4-7-Red

Post by **Haplo** » Sat May 14, 2005 8:15 pm

Claim type: Exterior
Claim ID: TR_4-7-Red (#144)
Faction: Redoran
Claimed by: Katze
Status: Approved (Progress: 100%)
Location: (-12,-24):(-11,-26), Size: 6
Files: TR_4-7-Red_Cathartis_1.esp; TR_4-7-Red_Haplo_1.esp

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Should be mostly Ashlands.

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:53 pm

Claim sucks, needs to be redone.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:28 pm

Cells split from map 4 to expedite claiming.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:12 am

Except, don't use that file because claim needs to be redone from scratch. There was a reason the claim cells weren't cut and uploaded here, TF. Also, remove the river.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:21 am

there is only one cell border here that touches an unfinished exterior claim. Unless the 4 finished claims surrounding this one are pending for a revoke (which is entirely possible) then the borders and general land height are of some use.

These claims are just sitting here, even a slight bit of help might be of use for getting people moving.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:21 pm

It's 6 cells and one of three available claims, I don't think there's much anyone can do to make it more attractive.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:18 pm

translating for TF... PLEASE SOMEONE CLAIM THIS

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:39 pm

Claiming. Just to clarify, which claim borders should I keep as-is, and which am I allowed to mess with?

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:46 pm

Try to match all the borders. If you see something stupid or something that doesn't make sense, post here and we'll go from there.

Granted.

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:56 am

Not really much done yet, had a couple of non-starts and fuck ups, but I think I'm on the right track now. Deleted the old statics, did some texturing and a small amount of vertex shading.

This file is only really a safe place to store my work while I go back home for Xmas.

Am I allowed to place a cave entrance on the range of hills running north-south?

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:04 am

Yes. There should be at least 1 interior every 3 or 4 cells. Add any you feel are necessary.

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:04 am

Indeed. Thanks for the update.

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:50 pm

One more update before I set off home (I'll carry on modding whilst there, just this place is reliable storage).

That grazelands corner (about 1 cell of 6) is pretty much complete now, just got the dreary task of making all the ashlands cells left to do.

On that front there are some little bits added there, too, and the correct cave entrance has been added for my cave. I'm perhaps thinking of adding a velothi tower to the southern edge on the western side of the range of hills, if that's alright.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:07 pm

Adding a tower is good.

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:51 am

No upload this time, don't see the point, but is changing the central spine of hills to MA instead of AL fine? I want to keep the hills, but AL really isn't suited to tall hills, and MA looks more like ashy mountains anyway.

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:13 pm

Good too see you finally decide on that

, but if it does strictly require ashland, then keep in mind what I said about the ma textures and the ma sulphur rock (in IRC the other night). Pic below for an idea.

It should be fine to do so, I mean when the map4 claims are properly put together, someone can always clean up any ashland textures on the north and south of this claim.

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:18 pm

I was imagining the mountain tops to be rocky MA as any wind would affect the tops most, and have dusty, ashy AL accumulate in the lower valleys. Anyway, everything west of this claim is the Armun Ashlands as far as I understand it.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:16 pm

I'm fairly sure that Bethesda had used RM textures for the tops of mountains and ridges in the Ashlands and Molag Amur.

You don't want to use textures in this claim that nobody else in the other claims is going to use, though.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:51 pm

your the trendsetter cathartis. do what looks right.

Kiteflyer61 · Post by **Kiteflyer61** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:57 pm

I'm currently working on 4-29 which is a small claim on the edge of the same ashlands you are working on. Feel free to (in fact please do) look at my WIP file and let me know what you think. If they are still up when I finish 4-29 I plan to do 4-30 and 4-9 (both at once if I'm allowed) since they border 4-29. If you like how 4-29 looks I can tell you what I used. I haven't done any shading or small statics yet but you can still see how it will look.

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:52 pm

I reckon I'm getting increasingly close to finishing this claim, if anyone would like to download my latest WIP and let me know of anything that looks good, wrong or needs adding, it'd be greatly appreciated =]

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:15 pm

Wow, didn't realise how tiny these claims were at this stage! Maybe I should get into exterioring.

I feel the floor of the western (north) corner could do with a bit more rubble/rocks in the ashland section near the mountains.

The river looks 'strange' though I can't say why. Might be the width, the shallowness or the lack of stuff in it. Dunno, but maybe you're not finished there. EDIT: Oh, Haplo up top is right. There's not meant to be a river in this claim any more.

The path up the hill to the cave should not be two tiles' width, because it will look huge (and also at a slightly funny angle) in game. Make it narrower and more claustrophobic.

Perhaps experiment with RM rocks on the hilltop?

But yeah, very nice work. You've nothing to worry about.

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:18 am

Well this is on the small end of exterior claim sizes, but you should get into exterior work anyway, BC; it's fun and helps you grow as a modder.

But yeah, remove the river. And not even city streets are two tiles wide. I don't have MW on this computer and the internet is spotty on mine, but I'll try to download the claim there and check it out as soon as possible.

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:51 am

Okay Cath, lets take a look...

Instead of that AL_Road texture you have upto that cavern, I suggest change it to a texture called "MA_Crackedearth", Its a bit more general used MA/Ash sorta regions and it blends in a fair bit better. Also keep in mine BC said about the width, one space width should be plenty.

Also, Im not a fan of the idea of using RM rocks, and This claim is looking pretty good Cath, so I would really advise against using RM rocks.

Eitherway this is a nice solid start.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:02 am

RM rocks would add a lot of much needed variety to the hills, which at present use the exact same MA rock over and over and over again. They would also create a more 'mountainous' look, which I think would be cool. They are certainly not going to make anything look worse.

Haplo, yeah I might make an Exteriors showcase at some point. But, y'know, time is limited.

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:47 pm

I took on some advice from BC, made a few modifications and additions, and I think now that this is finished. Send to reviewing and suchlike.

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:33 am

Submitting to Review. Glad to see some work done Cathartis :-)

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:38 am

I'll get this done quickly after the detailing claim I'm working over now.

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:16 pm

TESAME: Clean

Fits exterior: Yes

Northmarker set: Yes
Loading errors: No

Review: A few floating boulders, texture seams, and minor aesthetic issues.

Comments Its hard to do a natural looking hell/pasture transition, but Cathartis makes a good effort. A nice little slice of igneous goodness in this claim.

Rating 8.8/10

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:55 pm

Nice claim, but shouldn't this be all ashlands?

http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/download.php?id=18085

I could fix this quickly, since I'm currently working on sorting out all the alterations that needs to be done to create the Armun ashlands.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:00 pm

Yah, the northeastern most cell should be slightly less ashlandy than the rest, but still ashlands.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:01 pm

its your call nemon - thats an approximation

if youre asking, though, theres prolly a problem

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:24 pm

It could be fixed easily, Cathartis. Are you up for it? As you see on this map:

http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/download.php?id=18085

It's entirely armun ashlands, but bordering a part of 4-45 that's not armun and therefore needs some sort of transition. I just claimed your neighbour 4-28 and will rework it entirely into ashlands but for the northern part bordering 4-45.

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:38 pm

Ok, sure I can fix this. Is the non-armun corner of the claim grazelands like my claim is currently, or some other terrain type?

Be kinda sad to see that bit of the claim go, it was my favourite part to make D:

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:42 pm

Cathartis wrote:Ok, sure I can fix this. Is the non-armun corner of the claim grazelands like my claim is currently, or some other terrain type?

Ask Haplo in 4-45, he recently claimed it

. Edit: At least the old version was GL in that corner, yes...

Cathartis wrote: Be kinda sad to see that bit of the claim go, it was my favourite part to make D:

Luckily I think there are quite a few GL-claims coming up in the near future (unless I claim them all MOAHAHAHAA)...

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:00 am

I'll keep it Grazelands.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:20 pm

Okey-dokey, this one is back in Exteriors: Claimed again... have you tried matching it with my 4-28 claim? As long as the ash match I'm happy for now...

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:24 am

Redone now, send to reviewing.

Added lots more rocks and plants and such, all cells are now over 100 refs, and matched the Grazelands/Ashlands border to match Nemon's 4-28 claim.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:32 pm

review time

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:20 pm

Approved