5-3-Red

Post by **Haplo** » Sat May 14, 2005 8:15 pm

Claim type: Exterior
Claim ID: TR_5-3-Red (#170)
Faction: Redoran
Claimed by: Nemon
Status: Approved (Progress: 100%)
Location: (-24,3):(-22,1), Size: 9
Files: TR_5-3-Red_Haplo_1.esp

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A little Velothi mountains and mostly Ash Swamp. See 5-15, 5-25 and 5-6 for VM inspiration, and the concept in 5-21 for Ash Swamp reference.

Use the heightmap provided in this thread: http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=19347

Note that cleaning irrelevant cells may create land tears, so backup your work regularly and often.

For this part of the VM region use BM statics. For AS use our new statics + static trama roots and a few RM rock types. This claim includes a little main road from 5-23, side road from 5-2 and two rivers starting in this very claim, running into 5-27 and 5-21.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:45 pm

See this picture for regional borders, roads and rivers.

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Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:52 pm

Unlocked, make sure you read all relevant info upon claiming.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:05 pm

Le Claim

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:26 pm

Granted with pie.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:28 pm

Incredibly preliminary file up with the bottom layer of ground textures applied and road paths included.

EDIT: Rivers are now outlined.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:16 am

Gosh, one week until one month mark. Any fun stuff happened here?

Post by **Haplo** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:13 am

Update: I haven't worked on this much; I am in the midst of final exams. Starting next week I will have much more time to work on it.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:54 am

Though this is low priority, have you got any updates?

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:45 am

Fuck, I totally forgot about this. In the interest of time I will be dropping this to shift my focus elsewhere. My posted WIP contains basically the ground + 1.5 layers of land textures.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:18 pm

This claim makes my screenshots suck. It must be done.

Why · Post by **Why** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:47 pm

Can we have an ashlander camp here, please?

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:40 pm

Why wrote:Can we have an ashlander camp here, please?

It's fine by me, anyone with opinions on this matter? Lore buffs and whatnot, have your say!

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:02 pm

It would be nice if the Ashlanders here had something prominent to do with Alandro Sul, whose ancestral clanstead really should be/is Kogotel. Perhaps the Redoran hire them as scouts or for procuring the rare ingredients of the swamp in return for allowing them access to the tomb/wraithmail of Alandro Sul?

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:57 am

Cathartis wrote:It would be nice if the Ashlanders here had something prominent to do with Alandro Sul, whose ancestral clanstead really should be/is Kogotel. Perhaps the Redoran hire them as scouts or for procuring the rare ingredients of the swamp in return for allowing them access to the tomb/wraithmail of Alandro Sul?

Good idea. And the irc vote favored a yes to an ashlander presence.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:23 am

Why would proud Ashlanders agree to that deal though? The tomb / wraithmail would be theirs by rights to access, so I do'nt think it makes a great deal of sense for them to "buy" that right.

Aeven · Post by **Aeven** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:14 pm

Ashlanders still need a way to survive. So while I agree with your logic, it would still be a good reason to have the Sul Ashlander Camp there.

Theo · Post by **Theo** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:43 pm

This tension between Ashlanders need to survive and a feel of ancient privilege to visit the tomb offers background for a nice questline.

Adanorcil · Post by **Adanorcil** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:44 pm

I strongly feel there shouldn't be any ashlanders on the mainland to begin with, but that's another discussion I won't be having here. Let's just not add any further ones.

Now about this particular camp. Leave Alandro Sul out of this. Under no circumstance should be the "Sul Camp" or anything similar. 'Sul' is a honorific, not a name. Secondly, it's wrong to think of Alandro as an ashlander, because the distinction didn't exist in his time and in fact is only relevant in the light of what Alandro came to teach them after Red Mountain.

He is most definitely not buried in Kogotel. He went into exile among the nomad tribes and died there. His Wraithmail is mostly definitely not kept there, since it was disassembled at Alandro's death and the ringlets were distributed among the tribes. In addition, the object is highly sacrilegious to the House Dunmer and is in fact as close to a heretic relic as it gets. The official story is that it doesn't even exist.

Make this tribe the ash swamp tribe. Think of them as bayou people, if you will. The ashswamp is a place where sensible, civilized Redoran don't go. They trade some of the rarer objects from the heart of the swamp with the outside world.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:53 pm

2/9 cells pretty much done now.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:27 am

aside from all controversy, going off screens at BGSF that ashlander camp is a masterpiece of understatedly intricate exterior design. classic work Nemon!

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:57 pm

Off to review, you little bitch.

Interiors:
-24 3:
- Ashlandic camp, four tents. Adanorcil had a few ideas regarding this.
- Cave, maybe related to the camp?

-23 3:
- Velothi tomb
- Shack, random fellow

-23 2:
- Double cave, two entrances. Bandits hang out here.

Note that there are some minor fixes needed to be done when border matching with 5-27. I will fix that in a map merge.

Post by **arvisrend** » Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:46 pm

8/7/2011 (00:45) TR_5-3-Red_Nemon_2.esp 8/3/2011 (13:10) skraeling Terrain_rocks_BM_02 TR_5-3_Red (-24,3) -192090 26266 1350 "floater"

8/7/2011 (13:12) TR_5-3-Red_Nemon_2.esp 8/3/2011 (13:10) skraeling ex_ashl_tent_01 TR_5-3_Red (-24,3) -193750 29215 1084 "What I could imagine to work very well here: a cave connecting this camp with the pine forest up the slope"

8/7/2011 (16:24) TR_5-3-Red_Nemon_2.esp 8/3/2011 (13:10) skraeling terrain_rock_rm_18 TR_5-3_Red (-22,1) -176502 15828 536 "slightly floating (look from north)"

8/7/2011 (17:34) TR_5-3-Red_Nemon_2.esp 8/3/2011 (13:10) skraeling TR_ash_swamp_tree02 TR_5-3_Red (-24,2) -194281 19389 380 "floater"

Post by **arvisrend** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:29 am

8/7/2011 (21:28) TR_5-3-Red_Nemon_2.esp 8/3/2011 (13:10) skraeling TR_ash_parasol01 TR_5-3_Red (-22,1) -175370 11905 416 "slight floater"

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:04 pm

TESAME: Clean

Fits exterior: Yes

Northmarker set: Yes
Loading errors: No

Review: Just some minor floating objects.

Comments More nice ash swamp. Loving the level of quality and detail.

Rating 9/10

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:50 pm

Approved, yay. Nemon's next approved claim will put him ahead of me on the Team page oh noes.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:19 pm

Haplo wrote:Approved, yay. Nemon's next approved claim will put him ahead of me on the Team page oh noes.

Yes. Again :p .
I already did 5-21 once, so here's to secondsies!