Tamriel Rebuilt

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:14 pm

They look awesome, if these meshes are included in the OoT one day, I'll redo some of my market in Rihad.

Mwgek · Post by **Mwgek** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:45 pm

Very nice. If these stalls are filled with clutter it will definately give a good feeling when walking throught there in-game.. Great work!

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:16 pm

thanks guys. And I can make alot of texture changes as well... like I said: everything is uvwmapped

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:33 pm

Wouldn't it better if the clutter was separated from the market stalls?

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:49 am

well yeah, I think MwGek meant that with our items placed on there.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:47 pm

damn it nex hurry up and post some files so i can promote you

those look fantastic!

btw, as to your PM, the thread for this would be [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=21346]this[/url]. im not sure if you can see it as a member, but its there.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:34 pm

Lady Nerevar wrote:damn it nex hurry up and post some files so i can promote you

Are you sure, do we really need another modeler???

[/obvious joke]

His market stalls are just plainly godly, and he even included some laundry line like stuff!!!

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:39 pm

Hai Nex!

As it was suggested, you should export this scene in pieces, to give the modders a bit more freedom.

BTW, nice use of the cloth modifier. What did you use to model out those bamboo sticks?

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:21 pm

bah. I'll upload the 3ds file without the textures: since they aren't the real tex anyways. and thanks for the good feedback!

btw, as to your PM, the thread for this would be this. im not sure if you can see it as a member, but its there.

heh, I can't: and I'll work on setting up the modulars to be single stalls.

If you guys can't tell I am shooting for lc market. I think

[url]http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/4685/downloadjd9.jpg[/url]

looks alot more like an mc, and is the hc going to have architecture? I guess I'll learn more about it when Lady Hamster finaly lets me in out of the rain

[edited]

BTW, nice use of the cloth modifier.

ha I hand-placed every one of those vertecies. I usualy hand place everything on any freeform object I make: Cloth modifiers need lots of polys to work right the first time and I'd just end up moving the vertecies around anyway

I'd like to slightly animoot every hanging cloth, and I need the services of someone who knows havok.

What did you use to model out those bamboo sticks?

I used a cylinder and cut in-5-6 places, then mapped each cut to sit on the bamboo section. They take the majority of the polys, probably 14k-17k, but without all 5 segments i'm afraid they wont look good enough.

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:59 pm

Here you go.

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:36 am

Here's some more mod candy.

[url=http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/solobeck/TR/?action=view&current=lc_market_pot_1.jpg][img]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/solobeck/TR/th_lc_market_pot_1.jpg[/img][/url]

Completed: 100%
Facets: 468

The pot has all the UV's mapped: just waiting on a good oc texture. here is the UV Template. I wrote out descriptions to try and make the template idiot-proof

It's in 1024xbmp format to preserve the quality. Please use the download link below if your saving it tho. (photobucket resizes pics)

[url=http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/solobeck/TR/?action=view&current=lc_market_pot_1_template.jpg][img]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/solobeck/TR/th_lc_market_pot_1_template.jpg[/img][/url]

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:46 am

Alternate version of the pot posted above. Its slightly taller with 532 facets and a different uvw map. Refer to the uvwmap for "lc_market_pot_1" if you want to know what goes where.

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:54 am

Third and final version of the lc_market_pot. Its taller and a little more slender around. Same amount of facets. New UVW and Template: but still fairly similar to the other two.

Cheers!

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:22 am

Here's a knockoff with vertical handles on both sides. 560 facets and a modified uvw template. It might need to be scaled different but its pretty good as it is. (maybe smaller might be better)

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:23 am

and now for something completely different....

PEPPERS!

Im working on this texture right now: but anybody is free to trump whatever I come up with.

[edited]
here's the texture:

[url=http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/solobeck/TR/?action=view&current=lc_market_redpeppercluster_1.jpg][img]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/solobeck/TR/th_lc_market_redpeppercluster_1.jpg[/img][/url]

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:52 am

here is a censer from the concept in "8-60":
[url]http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/9666/complation2fv6.jpg[/url]

[url=http://s118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/solobeck/TR/?action=view&current=uc_market_censer_1.jpg][img]http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/solobeck/TR/th_uc_market_censer_1.jpg[/img][/url]

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:48 pm

the screenshots look fantastic, but sadly i cant open any of the files you posted since i dont have Max. could you post it in nif, obj, or even 3ds?

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:29 pm

I wait two days to find out I uploaded the wrong damn files (arrrrrgh)

This all the important files I uploaded previously
mixed down to 3ds. and obj.'s

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:29 am

yea, sorry that i cant process this any faster

im currently neck-deep in scholarship stuff (essays, research paper) in addition to the work associated with my rigorous coursework... i have about an hour to spend on the computer, most of which is taken up by reading and replying to posts. i will take a look at the posted files today or later tomorrow

maybe someone will get along even faster than me.

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:54 am

I'll wish upon a haplo...
(or maybe a thriggy)

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:57 am

heh, i dont think either of them can do models reviews. anyways, i took a quick look at this. it pwns so hard, i was literary speechless for a couple minutes looking at the market. ill give a full review (and promotion) tomorrow, but for now i have three questions/sugestions: make sure to make collision and havok for objects (collision for statics, havok for movable shit). check the scale on the market, im not sure if its big enough for OB. the market also needs to be split into modular parts (tables, overhangs, clothelines, etc.) so that it can be used in many different ways.

anyhow, formalities tomorro.

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:25 am

You were previously a TR Modder, which means you are eligible for automatic re-promotion.

Member re-Promoted for Modeling and Texture Art.

Welcome back, NexUmMonastica.

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:55 am

The haplo fairy came to visit me!

thanks for the warm welcome back guys.

@ LN: once I finish the market completely as a whole I'll plan out what becomes a modular and what doesn't: (wish I could upload my doodles) Ill just make cheap max versions of my concepts (I'm a horrible artist so I can make the model about as fast as I can draw XD) Those links on the 8-60 claim page are a big help: esp the RL pics.

[edited]
not sure if im blind or dumb but to what thread should I move all the marketplace work?

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:14 am

Probably the n8-60-Crown thread, once it's granted.

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:51 am

so I take it you saw the claim I made. I figured that's the best place to start. So all my progress should be posted there? I just want to be posting somewhere where i can get feedback and argue with the other modders 8D

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:02 am

This year's most obvious promotion, congrats!

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:50 pm

i guess haplo got here first, grads!

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:56 pm

thankyou for the gratz. If I post here again it will be for sound effects. Im working on some effects MaMeeshkaMowSkwoz did right now: and later I'll upload my organized progress (with 3ds/obj downloads) to the 8-60 claim thread and wait for some feedback before I go too far foreward with newer meshes. I know you're all busy with TR and RL, but I don't want to go off on a tangent that won't fit in hammerfell!

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:08 pm

Not looking for anybody to review this right away: whenever someone finds extra time to waste would be fine. I don't ever plan to leave the 3D department but I would like to understand exactly how TR wants interiors for TES3 and TES4 made. Ive perused through other peoples showcases before and after reviews but I'd like to see if I can do one myself.

Here's one cottage: located a few hundred meters SSW of Balmora
Ascadian Isles Region -23427, -31357 (-3, -4)

-Very little exterior work was done: I just chose a blank spot in (-3, -4) and moved a couple rocks
-"furn_com_coatofarms_01" displays an error and I had to remove it from its place on the wall with the crossed "iron battle axe"'s... Otherwise it would still be there. "furn_com_coatofarms_02" seems to be giving me the same error.
-I stayed as far as I could within the common module set: I'm sure someone will slap me if I strayed too far

Kiteflyer61 · Post by **Kiteflyer61** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:22 pm

I'm not an official reviewer but I took a quick look at your file:

You have the 72 "evil" GMSTs, you need to have your file dependent on bloodmoon and tribunal to keep this from happening. All TR work should be dependent on them anyway. You can also use TR Data.esm to have more objects to work with. Your file is also quite "dirty" as well. There are cells other than where you placed the house that show up as being modified. There are numerous statics that were marked as being modified when they weren't changed. This will change all instances of those objects for the whole game. This is a big no-no. You should also make an interior that uses seperate parts put together rather than a one piece interior. It shows that you know how to use gridsnap and how to make an interior that conforms to one of the exteriors.

As far as style goes, I liked your placement and you show a real eye for detail. There was a small amount of style mixing but overall it was pretty good. I'm pretty sure that nord stuff doesn't belong in the Balmora area though.

If you want to get promoted for interiors you shouldn't link to the outside world. If you want to get promoted for exteriors you should make a small landmass off the coast somewhere (in the wilderness) so that the reviewer can see all the changes you've made yourself.

If you want to make another file that follows the guidelines I'd be more than happy to take a look at it.

You might want to read through the tutorials on the main page as well. You'll find them to be very helpfull.

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:23 pm

At the moment: the only thing bloodmoon does is crash and say "can't load de_snow.nif" But it does not matter in this case because once the plugin is saved on the reviewer's side with the expansions loaded it will be automatically dependent on those expansions.

As per the other interiors: I was viewing them in the diologue box to see what the had in them: but I know better than to actually touch anything. (some opened accidentally because my mouse DB clicks too easy

) Next time I will open a second CS instance and do it there so it doesn't corrupt the file.

I picked AI region randomly XD I realize that a Nord cottage that far into Vvardenfell is a little wrong

thank you for the tips: I will do my next showcase piece as you advise!

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:50 am

Just to add, you can check through your Morrowind files for dirtiness and GMSTs and such, and remove them from the file by using a utility called TESAME. You can find a link to it on the website menu.

NexUmMonastica · Post by **NexUmMonastica** » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:49 pm

Thanks, Catharsis. I'll give it a try!