4-13-Hla

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:20 am

Revoked (way late) since Tyrion can't work on it at the moment.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:45 am

so just to clarify:
East border is AI
West border north of waterfall is WG and GL outside of valley
entire claim south of the waterfall is MA (minus east border)

want to get this clarified to expedite claiming.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:31 am

Thrignar Fraxix wrote:so just to clarify:
(...)
entire claim south of the waterfall is MA (minus east border)

Shouldn't that be Ashlands? Using Ash01 through 4 for textures, spiky ashlands rocks and dead trees. I know there's a mix of stuff in vanilla MW but isn't this named ashlands for a reason?

Just asking to get 100% clarification...

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:19 pm

Gads, I tend to get ground textures mixed up. You'd probably know better than I do.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:43 pm

No, wait. The Armun Ashlands doesn't reach into this claim.
No ash in my opinion

.

http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/download.php?id=18085

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:03 am

Very much no ash. This is the thirr river valley.

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:07 am

I'd like to claim this.

Going to clean up all the texture inconstancies first.

I taking alook at surrounding claims to consider what options. I'm not entirely sure about this claim, but i'll see what I can come up with, otherwise I'll change to a different claim.

Also that waterfall thing you made Haplo is fucking gorgeous! dw, I WONT DARE touch it. Actaully I thought I'd seen it before but I was thinking of a similiar thing with OM ruins that Nom made.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:31 pm

... He didn't make that... If you'd read my post after that, followed by his response...

You have seen that thing before because it is older than dirt.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:48 pm

Well, here area few things that need doing:

1) Kill the swamps. This is the Thirr River Valley, it should have green lands and plantations.

2) If there are any huts in trees or off the ground, kill them.

3) Add a road in the southern edge of your claim (traveling east-west), right about Indal'Ruhn, that dips southward at the southeast edge of your claim. This road will connect Almas Thirr to the rest of Map 4. Have you seen Nemon's exterior palette for this?

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:52 pm

To be quite honest I'm not sure if this region has been conceptualized fully yet. I "nicked" some of 4-25 while doing 4-9 in order to make the transition from WG (in 4-25) to ASH (in 4-9). That means 4-25 is WG bordering this one you're claiming. I would suggest having WG towards the 4-25 border, and creating a believable transition to that one first.

Granted, but hold your horses on the rest of the claim until the thirr region has a complete concept. In other words, focus on the western part of it first.

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:22 am

Alright well thats already cleared up alot for me then. If I cna get a copy of 4-25 I'll take a good look.

Basically my first concept of this area seems to be more like wetlands as opposed to swamps.

Lots of AI trees, with some WG trees blending in on the west side, lots of little scrubs and rock transiting between AI and WG. rocks and small shrubs along the river banks. hmmm..

If It comes out the way Im picturing it in my head, I think it will be very pretty as well as docile? (maybe not the right word). I just need to take a look at other areas/claims and look at some of the other trees and plants we have.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:30 am

The Thirr river region is home to lush plantations and flora, it is a fertile river valley. The specifics are still in development though so as you have been told already, work on the western border of this claim exclusively for the time being.

As for 4-25, I told you in the 4-25 thread that you should just look at map 4.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 3:42 am

RelinQ, how proficient are you in English?

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:43 am

Haplo wrote:1) Kill the swamps. This is the Thirr River Valley, it should have green lands and plantations.

Please for the love of god follow instructions.

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:19 pm

what I said in my last post was a Concept, not an implementation.

Anyway an Update:

- Ive added some of that Path Thrig mentioned.
- I've started on a transition between the WG region.
- Tided up the west side alot, planning to reshade most of that side as well.

Issues:

Okay I have a 2 major issues with this claim so far:

1. The Mountains on the west side are incredibly high compared to what they border with on 4-25. Now I can partially lower this west side, but its still too darn high. there is over a 3000 Z-unit drop between this mountain and whats on 4-25.

To understand better, Here is a comparison of the heights picture and a couple of screenshots:
[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/Relinquished_kaos/WG-heightComparrison.jpg[/url]

[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/Relinquished_kaos/wg-borderdrop2.jpg[/url]
[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/Relinquished_kaos/wgborderdrop1.jpg[/url]

Hopeully you can now see what I mean; now I can somewhat smooth this down and use cliff pieces, which is ideal, but I still think the amount of height here is an issue.
(I'm wondering whether I should have some of the 4-25 claim included into this one just to fix the borders)

As for the 2nd issue, well we still need to work out this THV (Thirr River Valley) Region. Although this is not as critical atm.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:42 pm

Just use the cliff meshes and make a nice transition. Should work...

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:45 pm

don't even conceptualize for the Thirr River region. You are not party to the relevant discussions so you will wait until we report to you.

Use cliffs when near the waterfall thing, otherwise... welcome to exterior modding! Just be glad you didn't have to raise the entire claim from the seafloor like the modders of yore.

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:45 am

Alright I'll use cliffs as a start and see how that goes.

haha yeah, fair point there Thrig, I know what thats like.
Before I came to TR, I did infact raise an island the size of Solstheim, funny enough I wrote a tutorial on it as well.

, took years though D: (literally)

Back to the claim, I'll smooth it down where I can and try to create a fairly aggregate cliff face. Because of the height I'd prefer to make the 3000ft (ft?) drop a believable formation.

Anyway thanks you two, that gives me a bit more clarity to work with.

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:03 am

Relin which file are you using, mine or Haplo's?

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:55 pm

Your's man, its the newest.

Anyway I have added cliffs and alot of rocks down the west side border. I tested this cell with the bordering 4-25 and the cliffs look fantastic, its a huge improvment, so thats almost done there.

Should have a WIP up soon.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:38 pm

Make that WiP upload within the week, we want to check your work.

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:14 pm

Okay I have uploaded a new WiP but you can also download it just below.

Basically what Ive done is create a cliff face along the western side of the WG Mountains, these statics may go over into "wilderness" but as you can see (in the 2nd screenshot via URL) they match rather nicely with the bordering 4-25 claim.

Western Cliff Face (taken 28th of Feb)
[img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/Relinquished_kaos/WestSideCliffscopy.png[/img]

Western Cliff Face with 4-25 Merger
[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/Relinquished_kaos/CLiffs.jpg[/url]

Ive tidied up ALOT of statics around that mountainious

In addition I have shaded most of that west side cliffs and started a transition along the east side which you can see in the other 2 screenshots. I've been generally transitioning the ground from WG to AI using anywhere between 3 to 7 textures.
I havent really paid much attention to the other areas except when starting to add that path that Thrig requested. but the main reason I touched this was to improve the textures on the east side of the west mountains and to get rid of the horrid BC textures.

WG Mountain to valley transition
[img]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/Relinquished_kaos/WGMountaintransition.jpg[/img]

(ignore the trees on this 2nd picture, I was testing colour schemes)
[url]http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/Relinquished_kaos/WGTransitionriver.jpg[/url]

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:09 pm

I had a look in the CS, and it looked like a decent transition, although I have to delete some cells from the map 4 esp and load them up together. Will do later!

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:00 am

Thanks Nemon.

I've only really textured the ground so far but I'm hoping to improve alot on the terrain and shading when the region has been more specified.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:02 am

Please upload latest WIP so this can be revoked due to your recent granted RR claim...

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:28 am

I've only just managed to get near my laptop so I'll make this quick. Im currently Out of the city for Corporate ITIL training until the rest of this week, can you please give me until Saturday to upload this?

I've done some solid work on paths and rivers as well, so its worth the wait. If I have any spare time, I'll see if I can upload it sooner.

Cheers, Relinq.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:09 pm

RelinQ wrote:I've done some solid work on paths and rivers as well, so its worth the wait. If I have any spare time, I'll see if I can upload it sooner.

Jesus christ man, if I let my palm connect with my face with as much force as would naturally occur from reading that statement, I would be dead from a fractured skull. I somehow knew you would edit more of this claim than you were supposed to. I was actually hoping you didn't all this time, when you were giving all indications that you hadn't edited the area, and had no plans to do so. When I heard this was going to be revoked so you could take 4-3, I was surprised because it would mean that you seemingly followed instructions for the entire time you had the claim. But no, my hopes were unfounded and my fears were correct.

I'm going to go discuss this with the other people with titles, expect a response soon.

tl;dr: You are incompetent* expect some sort of disciplinary action.

*Anyone who gets this reference gets a gold star for the day

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:27 pm

Maybe this one:
http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=11729&start=80
Search for the post of 19/02/2010 or 02/19 from TF.
What is a gold star for the day?

Praedator · Post by **Praedator** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:00 pm

I am always in for a lovely present; wow a Gold Star

But not because I am incompetent of course

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:18 pm

Just upload whatever you got, RelinQ, and remember to heed the words of moderators and administrators when doing the RR-claim...

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:52 pm

Gold star is something that kids get in elementary school when they do a good job, used here it means that someone getting the reference would be cool, but I am not really going to give any substantive reward.

As for the reference, I have no idea what blackbird is talking about, and no praedator you don't get the gold star for being incompetent. You get the gold star for knowing what the reference is. To not clutter the thread, I will put it in small text.

First off, this image: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b94/ThrignarFraxix/BattlerIsIncompetent.png . This is from the visual novel Umineko no Naku Koro Ni. Look it up if you want more information. In the story, things said in magical red text are inarguable truths. (as far as I know) As we see in the image, the golden witch beatrice is laughing at Battler's pitiful attempts to solve the mystery of the murder that is central to the story. He is so bad at it, that she is actually able to say with red text that he is incompetent. Similarly, she laughs in red because it is an inarguable truth that she is amused by this. Please do not reply to this in this thread. I am only putting all of this here because for some reason people thought they knew what I was referencing.

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:48 am

Alright I'm back and here is my latest WIP

First of all Thrig, you need not worry, The I've only done some very minor terrain detailing around the paths (mainly the west cliff side paths) to actaully make them look like paths, it would have needed to be done at somepoint eitherway. It actaully makes the cliffs more significant looking from a distnace as well. Also I changed this about a day after I uploaded my last WIP, so It was a while ago.

Anyway as well as the WIP, I have included a new screenshot for a slight issue in the waterfall cell. There is some ferns near the inner wall that are floating.
Naturally I could smooth the wall out a little to make a slope and place the ferns on, but this cell is a very delicate little ecosystem, so whether I or anyone else fixes this, it should be done with the utmost care.

Saying that, I have tried but it fairly time consuming as its quite easy to shift the walls inwards =/, So I've left it as it previous was.

[url=http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/Relinquished_kaos/Morrowind/Floatingfernsinwaterfall.jpg?t=1270991110]Floating Ferns in waterfall cell[/url]

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:05 am

Okay, as we agreed: Revoked! Have fun (incl blood, sweat&tears) in your other claim.

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:17 am

You mean utmost care, surely?

Also, that near-vertical bit of ground texture looks really stretched. I'm going to give my near-universal suggestion of "needs more rocks".

Andres Indoril · Post by **Andres Indoril** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:19 am

I wonder if those interior ground tiles would work for that as well...

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:53 pm

I claim this in order to make the Thirr region proceed from the concept stage.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:56 pm

Stuff done. Things added.
Basically the new WIP is a rough look at how I see this region. Rich dense flora, rivers, tributaries and farms.

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:19 am

We'll this definetly looks like your work Nemon, always a pleasure too see what you've come up with. It looks like a really solid start.

I have to say I like the Hlaalu towers on the riverline with the shrouded trees, very nice.

In regards to the fields:
Will it be a general allocation of plant containers? or are we expecting to see a more realistic field with mass clomping of plant containers?

Thought I'd ask since the area is so "lush and healthy" .

EDIT:

Also apparently its your birthday? well if it is, Happy Birthday!

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:12 pm

RelinQ wrote: In regards to the fields:
Will it be a general allocation of plant containers? or are we expecting to see a more realistic field with mass clomping of plant containers?

Thought I'd ask since the area is so "lush and healthy" .

EDIT:

Also apparently its your birthday? well if it is, Happy Birthday!

Probably going with the solution I have on the little island, otherwise it's too much loot.

And yes, 29 years old

.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:25 pm

[url=http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4953/morrowind20100425232103.jpg][img]http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4953/morrowind20100425232103.th.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5756/morrowind20100425231757.jpg][img]http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5756/morrowind20100425231757.th.jpg[/img][/url]

New screens up, the main plantation detailed, added a lot of trees and flora here and there.