q1-75-Tel

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:35 pm

No, Trivra's not the cultist. She's a Boethiah Cultist sympathiser (not member), and while initially planned for the MBC, this conflict was realised and she is going to be excised from the line. She still turns up in some plans, but don't get confused - someone else will take her place.

Re: Llothanis, that's the Head of Lore's prerogative. It's just been actually enacted, though he asked for it to happen several months ago.

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:24 am

who will take Trivra's place?
thanks;
Pacific Morrowind

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:57 pm

What do you need a Boethiah cultist for? I can't really remember the quest plan here.

If you need 'the' Boethiah cultist, we don't really have a name yet. It's still in planning.

If you just need 'a' Boethiah cultist, make a new NPC in a tavern somewhere or something.

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:35 pm

I need a Molag Bal cultist, I just need one not the head one or anything, but it is supposed to be obvious to any who had played the MB quest that it is MB cultist. Any suggestions with that in mind?
thanks;
pacific morrowind

theviking · Post by **theviking** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:24 am

I'm sorry, but not at all. There is one bloke called Salms Alan that could be such a person, but his part in the Molag Bal cult is not yet designed. Lud should know more about him. I think you can use Salms Alan for this quest, but of course the one in the Molag Bal questline should be equivalent. I'm going to contact Lud and say him that you are busy with that Molag Bal cultist. Then the two of you can figure him out.

Lud · Post by **Lud** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:41 am

Salms Alan is a morally ambiguous Molag Bal cultist. He gets killed during the questline, but it's not quite clear whether he was a traitor to the cult or whether the player was tricked into killing him for somebody else's political desires. He also gets killed, so I wouldn't use him.

There are a couple of cultists present at the start of the MB quest that aren't really fleshed out; just use any NPC you like and the MB NPC can be made to fit yours. This guy will be somebody who helps to initiate the player into the cult.

How does that suit?

BTW, MB line coming soon.

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:13 am

Sedave Indala Coming soon to a wilderness near you. I was thinking of having him and his camp disabled unless you have this quest (and once the MB questline is created, unless you have the first journal) or would you prefer that he is always there waiting to be killed by some trigger happy Orc?
Pacific Morrowind

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:35 am

Just checked out your file, and apart from a couple of typos, which we can pick up later, there's a quick change to your journal naming required - rather than TR_m1_HT_BG03, it should be TR_m1_HT_BG3 etc. (no 0)

And remember that Eldale's quests, as indicated by the plan, begin at 3, not 1.

Otherwise, all looks pretty good.

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:38 pm

ok, will change.
Pacific Morrowind

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:21 pm

Uploaded new esp. with Quests 1-3 complete, to use you will need the attached 7z extracted to your data files and the esp checked, unless you have a new TR_data with my addition. please post errors. I fixed Bal-Gernak's chambers, there was a hole in the wall.
thanks;
Pacific Morrowind
ack- my attach button is nowwhere to be found, I will attach it to the top of the topic

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:51 am

pacificmorrowind wrote: ack- my attach button is nowwhere to be found, I will attach it to the top of the topic

That is where you are supposed to upload WIP files for claims

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:48 pm

TR_q1-75-Tel_pacificmorrowind_2
(Hum... Not sure if I have checked the 2nd or 3rd file! Ops!)

For unknown reasons my computer is still unable to load the Bal Gernak Manor interior, so I had not playtested pacificmorrowind's quests yet, I just had a quick look at the journal. To start things off, here's a very silly (picky as usual) question:

In Morrowind dialogue, has a race name supposed to be wrote in capital letters or not? Because every journal of TR_m1_HT_BG01 ("Bal Gernak VS. Eldale") don't use capital letters for races, for example TR_m1_HT_BG01 journal index 25 says "I have given Bal-Gernak a khajiit skull. Next he wants an orc skull", while TR_m1_HT_BG_02 ("Killing Gra-Ghosh") journal index 10 uses capital letters instead: "Bal-Gernak hired an Orc named Gra-Ghosh etc.".

Very minor typos and possible spelling errors I found:

TR_m1_HT_BG01

the quest title "Bal-Gernak VS. Eldale" wouldn't look better as "Bal-Gernak vs. Eldale"?

journal index 15
"Bal-Gernak wants some skulls collected for scientific research. It sounds dubious but the Telvanni often reward even menial labor richly. He wants a mer or man skull first" (needs a period at the end);

journal index 25
"I have given Bal-Gernak a khajiit skull. Next he wants an orc skull" (same as above);

journal index 35
I'm not an english language expert, which one of these versions is the best?

The original version:
"I have given Bal-Gernak an argonian skull. He has finally rewarded me. If I ever find vampire skulls he is interested in them. When I started this quest he mentioned that he had multiple tasks for me, I should enquire to see if he has any others."

My own version:
"I have given Bal-Gernak an argonian skull. He has finally rewarded me. If I ever find vampire skulls he will be interested in them. When I started this quest he mentioned that he had multiple tasks for me, I should enquire to see if he has any others."

Second quest, same question as above: which one sounds better?

TR_m1_HT_BG02 "Killing Gra-Ghosh"

journal index 10

Original version:

"Bal-Gernak hired an Orc named Gra-Ghosh to find the skull that I successfully found and delivered to him. Unfortunately this Orc misunderstood Bal-Gernak and has taken to killing travelers for their skulls. He has taken up residence near a pass on the road just east of Tel Oren. Bal-Gernak wants me to go there and kill him and remove any evidence before the legion or mages guild gets there."

My own version:

"Bal-Gernak hired an Orc named Gra-Ghosh to find the skull that I successfully found and delivered to him. Unfortunately this Orc misunderstood Bal-Gernak and has taken to killing travelers for their skulls. He has taken up residence near a pass on the road just east of Tel Oren. Bal-Gernak wants me to go there, kill him and remove any evidence before the legion or mages guild gets there." (here I have just put a comma between "there" and "kill him", instead of "and").

journal index 23
Original version:
"I have Kill Gra-Ghosh and dealt with the evidence, I should now report back to Bal-Gernak."

Fixed version:
"I have killed Gra-Ghosh and dealt with the evidence, I should now report back to Bal-Gernak."

journal index 25
"The traveler who looks to be some kind of mage has killed Gra-Ghosh" (needs a period at the end)

journal index 35
Original version:
"The travelor has aproached me and introduced herself as a Mages Guild member investigating a report of necromancy in the area. She has asked me to stand down and leave the area."

Fixed version:
"The traveler has aproached me and introduced herself as a Mages Guild member investigating a report of necromancy in the area. She has asked me to stand down and leave the area."

Just one note: according to the old "Killing the Messenger" journal, "mages guild" should be always typed with capital M and N, "Mages Guild". Please check TR_m1_HT_BG02 journal indexes 10, 43, 44, 45, 55, 60, 65 and fix that.

That's all for the moment, will check the dialogue later.

theviking · Post by **theviking** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:52 pm

How is this going, pacificmorrowind?

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:32 pm

Oops.
I said somewhere else on this forum, that my computer had broken down. It still isn't fixed and I am using a dinosaur that has no harddrive (okay a miniscule one) and has a hard time running firefox let alone the CS/MW. As soon as I get my computer working again expect an update.
Pacific Morrowind

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:54 am

Just posted Quest 4 (the special book is just junk as a place holder (just copied some other TR book ;)) but other than that it should be fine, with my memory on this computer I can't actually test it (MW wont run but the CS will run slowly (now that I got a real HD in). Quest 5 is half done but don't expect there to be minimal errors in that half, Haven't error checked it yet. Looking for error reports for the first 4 quests, incorporated Osiris's suggested fixes, capitalized the race names since in all the MW standard dialogue they are capitalized, tell me if I should decapitalize them, Also some other miscellaneous tweaks and fixes.
Pacific Morrowind

theviking · Post by **theviking** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:29 pm

Great, I hope it gets playtested soon.

immortal_pigs · Post by **immortal_pigs** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:22 pm

I have gone through all your journal entries, save for BG quest number 5. Here's what I found:

HT_BG1 15: "Bal-Gernak", should be "Bal Gernak".
[Disp/Index 20-35 all have "Bal-Gernak"]

HT_BG1 20: "mer/men". Replace with "the skull of either a man or mer". OR make two separate journal entries for it being either the skull of a man or that of a mer.

HT_BG1 35: "When I started this quest he mentioned that he had multiple tasks for me, I should enquire to see if he has any others."
I don't think this fits in the way journal entries are usually made.

HT_BG2 10: to find the skull[add s] that I successfully found and delivered to him. Unfortunately this Orc misunderstood Bal-Gernak

... or mages guild gets there.

HT_BG2 30: Seeing as I had already killed the orc [add comma] Bal-Gernak has rewarded me richly, however he did not say why he wanted him killed so that may always be a mystery.

HT_BG2 55: though the Mages guild had already

HT_BG2 60: had let the mages guild member live

HT_BG2 65 is basically the same as Disp/Index 60. Why??

HT_BG3 10: "I must track down and Sedave Indala" ---- A word is missing?

HT_BG3 20: "after I have brough" ----- Why is this past tense?

In Disp/Index 20 you refer to "Helvia Jotlun". After that she is refered to as "Helvia Stoinless". Which one is it?

HT_BG3 26: Add a DOT to the sentence., same goes for Disp/Index 27.

HT_BG3 40: "Bal-Gernak".

HT_BG4 40: Add a DOT and make two sentences or add a comma.

HT_BG4 45: "Bal-Gernak".

HT_BG4 50: "what all these quests have been about."
Again, refering to "quests" doesn't really fit in my opinion.

Oh, and in the beginning entries at least, you refer to "Gah Ouadaruhn". Gah Ouadaruhn is supposed to be "Llothanis".

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:48 am

been over a month, any updates?

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:49 pm

Should have made sure it posted, I thought I had posted about 2 weeks ago, but looks like it got lost somewhere in between my head and the site. I will be posting a WIP within a couple days with a few new quests done.
Pacific Morrowind
PS. Vista UAC sucks - good thing they let you disable it, good news is now I can play test this thing as I'm working on it! With new laptop & vista MW runs fast and works, no key mapping required either, & console works fine.

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:30 am

completed quests in this version with notations about any changes from plan:
ALL of the Bal Gernak quests. - any changes discussed earlier. please playtest.
El3 - betraying Bal Gernak, can be started anytime after doing Eldale's mouth quests and Bal Gernaks 1st quest. in which case she says to spy on him, go ahead kill the orc, but get the amulet for her. or if you warn her about Bal Gernak after already giving him the amulet, she gets you to steal it however it is not anywhere to be found in Bal Gernak's Manor or chambers. which leads to: please playtest.
EL_misc: ask one of the slaves (Galgah) about amulet, he knows where to find it, however you must free him and give him netch leather armor, steel dagger, 500 gold and take him to argonian mission in FW, then he tells you there is a secret lever that will transport the player to Bal Gernak's special storage room (new disconnected room in Bal Gernak's chambers). please playtest.
El4 - either steal the book (from same place as the amulet) or get her the book by leading some cards from tel ouada to sagea and killing necromancer. stealling book not implemented yet, please playtest other option.
El5- only partially implemented - no point really playtesting.
PacificMorrowind.

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 7:35 am

EL4-stealing the book implemented. please playtest up to here, give suggestions, etc.
redownload if you already downloaded the file that was up - I uploaded the wrong one (an older version) only download file #6.
Pacific Morrowind.

theviking · Post by **theviking** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:34 pm

If someone wants to playtest, this is the claim that needs it most at the moment. (map2 still has a higher priority) It's good to hear from you, pacificmorrowind.

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:43 am

for the rescuing of the slave for Sedave Indala (BG3) what journal code do I use?
still working on this.
PacificMorrowind

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:27 am

Well, whatever makes sense, I suppose.

If it's part of BG3, but needs a seperate journal entry, call it like BG3_a.

If you give it the same 'Quest Title', all its journal entries will be filed along with the other BG3 ones in-game.

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:52 pm

okay, it is an optional quest that is only available after you bring npc x or y to Sedave Indala as a new slave, it can be done through the Eldale or BG side of the quest but the first command is from Bal Gernak. It definitely wants a different quest title, since it would be "rescuing NPCName" (well two quests each with a different name, but only one of which you can do depending on your choice of slave) or something like that. So I can do BG3_a or something or I was wondering about Q75_misca & miscb. I can do whatever fits best with TR policy on this or whatever sounds best to questing.
Pacific Morrowind

theviking · Post by **theviking** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:21 am

BG_a sounds better, but TR_BG_a even better,

. It is fine to add these miscellanious quests to your file. And note that i almost everywhere use "fetch item" as a quest title, it doesnt have anything to do with the quest.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sat Dec 06, 2008 9:53 am

And TR_m1_HT_BG_a sounds even better than that!

theviking · Post by **theviking** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:47 pm

How is this going, pacificmorrowind?

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:55 am

EL5- find evidence of wrong doings on Bal Gernak's side. Talk to Eldale to start quest. however you won't find anything...
El_misc - which leads to this. talk to a slave (Galgah) buy them, set the free give them some stuff and take them to FF, and they tell you where to find evidence.
Pacific Morrowind.
(Sorry for the long delay between updates)

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:48 pm

Progress?

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:54 am

Modder gone since February. Normally I would revoke, but I'll leave it to the HoQ to revoke this or just e-mail the modder.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:26 am

Revoking.

If Pacific happens to see this ever, a more recent WIP would be appreciated, if work has not yet begun.

Anyway, this is now open to other claimants.

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:53 pm

<pacific morrowind slinks in hoping no one notices>/morrowind dialogue

sorry for the delay...

been almost totally inactive on building this too. almost done the pt dailogue re: the new wizard to replace Bal Gernak. should be able to post a new wip with that quest complete sometime in the next 1-2 weeks.

MMMowSkwoz · Post by **MMMowSkwoz** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:03 pm

Good to see you back pacificmorrowind

This has been revoked. Are you claiming it again? If so, you might want to read [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=21649]this[/url]. Not sure how that will affect the completion of this quest - I suppose it depends how close you are to finishing.

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:20 pm

ah yes that was the purpose of that post. so reclaiming.

it doesn't look like that should affect this much (unless i missed something in my quick read).
thanks;
Pacific Morrowind

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:30 pm

You'll need to click the button.

And bear in mind our recent new rule about claims over a month without updates. I don't want to have another huge absence if you're still seriously wanting to work on this claim.

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:26 pm

okay will do. and I totally understand that. sorry for the previus huge absence.
Pacific Morrowind

pacificmorrowind · Post by **pacificmorrowind** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:30 pm

reclaim...

MMMowSkwoz · Post by **MMMowSkwoz** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:50 pm

So is this being finished with a dependency on Map 1 or is it going to be transferred to dependency on the new file after the Day of Merge?

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:12 pm

The latter, as with all Telvanni quests.

So yes, pacific if you could hold off work for a day or so, that'd be excellent (you'll need to be working off the new .esm we'll be providing shortly).

And granting.