TR 4-1 Andothren Detailing Project

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:14 am

Andothren is one of my favorite cities. It is a beautifully executed concept cleverly adopting expected tropes to construct a model city. The waterfall, the temple island, the steep hills of buildings, and the Dwemer ruin overlooking it all combine to create a wonderful image of a magical merchant city.

But Andothren is sloppy and incomplete. There is a lot of really lazy bleeding, limited detailing, and shortcutting that needs to address. I'd like to finish Andothren off.

Cool?

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:03 am

Of course. Detail the shit out of that place. If need be, I can also contribute.

Post by **arvisrend** » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:08 am

Glad that someone finally cares for the map 4 bugs! Just a few technical things:

1) Is a cutout of Andothren already made? (I think it's Not who is supposed to be doing these things.)

2) Are you aware of the http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=23783 buglist? Sorry for it being such a mess :( Anyway, all bugs that are not too close to the borders of the cutout (say, just a few feet from it) are fair game (the ones near the borders are too, but they might reappear upon merge when things are bordermatched). As usual, bold them out in the posts when you fix them.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:37 am

I have downloaded the most recent file in 4-1, which seems to be identical to the data in the main Map 4 .esp, as well as all interior claims in Andothren.

Thanks for the error list.

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:39 pm

arvisrend wrote:Glad that someone finally cares for the map 4 bugs! Just a few technical things

It's not that no one cares, it's just that we are focusing on map 3 bugs before we move to map 4.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:16 pm

Some progress

-Been working on small changes to the layout. Added a third, more major gate to the west side, which just had small entrances. Added another staircase to a level adjustment that only had one path and really needed two, and moved the docks into the harbor instead of making the player walk for a cell (pictured). All of these things still need to be debugged and detailed.

-Done a lot of detailing on the east side. The strider port and the alley below it are done, added a waterfall near the entrance dropping into a water static (pictured), hung ropes across the alleys throughout the east side, redid the guildhall plaza so that it now has a big nature section in the middle, redid one of the planters so far so that it actually looks good, redid the stairs by the guildhalls so that they're a little fancier and so that that plaza isn't as sloped, probably some other things too.

-Made 3 street vendor stalls. Going to be about 8 in the city, mostly near the docks, to give it a really bustling, commercial feel appropriate to a hlaalu port city. Currently there's a butcher, a brewer, and a weaver. These will mostly not be useful shops, but at least 1 of them will sell weapons or armor.

Post by **arvisrend** » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:14 pm

Sload, can you post your working version of the file?

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:22 am

it is not ready to be merged at all.

Post by **arvisrend** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:50 am

Sload, 1) how is it going, and 2) have you pathgridded the ints already? If not, I am thinking that one you're done modifying the exts (or drop the file), I should merge it back into Heartland, fix the claim borders and cut it out again for NPCing proper.

This puts 4-20 and 4-18 on hold, of course (and the 4-14 border cannot be resolved), so please answer as soon as possible.

Aeven · Post by **Aeven** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:03 am

A small note: I have put up all interiors that needed doing according to Sload's recommendations. They're in Unclaimed as of this post.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:53 am

hey ill figure this out over the next few weeks (as i have time off from work)

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:05 am

Uploading the present Andothren.

Here is the status of the exterior work.

East Side Other than some errors (most notably a missing canal piece that I somehow deleted), the east side has been detailed.

Docks: Still very incomplete. The landscaping around the straights needs to be done over a lot. I want to redo the Dwemer ruin exterior to have a more visible relationship with the city. Ideally, I would like it to include a Dwemer lighthouse.

Temple island & Main Waterfall The Temple Island needs to be redetailed completely, I replaced the dumb statue on the waterfall with a very temporary mockup of what some way of hanging a big Hlaalu banner could look like using a guard tower.

West Side: Very little work has been done on the west side. In particular, I want to closely examine and possibly rearrange the section in which buildings are very crammed together. Detailing badly needed. Don't know what to do about kingfish's waterfalls on this side, they're kinda crummy in implementation.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:41 am

new file

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:15 am

Pictures showing the main things that I think the exterior still needs done.

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:22 pm

Great work on this so far Sload. I especially like your new docks compared to the old ones.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:58 pm

here is the most recent andothren file

Post by **arvisrend** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:14 pm

Cleaned version. (Will soon be merged.)

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:41 am

Can we move this to the archives yet? I assume we have long since merged this file into the Andothren-Thirr Section Files, right?

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:14 am

I believe so, arvisrend can confirm 100%.

Post by **Gnomey** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:53 pm

I've finally relocated this thread and moved it here. Take a glance at Sload's to-do list from Jan 05. I think all of the above still needs to be done, (except for the redo landscaping bit), and would like to do some of the simpler stuff as Andothren has become an itch I must scratch. I plan to upload a new South-AT file as well to show that I'm not neglecting that either.

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:46 am

Cool. Thanks for all the hard work, Gnomey.