Map 3 NPC Claim #5 [Bloodthirsty Crustacean]

[arvisrend]

What I meant is this:

dialogue topic "help a poor Khajiit", last reply:
"Mistress Fari wanted me to send seven bottles of Sutch Wine to the cruel Charna gra-Mohl at the Windbreak Hostel. I did not notice that the bottles he put in delivery were spoiled wine! Mahhjat is scared of Charna and her nasty temper. She may even try to kill me! Please, you must help me."
The "he" in "he put in delivery" is Mistress Fari.

[Haplo]

Fixed.

[arvisrend]

Thanks for speeding this up!

I've got a more serious bug now. Sorry for not noticing it the last time.

Dialogue "spoiled wine", the penultimate answer:
"I thank you for bringing these bottles, but there are only six here. If you only found six, then I think that means that Charna had sold one bottle of the bad wine! Hurry, find out who has it and bring it to me!"

This has as conditions
Item tr_m3_q_A5_spoiledwine == 6
Item tr_potion_wine == 1
Local wine == 1

There are two things that can go wrong here. First, Item tr_potion_wine can be > 1 because Sutch Wine isn't that rare an item - the player might just randomly have one more bottle with him. Second, the player MIGHT have already stolen the seventh wine bottle from the imperial guy's table, destroying the first condition.

I think a fix would be to remove the "Item tr_potion_wine == 1" condition, as "wine == 1" already requires the player to have put 6 good Sutch Wine bottles into that crate. This would fix the first problem. For the second one, the only solution that comes into my mind would be a new reply along the lines of "wow, you are a damn good thief" (as I said, there is a reason why I am not writing dialogue) which finishes the quest.

[arvisrend]

bold=fixed
Also some stuff mostly related to Kisrashallat.

First, you don't have to get the claws out of your way in order to levitate up the shaft. You can just squeeze past them. I don't necessarily consider this bad, given how hard to find the button is (I needed the CS).

4/24/2011 (21:40) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling flora_bc_tree_05 Darnim (22,-18) 187572 -144566 897 "cloggy terrain right here"

4/24/2011 (21:57) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling in_dae_rubble_06 Kisrashallat, Entry 4255 4293 13921 "this is a hidden part of a daedric temple. please hide at least some enchanted iron dagger in here"

4/24/2011 (22:01) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling TR_m3_O_Rithnil Draras00000000 Kisrashallat, Shrine 4386 4427 11711 "please make him corpses persist"

4/24/2011 (22:04) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling in_dae_platform_512_01 Kisrashallat, Deep Chamber 4096 576 10336 "lots of z-fighting here (maybe unavoidable)"

4/24/2011 (22:04) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling in_dae_platform_512_01 Kisrashallat, Deep Chamber 2496 896 10336 "here too"

4/24/2011 (22:08) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling ex_dae_door_load_oval Wilderness (21,-20) 173239 -156604 588 "this door is slanted here, but the matching door in the interior is not slanted"

4/24/2011 (22:09) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling Ex_Vivec_waterfall_03 Kisrashallat, Sanctum 5323 3626 13887 "this vivec sewer grate and the hlormaren stuff beneath doesnt look too appropriate to me in a daedric ruin. but this is rather subjective. couldnt we replace it by daedric pillars, put horizontally?"

4/24/2011 (22:10) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling in_sewer_scorr1_00 Kisrashallat, Sanctum 6262 5144 13712 "same here"

That's all for today.

[arvisrend]

4/26/2011 (14:34) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling ex_cave_door_01 Wilderness (19,-20) 159733 -159513 1165 "this door looks different from its matching door in the interior"

4/26/2011 (14:36) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling Flora_kelp_03 Inner Sea (18,-19) 152577 -151900 -822 "floater"

4/26/2011 (14:36) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling Ex_barnacles_03 Inner Sea (18,-19) 152619 -152386 -889 "floater"

4/26/2011 (14:44) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling terrain_rock_bc_16 Wilderness (19,-19) 158354 -155462 3519 "caspers (look from west)"

4/26/2011 (14:49) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling terrain_rock_bc_16 Wilderness (23,-19) 192356 -149099 1860 "very slight caspering (look from west)"

4/26/2011 (14:54) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 4/24/2011 (21:36) skraeling chest_tomb_large01 Dundras Ancestral Tomb -4169 -1794 -745 "there could be more loot here, to justify the trap and the locked door"

[Aeven]

4/4/2012 (23:57) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 8/23/2010 (09:13) TR_m3_Deril Drevin00000000 Darnim (22,-18) 182031 -141009 268 "topic vampires has every instance of it linked to itself"

4/4/2012 (23:58) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 8/23/2010 (09:13) TR_m3_Ieva Llori00000000 Darnim (22,-18) 180933 -140554 125 "speaks of Velon's Watch. Don't think that exists anymore?"

4/5/2012 (00:00) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A5.ESP 8/23/2010 (09:13) TR_ind_guard0000002A Meralag (25,-22) 210573 -176711 334 "doesn't have any topics"

[Haplo]

Leon: for exteriors, some bleeding into the ground is okay for most things, like containers. Sometimes this can even be intentional. Bleeding into the ground on hard surfaces is generally erroneous, since it's not possible, but if it's soft ground like dirt or other terrain, it's fine, since it's impossible generally to get smooth terrain upon which to place objects.

For the second one, the only solution that comes into my mind would be a new reply along the lines of "wow, you are a damn good thief" (as I said, there is a reason why I am not writing dialogue) which finishes the quest.

arvisrend, could you add the 2nd line, with this dialogue?

"Thank you for bringing these bottles to me. I count seven, which is impressive; you managed to... obtain every bottle of wine that I requested. Yes, quite impressive."

and if that doesn't quite wrap things up nicely, feel free to add another word or sentence.

Note: I'm still working on this. Just gotta shut my computer down instead of just leaving the window open 24/7, that is all.

[arvisrend]

You mean an additional sentence to tell the player that the quest is finished to the liking of Mahhjat? I'm absolutely not good at this, particularly given that it should be Khajiitspeak. Probably tell the player that he deserved some wine himself now (some of the good sort, that is)... and that he shouldn't be telling this around.

By the way, I don't even understand this reply (same topic, but standard way to complete the quest):

You stole the last bottle? Excellent. To show my gratitude, I give you this wine. The %PCRace may keep the other bottle of Sutch Wine. Thank you.

What's the point of saying that the %PCRace may keep the spoiled wine bottle?

[Haplo]

I'm not intimately familiar with the quests of this claim so I couldn't say. I can only assume they meant to give the player another bottle of unspoiled wine.

[Haplo]

Boom.