

Yeah. We gotta cater for feisty shack-town barmaids as well!

Anyway, this will be really useful for NPCing, and it's a really great contribution.

If you have the time, as I mentioned way back when I asked about these retexes, some just general retexes of various items of clothing would really help add variety to towns (particularly of the higher level (i.e. 'expensive' and above) clothes), which can get repetitious, especially ones as big as Helnim (and not to mention Almalexia, where you'll really notice the lack of variety in high-level clothing).

Anyway, only as much as you have the time. Thanks again!

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:57 am

I'm not adding short skirts to TR Data.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:24 am

Okay, then you could've told me that before I start to work on them, but no prob.

Then would TR want any new clothing pieces, or those shitty recolors, already in TR_Data are enough?

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:07 am

Seriously Hap?

They can be quite useful. But hey, it's your call.

(And, you do know that this 'short skirt' mesh is already in the game - we're not adding this from some 'fashion' mod or whatever. I've used it a couple of times in NPCing, and it has looked mildly out of place seeing as its coloured extremely Imperial-ly, but all other skirts would have looked rubbish - that's why I wanted some Dunmer retexes)

I hope you don't say no to some retexes of other clothing.

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:16 pm

Those skirts aren't short. By short skirts I mean:

http://www.englishrussia.com/images/daily_photos/31.jpg

If you don't mean that then cool. If you do mean that then I need to see these vanilla short skirts myself.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:36 pm

We're talking about these short skirts (pictured), of the vanilla style (common_skirt_04), and Peterboy's retexes of that skirt (seen above). I requested some further, more Dunmer retexes.

The guy on the left is a Redoran warrior looking cool wearing a 'battle skirt' (but it's Imperial so looks crap, and won't be used - unless Peterboy gets us a more fitting retex), and the girl on the right is the Telvanni seductress sent to distract the Governor of Helnim. I just about allowed myself that because presumably she wouldn't wander up to him dressed fully in Telvanni gear, so an Imperial skirt just about works.

Anyway, it's just a useful tool to make warriors look cool and make women look younger/more plausibly 'attractive' considering Morrowind's crappy people graphics (I refuse Better Bodies etc. because that makes them look preposterouly good-looking).

But I'm assuming this is okay with you, now you know we're not doing anything silly?

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:01 pm

Are these enough low class? I'm searching for middle and high class fabric textures, but can't find anything good so far.

What did you mean by Temple warrior would wear? Could you describe it a bit more?

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:13 pm

Oh yeah that's totally cool, I thought you were talking mini-skirt.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:22 pm

Yep, those are perfect lower-class.

I think don't bother with the 'blue' one of the original three - it looks more like a 'rug type' fabric to me. Five (including the vanilla) variations of 'normal skirt' are probably enough.

For the 'Temple warrior' type, I'd say choose a base of 'warm coloured' fabric (reds and browns, possibly purples), and then add in some golden/more ornate detailing around the edges and stuff. There are probably some good Lutemoth/vanilla Morrowind concept arts of warriors wearing 'ashland gear' that might possibly serve as inspiration.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:22 pm

Like this?

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:40 pm

Great!

Actually, if we could get also a 'blue tone' version of that skirt, then that would be really good. It would fit both the 'brave Redoran type' warriors, and the 'calm, solemn Indoril types'.

But, as per usual, only if you have time!

Thanks again for these great contributions.

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:53 pm

Perhaps a white or black skirt would go well with Indoril as well. It would certainly give modders more options.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:07 pm

What if I do for every House a "temple" skirt?

Then this would be for Redoran, blue for Dres, white for Indoril, yellow for Hlaalu and Green/Brown(I don't remember) for Telvanni?

Each will have unique details, okay?

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:10 pm

Well, that probably would not look good with the armor sets.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:21 pm

Ha, I actually think it would be quite cool. Especially if you could work the House insignias on there in some way (i.e. Redoran scarab, Hlaalu scales, Telvanni root wotsit, Indoril 'winged bug' (see Almalexia banners), Dres Skyrender)

Telvanni is Brown.

I think if you could give it a go, that'd be great. (Also, if you are able to put them in the CS on the appropriately bonemolded warriors, we can ensure they look appropriate)

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:26 pm

I'm not sure about the insignias... it sounds boring to me, and only on the commoner clothes are they depicted

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:27 pm

Your call, man. You're the guy with the skills.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:38 pm

I'd put the insignia either on a sash or (in tiny, as a frieze) on the bottom trim.

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:20 pm

shit! the psd file of the temple skirt got totally corrupted...

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:33 pm

Akh. Any hope of recovery?

Peterboy · Post by **Peterboy** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:35 pm

Nope... starting everything from scratch... my notebook is dying as I see...

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:37 pm

Really bad...

I hope you can get something working. I look forwards, as always, to anything you can bring out.