Telsar's Music

Telsar · Post by **Telsar** » Wed May 27, 2009 1:48 am

Here's where I'll put my music.

And the first one is up for review:

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Wed May 27, 2009 3:06 pm

I do like it, but I also have one critique, I don't like the horn at the first.

I'd like to hear a more subtle intro, or use a cello, but the brass just doesn't fit with the rest of the song, infact it's kind of distracting.

As far as the rest of the song is concerned, it keeps a decent pace the whole song, and is plenty long enough. Although the original MW battle songs seem to be more legato, and have a lot more reverb to them, I think your song will fit in well. I'd just like to see something done with the horn at the first.

MMMowSkwoz · Post by **MMMowSkwoz** » Wed May 27, 2009 3:59 pm

Is this for Morrowind? I must say, I'm very impressed. I think this will fit wonderfully with the vanilla music.

Telsar · Post by **Telsar** » Wed May 27, 2009 4:18 pm

Yeah I was iffy about the horn intro. I wanted an inspirational "call to battle," hence the name of the song, so I thought some sort of solo brass voice at the beginning would be appropriate. I didn't want a trumpet, though it would certainly fit a stereotypical role, so I went with the milder horn voice. But yes, I agree, something needs to be done with the intro. I'll toy around with some other voices or I may just cut out the solo intro all together.

I would initially agree that the entire introduction as a whole could be more subtle, but how long does an average Morrowind/Oblivion battle last, especially at the point where people are applying TR mods? I wanted to get into the main theme of the song quickly because most battles will be over quickly.

I'll wait and see if I get any additional suggestions before I release another version. Other than changing the horn I may add some more reverb. I feel that the brass fits in well, but I'll see what I can do about melding it more with the song.

And MMMowSkwoz, thanks for the encouragement

.

Evil Eye · Post by **Evil Eye** » Wed May 27, 2009 4:43 pm

Telsar wrote:initially agree that the entire introduction as a whole could be more subtle, but how long does an average Morrowind/Oblivion battle last, especially at the point where people are applying TR mods? I wanted to get into the main theme of the song quickly because most battles will be over quickly.

Keeping this one!
My avarage battles are about 2-5 seconds if it's something thougher (special lich, werewolf, etc) up to 5 minutes maybe?

Telsar · Post by **Telsar** » Thu May 28, 2009 4:07 pm

Here's a minor rework of the song. I replaced the horn with tremolo strings in order to provide the feel for impending battle. I like it, but let me know what you think. I also lowered the volume of the brass.

Gesshoku · Post by **Gesshoku** » Thu May 28, 2009 6:10 pm

I love it, the changes are excellent. Hopefully we can get another opinion or two, but in my eyes it'll fit right in and I think it's an approved battle song.

Anyone else have any opinions?

Don Bernardo · Post by **Don Bernardo** » Fri May 29, 2009 3:16 am

Hi Telsar! I'm glad we have more and more composers now!

Great battle track. I think it fits too. Definitely keep the changes you made. If I had to critique anything about it, I'd say try varying that drum a little so that every stroke isn't at the same intensity. It might make it sound more natural. Boom ... BOOM ... boom Boom ... BOOM ... boom or whatever. Just a suggestion though, it's great the way it is.

Telsar · Post by **Telsar** » Fri May 29, 2009 10:07 pm

Thanks for the feedback. Let me know if there is anything more you definitely want changed.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Sun May 31, 2009 5:37 am

Hey Telsar. You are also before my time- which is interesting because I think of myself as fairly old. Oh well.

I like the track, overall it's quite good. I have just one tiny suggestion- that first note should probably crescendo in from a soft dynamic. You never want to have a long sustained note that dosent grow or shrink- especialy when it's that naked.

Keep up the good work!

ThÃƒÂ©odore · Post by **ThÃƒÂ©odore** » Sun May 31, 2009 8:26 am

Love it.

Very nice song.

Telsar · Post by **Telsar** » Sun May 31, 2009 7:30 pm

Macar, thanks for the feedback. I do agree with you, but there are a couple of reasons why I didn't add any dynamics to that note. First and foremost, it was because I recently switched to Cubase and I was ignorant on how to change the volume on a single MIDI note when I wrote this song (I have since figured that out). Second, as this is a battle song, I feel that its beginning should be easily discernible. A soft dynamic at the onset could be difficult to hear amid other game sounds. Depending on how quickly the volume increased, a player could could potentially begin the battle before he or she ever hears the battle song. It could be a very fast crescendo to offset this, but that wouldn't make much sense musically. Perhaps the first note could taper down in a diminuendo as the percussion and strings enter? That would preserve the initial perceptibility of the song while adhering to traditional music theory standards. What do you think?

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 3:25 am

That might work. You do have a point about the onset isue- though there were tracks in the MW soundtrack that started with a crescendo if I recall correctly. (I just had a listen and mw battle 5 is definately like this) The dim. might work too- you'll have to see how it sounds.

Of course, this suggestion isn't really based on a theory rule- it's just asthetic. It's just something that players do so it will help make make it just a little more lifelike.

Telsar · Post by **Telsar** » Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:17 pm

I think I found the middle ground. I went with a sfz attack on the first note then went into a slow crescendo. The dim. didn't sound that great, so good call on the crescendo, Macar. Let me know what you think.

Don Bernardo · Post by **Don Bernardo** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:13 am

The sfz. cresc. sounds pretty awesome like that. I'd say this one is good to go.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:53 am

Perfect solution, why didnt I think of that?

Don Bernardo · Post by **Don Bernardo** » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:14 pm

I recommend Telsar be promoted for music.

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:51 pm

Oh hai Telsar.

You've been Promoted for writing music. Congrats

Telsar · Post by **Telsar** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:09 am

I guess I'll assume this one is good to go. I'll start working on another.