Almalexia Pre-Release Thread

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:34 pm

Bitches you best be doin' dis shit if we ever gonna release this mofo.

Mo'Fuggin Checklist
- Finish putting up Almalexia interior claims
- Finish Almalexia interiors
- Merge and NPC Almalexia interiors
- Finish exterior Nemonification ✓
- NPCs and quests for the rest of the release
- Put enough of our Great House Indoril plans into place to allow for future questing and give a framework for future work.

Let us put this ball into a state of consistent rolling, people.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:49 pm

All right, the game is on!
I'll get right on the Nemonfication.

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:33 pm

A little early, considering some of the things on the list. I added a comma at the end of the last sentence because, you know, grammar. And also, do we want House Indoril to be joinable in the first release of Almalexia?

Why · Post by **Why** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:37 pm

I'm all for it, but I can foresee a situation where that'd delay the release and I don't think that's worth it. If Almalexia is release-ready except for a joinable House Indoril, I say we release and let the player join Indoril in 1.1

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:59 pm

I think I agree with Why that if such a feature alone delays our release date, we should wait until the first update to include that feature.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:13 am

I was not thinking we wanted a joinable house yet. I just wanted the underlying framework to be there or at least considered well enough for future quests.

Not · Post by **Not** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:39 am

Thrignar Fraxix wrote:I was not thinking we wanted a joinable house yet. I just wanted the underlying framework to be there or at least considered well enough for future quests.

I personally wouldn't want to see House Indoril as joinable till we have Heartlands out. I know that would suck, but at the very least, we'd actually have a substantial amount of quests for the player to do, and they could actually do a lot in the House, instead of just join House Indoril in the Alma release and have next to nothing to do save for a few minor quests here and there which overall don't really have a huge impact on the actual story line.

On the other hand, I suppose we could also make it joinable and come up with some quests for the 1.1 release, (or as it should be called, 4.1) but again, it would still only be a handful of quests and imo not really worth it.

I'd also like to add that I wouldn't want Indoril joinable in the initial release, for the same reasons mentioned above.

SamirA · Post by **SamirA** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:41 am

I'll have another int batch up tomorrow along with a new map or two in the one cell only style.

EDIT: By up, I mean in N/A just in case we have issues with any ideas. Most of this next batch has been discussed already.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:22 am

SamirA, as posted in the M3A6 thread, I need the Almalexia file now. Do you have a version I can work from?

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:54 pm

Not wrote:
Thrignar Fraxix wrote:I was not thinking we wanted a joinable house yet. I just wanted the underlying framework to be there or at least considered well enough for future quests.
I personally wouldn't want to see House Indoril as joinable till we have Heartlands out. I know that would suck, but at the very least, we'd actually have a substantial amount of quests for the player to do, and they could actually do a lot in the House, instead of just join House Indoril in the Alma release and have next to nothing to do save for a few minor quests here and there which overall don't really have a huge impact on the actual story line.

On the other hand, I suppose we could also make it joinable and come up with some quests for the 1.1 release, (or as it should be called, 4.1) but again, it would still only be a handful of quests and imo not really worth it.

I'd also like to add that I wouldn't want Indoril joinable in the initial release, for the same reasons mentioned above.

Is there a specific reason you chose Heartland? It's my understanding that Great House Indoril holdings are in Almalexia and Sacred East, and there won't be much cause for quest-related venturing outside of those two areas. The vast majority of Indoril quests would take place within Indoril lands, would they not?

Post by **arvisrend** » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:46 pm

I too am against setting any goals that involve House Indoril quests, unless we are deliberately making a too-long list of goals in the knowledge that we will only achieve some of them (I know there are people for whom this strategy works). Through all my time on #tamriel I don't recall hearing even one Indoril quest idea, so we'll have to work from a completely empty sheet here, and this is going to take resources away from Almalexia questing (which, alas, also hasn't gone very far, even in design). Of course, it is possible that we will have come up with a couple quest ideas by the time of release, but that doesn't mean we should implement them in the 1.0 (yes, Notling, 4.0 would be better indeed). They might become a thorn in our side later when we are designing the rest of the questline (like the Temple questline in Ranyon-Ruhn, which is nice per se, but noone seems to have an idea how to give it a reasonable closure).

Faction questlines should be done when enough good ideas and a good overarching design are present; there is no urgency.

Incidentally, am I being too lazy if I say that I need some kind of Who's-Who-and-Where's-What guide to Almalexia before I can come up with reasonable quest ideas? I assume I could get a good impression of the town by reading through the threads and loading the claims, but if there is a faster way to get the relevant info, I'd very much prefer it. At this moment, there are only two quests I have in mind for Almalexia. One is the one I brought up on #tamriel long ago, in which a noble asks (pays) you to sneak into another noble's mansion to stamp a forged letter with the latter noble's seal. Another is from not mine but actually [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=12802&highlight=gambler]a quest suggestion from 2005[/url] to which I would make some minor modifications. We might want to open a FCG (FQG?) for questing Almalexia, but I guess a good start would be to have an accessible overview over the city.

Not · Post by **Not** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:03 am

I'll post something tomorrow when I'm in the right mindset

SamirA · Post by **SamirA** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:19 am

I haven't touched anything in the file Nemon. It is all yours.

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:14 pm

arvisrend wrote: Incidentally, am I being too lazy if I say that I need some kind of Who's-Who-and-Where's-What guide to Almalexia before I can come up with reasonable quest ideas?

Not at all. We already have something of this kind but we do need one for each release, which covers locations, factions, etc.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:23 pm

Exterior Nemonification done

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Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:07 pm

Should we not be done putting up Almalexia int claims now? Snowball, momentum and all that jazz.

Why · Post by **Why** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:22 pm

It's of little use to put up more claims while there are still so many in unclaimed.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:00 pm

holding back interior claims because others need to be finished may keep the focus on the available ones, but people tend not to do things they don't want to do. If there are new almalexia ints to put up then they should go up. Greater options inspire action and maybe someone will finish one and decide to do one of the other claims.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:54 pm

I agree, we should have all our claims up as soon as possible rather than available in chunks.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:38 pm

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75536686/Almalexia.mp4 (uploading now)

Just made this for fun, perhaps something we could post on the youtube-channel?

SamirA · Post by **SamirA** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:52 pm

I'll put some more up then, but that doesn't help the ones which aren't being done. I'll put up the other few that have been discussed tomorrow as I am free all day and then I will start discussion for the next set and finish making the maps for the single cell style to get the ball rolling.

I am of the same mind as Why, but it can't hurt to have more options and at least get something being done I agree.

SamirA · Post by **SamirA** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:42 am

Just a note, while no new ints went up today I did make the majority of the remaining local maps. I am having an issue with imgur loading so I can't see where I left off to put up new ints. I'm going to try and sort it out tomorrow and get something up.

Not · Post by **Not** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:10 pm

Out of sheer curiosity; in the history of TR, has the int department ever been this slow?

(I mean with people not claiming/finishing ints.)

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:20 am

A few times, actually. We don't keep a record of that sort of thing, but yes.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Tue May 28, 2013 10:22 am

Boom, we seem to get a ton of interior modders these days, do we have any plans for getting them to settle in properly? Clean sheets, enough beverages??

I try keeping in frequent contact when I, once every decennium, get a new ext modder - at least during the early stages of their stay here. Getting people on irc and not weirding them out in a bad way is also good, amirite? Are all alma claims coming up? When? Is this another question mark?

lyk dis if u cry evertim

Not · Post by **Not** » Tue May 28, 2013 1:13 pm

Actually, I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and I've been wondering how to get the interior department back on track.

Nemon, I really like your idea about talking to the modders and getting to know them, as well as encouraging them to go on IRC. So with all the showcases passing review and being promoted, I think I'll start trying that, see if it works. Try to get others into IRC more.

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Tue May 28, 2013 4:46 pm

Suggesting it during the showcase process isn't bad, either. I know being on IRC with a modder more experienced than I has definitely helped me learn faster. Perhaps a post about it in the showcase forum would help bring attention to it for aspiring modders? I'm not sure everyone notices the "TR Chat" button up top.

In the next few weeks, I should be getting more of the Alma claims up. Notling and I have been working on getting everything in order, so hopefully a boom in choices will help the modders be more creative.

I'll sit down with it on my days off next week, since I'm out of town in the next few days,

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Wed May 29, 2013 7:40 am

SamirA detailed three alma ints and wrote "unlocked for claiming" back in December. They are still in N/A, any reason for this?

Not · Post by **Not** » Wed May 29, 2013 9:30 am

I have no clue!

But I think Stryker took care of that? I don't know, I'm far behind with all this stuff lol.

SamirA · Post by **SamirA** » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:12 pm

Nemon wrote:SamirA detailed three alma ints and wrote "unlocked for claiming" back in December. They are still in N/A, any reason for this?

People complained about their usage and wanted something else to fill them. I asked for suggestions each time I posted a new batch of ints but nobody ever gave me any so they have remained in N/A.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:49 pm

Why is this in admin when it would work much better in halfway?

Adanorcil · Post by **Adanorcil** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:14 pm

What TF said.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:32 pm

If no one objects to a move then I will do it tomorrow

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:08 am

Move move move.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:00 am

Moved. Hey look halfway peeps, a new topic!

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:50 am

Look how little we have done! D:

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:01 pm

As I understand, this area has now been split? Othrensis into a separate file?

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:56 am

No; we're holding off on it for the present.

arvisrend wrote:Yeti: the NPCing claim? Is Othrensis ripe for this? IMHO splitting M3A6 into two now would deprive us of the possibility to fix some terrain between Othrensis and Alma any time soon (without extra troubles), so maybe it wouldn't hurt to get this through Nemon first.

Aeven wrote:By the way, A3 and A6W need matching. Not sure what a good time for this would be, but it needs doing nonetheless.

Yeti wrote:Splitting Othrensis off for NPCing is now on hold until the exterior issues mentioned above are dealt with. I'll have to look and see if there are any other areas that could be turned into NPC claims instead.

Post by **Haplo** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:35 pm

Aeven, how many more Interior Claims do we have left to create for Almalexia?

Regarding A3 and A6, we can do that when we release Almalexia, since A6 is Almalexia, and at this rate it's planned to be its own release, right?

Aeven · Post by **Aeven** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:01 pm

In terms of new claimed (not yet fully planned in N/A) I estimate a further 30 claims.