5-13-Red

Post by **Haplo** » Sat May 14, 2005 8:15 pm

Claim type: Exterior
Claim ID: TR_5-13-Red (#180)
Faction: Redoran
Claimed by: Scamp
Status: Approved (Progress: 100%)
Location: (-32,5):(-29,3), Size: 12
Files: TR_5-13-Red_Haplo_1.esp

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The western border of Morrowind. Southwestern edge of map 5 bordering Cyrodiil. See 4-16,4-22 and 4-32 for VM inspiration for this one. The original file has nothing worth saving, please start with new file.

Please add pass, stronghold set style, as well as a Redoran village, 8-9 interiors and a temple (situated some distance from the pass. Make sure all landscape is raised high enough.

BM+snow+height.
Southern part of claim: No taller peaks than 15000 please.
Northern part of claim: No taller peaks than 15500 please.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:33 pm

As with 5-15, this claim needs to be redone. I suggest using the brilliant design from 4-16, 4-32 and 4-22 here as well.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:36 pm

Unlocked for claiming. Please submit a thorough plan for it when claiming. Since this is a mountain border claim we expect a lot in terms of landscaping.

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:01 pm

Claiming. The fort will be near the border (in light blue) while the redoran village will be further down the road (temple marked with deep blue). I'll follow claim 4-22 concept of mixing RM and snow. The black line in the image is the border between pure RM and snowish RM.

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:03 pm

We're currently deliberating on whether or not to change the Pass to a different architecture style at the moment, so please bear with us while waiting for the claim to be granted.

Also, at this point, the border mountain range needs to be BM by now. The 5-15 claim to the south is where it will transition from RM to BM.

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:35 pm

Thanks for the fast reply. I'm fine with changing the architecture so take your time. Velohi architecture would be interesting.

For the RM/BM thing the bordering claim 5-2 was mainly RM so some sort of a transition should be made.

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:44 pm

Velothi actually sounds like a very sensible idea for Dunmer mountain pass architecture, assuming something suitably awesome-looking can be conjured up.

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:46 am

Velohi would be great since its a awesome exterior set.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:24 am

Ok, granted. Make the pass with the stronghold set style. Regarding height on the landscape cells, see this : http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3321/513k.jpg

Dark blue: Between 15000-15500 for peaks, otherwise between 12000-13000.
Light blue: Between 12000-13000 for peaks, otherwise between 9000-11000.

Don't worry about border matching with 5-2 as that claim will require a huge amount of change. Border match with Scamps 5-15 as soon as possible.

Note that we aim for detailed landscapes, believable mountain areas and scenic views. Border cells must include unscalable mountains, non-border claims do not need this.

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:22 am

OK. About the regions I understand this claim will be BM only (as Haplo said above) .

Scamp · Post by **Scamp** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:14 pm

I will try to get some work done on 5-15 this week... though I guess you'll be faster. Please upload a WIP then so that I can see what you made up for the BM mountains, it offers great possibilities...

alex25 · Post by **alex25** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:55 pm

Updated.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:37 pm

Please make the three eastern cells seem a little lower, and bring the village down approx 1000-1500 height units. Also open up the pass, it's supposed to be blocked by a gate or something, but still possible to look beyond it into the other province.

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:29 am

Hey alex, this needs an update in a week.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:24 pm

Just a heads up that you need an update by tomorrow or the claim will be revoked.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:26 pm

Revoked.

Scamp · Post by **Scamp** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:11 pm

Claiming with fire!

...to properly match the border with 5-25, which is almost done.
I'd like to start from scratch here. Will be all mountainous and totally awesome, if it may.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:13 pm

Although it will probably suck totally and epicly I give you the benefit of doubt and grant it.

Scamp · Post by **Scamp** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:02 pm

[url=http://scamp.blogspot.com/2011/03/5-13.html#more]Finished[/url], uhm

Magnificent Interiors for the claim

1. Village (-29, 4)

- Manor

- House

- House

- House

- House

- Dr. House

- Guard Tower

2. Rift Pass

- Main entrance (-31, 4)

- Entrance (-31, 4) ; Whatever you want it to be, perhaps a storage?

- Shop of some sorts (-32, 4)

- Shop of some sorts (-32, 4)

- Shop of some sorts (-32, 4)

3. Wilderness

- Cave (-30, 3)

- Cave (-31, 5)

Also, screenshots:

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Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:06 pm

Review time

Aeven · Post by **Aeven** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:54 pm

ZOMG a gift to make your Imperial, Dunmer.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:18 pm

very very nice.

i think the 'disabled access' ramp out of the fort is kinda nullified by not having one out the front. So it just looks odd and ugly. to my mind such uncharacteristic (of the game) attention to 'realism' provokes more questions than it resolves in the minds of observers. but i have made this point before with other forts...

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:05 am

For reviewer: You may add the "lol you really want to stay in morrowind kthxbai"-script from the similar gate at the fort in 4-8 (it's in the latest file) on the gate leading to Skyrim. We're not supposed to open it before Scamp and Lestat has eaten all the cells in Skyrim.

Aeven · Post by **Aeven** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:43 pm

And I recommend using those pieces I made. Makes the whole much better. Awesome stuff Scamp!

Post by **Haplo** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:54 pm

Why did Aeven post meshes in this thread

Scamp · Post by **Scamp** » Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:45 pm

Because they are Stronghold-stylish versions of the Imperial Gate Frames I used for the pass because they are awesome. They shall be replaced with Dunmer versions to make it fit the whole thing better.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:24 am

So the meshes Aeven posted aren't going to be used?

Aeven · Post by **Aeven** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:37 am

Scamp IS referring to my meshes as the replacement.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:10 pm

My confusion arises from the post Scamp made explaining them, in which he used both "Stronghold-style" and "Dunmer" to describe what I now realize is the same thing, two different and separate times. I first thought he was saying that you uploaded "stronghold-style" gate retextures, but that he would instead be using "Dunmer" gate retextures at the end of the day.

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:11 pm

TESAME: Clean

Fits exterior: Yes

Northmarker set: Yes
Loading errors: No

Review: Very tidy exterior and well detailed.

Comments Creative use of the stronghold set, although I think you went a little overboard with it in some ways. Good detail, and nice, interesting terrain with things to discover tucked away.

Rating A-

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:56 am

Approved.

Post by **arvisrend** » Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:42 am

Terrain_BM_snow_07 TR_5-13-red (-31,5) -247969 45248 13111 "float"

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:32 am

Bug fixed and door added to the cave in (-31,5).